Thursday, April 23, 2009

US Constitution Says A People's Grand Jury Can Subpoena Obama's Birth Records, According to Grand Jury Organizers

Thursday April 23, 2009, 9pm ET, 8pm CT, 7pm MT, 6pm PT



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Citizen's Grand Jury Rights and Abilities Discussion
  • Carl Swensson of riseupforamerica.com explains how a Georgia Grand Jury indicted Obama.
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US Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia ruled: "In fact, the whole theory of its function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people."

Judges and Prosecutors are violating Our Constitution, according to Mark McGrew. Listen to the discussion via the above widget, or at: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Sentinel_Radio

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

Maybe on this show we can find out just who will arrest the usurper after enough of these GJ's issue indictments against him.That is never discussed on the shows or blogs.Thank you.

Anonymous said...

I'll have to catch the rebroadcast later tonight.But please ask someone if they have an idea or opinion on what can be done if the indictments are ignored for months on end.Who will be the enforcers of the rulings by these grand juries?Is there a plan to move foreward after a few dozen indictments or to have them for four years hoping something will be done by our government or military before martial law is imposed on us?

Anonymous said...

Gee, one mans synopsis or the Supreme Courts opinion on his BC. You lost, get over it. Name the last president who showed you his BC. While you are thinking about it, don't talk until you come up with one. Duh, people! You do realize that this all started over a SPOOF blog post by a republican tired of other republicans questioning john mccains citizenship right? In other words, there was NEVER a valid question about it. Do yourselves a favor and read something besides conspiracy theory silliness and far right wing slander and actually trace the roots of this "accusation" back to its begginning!

Anonymous said...

It's not about the BC,but about NBC status.

Arlen Williams said...

I'll leave the third comment there, because it is exemplary in its baselessness.

Anonymous said...

Yep.ACORN members and Barry wrshipers never give up.They are wasting their time here.Herr Viktor gave up,but these frightened Barry lovers feel it necessary to beg patriots to give up the cause of defending the constitution.

Anonymous said...

Going for the birth records would be added information to indict the usurper.I'm sure the lawyers for the usurper would delay that one for a long time.We know from his own words that he is not an nbc.So the indictments are going to be multiplying with each grand jury.Still,there hasn't been any talk about the execution of the indictments,It is not going to come from anyone in our government.

Anonymous said...

Well,it all sounds logical and the discussion was good from a common sense viewpoint.But the system we are under does not operate the way it is being expressed.It was said in the show that the burden of proof is on Obama,but we know that is simply untrue.Unfair as it is,with all the appointed and elected officials being informed of the facts,and law enforcement agencies notified of the false stements and fraud perpetrated by Obama,not one investigation has taken place.Not one case has been heard on the merits.And not one person in the Congress or the Senate has stood up.The talk of an enforcement arm was mentioned but spoken of in theory,and relying on the Magna Carta not the Constitution.And that if the judges ignore the indictment that SCOTUS must uphold the Constitution.If that were true,this would be over and done with.It was said that this is our last chance.No,QW in DC is the last shot at removing Obama within the rule of law.But again,with all the silence from every branch of government and our law enforcement agencies it is highly unlikely that any lawful action by the people can resolve this crisis.That's why everyone is asking how the indictments will be enforced and when the timeframe will be set for finality.We know that no amount of phone calls or petitions or voting will change the tyrannical rule in DC.We also know that free speech is all but gone here.The takeover is close and martial law is certainly going to come to America soon.So,I don't mean to belittle the Grand Jury movement,but have to say it is somewhat delusional to say that Obama will be led out of the White House in shackles by US Marshalls.The US Marshalls,CIA,FBI,NSA,and the rest of them haven't done squat,and they have the information,if not more,than we have at this time.Badmouthing Leo was the worst part of the show.He has proved his position.And it is the height of intellectual honesty and integrity to change a position when you learn more.It is not speaking out of both sides of one's mouth.Overall,the show was an emotional appeal to believe in an action that has theoretical grounds,but no legal basis to enforce the verdict.So yes,it is constitutional,but has no teeth.Getting upset over those that disagree with this movement is not going to solve the problem.Giving answers is the way to win a debate and win over people to one's cause.The articles and shows on this haven't answered the simple questions about enforcement.Maybe you can answer that one Arlen.No one person has the answer.What I'm saying is that these emotional grandstandings for justice will never make it happen.

Joe said...

Good Show

No. 1 Your show did continue on.

No. 2 obamaconsiracy.org is a known spoiler website. It puts out false information on purpose. It lures "birthers to their site and then shoots everything down. There is a list of spoiler sites somewhere.

My question is:
Are you saying that if the state officials ignore the grand jury indictment that you automatically go to the STATE Supreme Court or the US Supreme Court?

And that whichever Supreme Court it is, it must consider the indictment?

Appreciate any answer on this.

Thank you

Anonymous said...

That's the theory.Won't make it happen.Saying they must hear it doesn't make it so.

Anonymous said...

"Judges and Prosecutors are violating Our Constitution, according to Mark McGrew. "______________________________________________________________ True.But how does this differ from the rest of the lawyers and citizen's giving this information to every branch of government up to and including SCOTUS ? These indictments have no more legal basis or standing with the courts than any other cases or actions.I know it is unfair and doesn't mesh with the constitution.But alot has happened since the original one was penned.Towards the end of the show one guy went on about the war of ideals and the simpplicity of the constitution.Sadly,that person doesn't understand history or law.Opposing this movement is not being an Obama supporter.We--those that want this resolved asap and legally- understand the fatal flaws of this movement.Again.answer who enforces this indictment and many people will jump on board.But of course that was evaded right up to the end of the show.In essence...."we'll cross that bridge when we come to it".That mentality will surely give SCOTUS a few laughs as they prepare for the underground bunkers after the generated crisis.

Anonymous said...

One guy on the show said he emailed Leo.Arlen,you should email him and have him on the next show.

Joe said...

One more item..

It was not explained in the show and I can't find anything on the website about subpoena power of the Constitutional Grand Jury.

Anonymous said...

Joe, alot of this is not based on Constitutional law.They are not citing statutes and codes,which is why they should have Leo on to educate them.They are making anemotional case based on the magna carta and some con.amendments.I want Barry ousted as much as anyone else,but am not excited over this because I've studied all of these issues for years.Leo doesn't have a peasant message but he's right.There are not many options left to us if we want to work within the rule of existing law.Without giving the government an ultimatum to address this issue backed up by millions of Americans it will fail.

Anonymous said...

Also,they are going with the criminal angle,not the civil suit approach which has a DC code behind it.This will be impossible.

Anonymous said...

Also,they do not understand the huge difference between state con and the original con and how this must be done in DC.

Anonymous said...

The most important question of enforcement was answered by one guest saying he didn't deal with hypotheticals.Excuse me,but you need some lawyers in this circle.A winning lawyer deals in hypotheticals and knows answers before asking them,and plans accordingly.To say it doesn't matter if the courts act on the indictment or subpoena for records is insane.Then what? Come up with a plan off the cuff? Let it go and try to vote the bums out next election cycle? Come up with letter writing campaigns to send to traitors that will throw them in the garbage? Sorry,but this is a new version of Orly Annie--- buns blazing out in all direction in all states with hands covering eyes and earplugs firmly embedded in ears.

Anonymous said...

Where in the US Constitution does it say the people have the right to force disclosure of personal documents of another citizen ? I know that if these GJ's are going for criminal prosection they aren't focused on the nbc eligibility requirement.But going after a sitting president and demanding personal records has no legal grounds.If this isn't about POTUS ineligibility,but about his other alleged crimes,it will need some strong legal case precedents and some foundation in constitutional law.Either way,there is no enforcement behind any of the rulings.Can anyone cite some laws,codes,and cases that support this?

Aristotle The Hun said...

Joe<

Your answer is SCOTUS. The premise is that if the State does not comply the the next highest authroity is th SCOTUS. One would not bring an actions against a State in the State courts.

Here is the link you are looking for.

Ignore those who think that American Grand Jury is based on the Magna Carta. That was the mistake Carl made in GA.

AGJ is following Leo Donofrio's model of a Grand Jury based on the U. S. Constitution.
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/03/somethings-coming-something-big-obamas.html

Anonymous said...

If Leo says lack of eligibility is not a crime, that is odd. Lying about your eligibility is fraud. Taking money from others under false pretense is a crime. This was done across state lines, so it is a federal crime. Obama committed his crimes before being wrongly seated, and the Congress has nothing to do with this, since the illegal activity happened during campaigning before the election. The People were defrauded of a valid vote by criminal defrauding and theft on a grand scale. The evidence points to fraud, indisputable, since Obama and foreign-born president. He claimed to be eligible. He was not eligible. God bless America. Perhaps a Citizens Arrest is appropriate, to escort Obama to a court for trial.

Brian H said...

Now, if only the People's Grand Jury were an actual Grand Jury and not a counter-productive PR stunt! {Sigh}