Monday, August 3, 2009

New "Kenyan Birth Certificate," Almost Certainly a Hoax [Edit: or is it?] - Updating

I.O. will show why and relate the comments of some key people in the movement to bring Barack Obama to constitutional accountability, in the morning.

Edit 8/3, 12:48: Despite The Oddity of E.F. Lavender, etc., Sam Sewell has raised very good points (see comments).  I.O's suspension of disbelief is... creeking and groaning and striving to engage....  More in the morning....

Edit 8/3, 12:32+: A bit later (a-hem) than a morning report: Arguments against the authenticity of the Kenyan "Certified Copy of Registration of Birth," plus some counterarguments.  Numerous points are being made on the Internet, in forums and blogs.  I'll try to keep updating with the most pertinent of them.

  1. It is a 1964 document, not 1961: it would seem that this protracted certification of a certification my have been made by response to a request to the judge handling the Stanley Ann / BHO I divorce in Hawaii, in 1964.  The divorce proceeding was ostensibly filed by Stanley Ann Obama on January 20, 1964 and the custody of Barack II was finalized on March 20, 1964.  (h/t: Lame Cherry, FreeRepublic posters, Emudude, and Sam Sewell).
  2. It labels the nation, "Republic of Kenya" as of February 17th, 1964; however Kenya, which was pronounced independent on December 12, 1963 as the "Dominion of Kenya," was officially pronounced the Republic of Kenya on, ostensibly, December 12, 1964 (h/t: Harl Delos).  Everything should be researched.  For all I know, the Kenyans could have printed these forms toward the end of 1963, expecting the nation to be called "Republic of Kenya" and did not want to waste the forms. Odd things happen.
  3. The apparent registrar's name, "E.F. Lavender" coincides with a brand of soap currently being sold in Kenya, "Earth Friendly Lavender."  Counterpoint: so, what; Lavender is a common name among the British; so are names beginning in E and F.
  4. Mystery of the Two Copies, below -- There are two copies of this document which have been photographed.  One would appear to be a more tattered, potentially pre-perferated, older copy, and the other, appears to be a color photocopy of the first (see the reddish brown stane on the word "Maiden" and it's reverse stain on the part of the paper folded over it).  However, the fresher looking copy appears to have been folded with the former -- even though the folds of the apparently older copy appear much more worn.  Edit: See the commentary to this article, for a theory to solve this mystery.  Check out the apparently tattered edges and that rip at the top.  Do they look natural?
  5. Orly Taitz -- It has been mentioned that if someone were trying to discredit the constitutional accountability movement, seeking to bring Obama to justice against the "natural born Citizen" standard, then Orly Taitz would be likely to take the bait and flaunt a planted forgery, due to her faulty track record.  However, she is also very aggressive and a lightning rod for all concerned.


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21 comments:

Emudude said...

For Starters, This is not the actual Birth Certificate. It is a Certified Copy of Regestraton of Birth from Kenya stating that there is a Kenyan (British) Birth Certificate on File of Him being born in Kenya. Just like there is a Certification of Live Birth (not a Birth Certificate) stating that there is a Birth Certificate located in Hawaii for Barack Obama II. It Looks way more Official and real than the one Obama posted on his website. This is a Photograph of an Actual Document from 1964. More than likely this was made for the Divorce Document for Obama Sr and Stanley Ann Dunham. Personally, I think its Real. Obama has never shown that he Supports America. He refused to wear the Flag during the Campaign, Didn't put his hand on his heart during the Pledge of Allegience. He has done nothing but Bad Mouth America since he first showed up. When has this man showed ANY support for this Country. Even now he is Socializing this Country. Would an American do this????

Aristotle The Hun said...

I'm not certain yet but my hunch is it is authentic.

Here we go:

Ann filed for Divorce Jan. 20, 1964 (Inauguration Day – what are the odds?), and the date was set by the presiding judge for the trial to commence 30 days after Obama SR would have responded to his notification, sent to Cambridge, Mass (Cambridge – what are the odds? ).

Judge Samuel P. King who granted the divorce – last I heard was retired and alive (for now) in his 90s in Hawaii — MAY or MAY NOT have asked to see the Marriage Certificate. BUT, I bet Judge King asked to see Obama JR’s Birth Certificate to confirm Ann’s claims that Obama SR was in fact the father. That is “standard” policy to have a Birth Certificate in case the mother asks for child support from the father (or Welfare) later after the divorce. Judge King probably told Ann to produce a birth certificate before or at trial, which would have been sometime in mid- to late-February 1964 HAD Obama SR answered his notice that was sent to Cambridge.

When Judge King wrote the order on Jan. 23, he had his clerk notify Obama SR via what’s referred to as a “knock and nail”. That is, the postman leaves the notification on the door for (generally) 10 days and retrieves it after that time passes — signed or unsigned. That order was sent on Jan. 23 via airmail from Hawaii and was probably posted on Obama SR’s door Jan. 27-28.

Obama SR’s notification was unsigned by him and apparently IGNORED — either he didn’t want to accept it OR he was NOT at that location.

However, Judge King granted the divorce to Ann Obama (which changed back to Ann Dunham) exactly 60 days from when the original order was request by Ann by default.

NOW, my guess is that Judge King asked to see Obama JR’s Birth Certificate before he’d be willing to grant the divorce, either at trial or by default on March 20, 1964. Ann probably didn’t have the birth certificate when she filed on Jan 20. That’s when this birth certificate would have been generated — before trial for the 1964 divorce.

Important side note: the Certificate issue date of Feb 17, 1964, is JUST A FEW SHORT MONTHS AFTER KENYA BECAME INDEPENDENT on Dec. 12, 1963. TO THIS DATE, this may be the only certificate on Kenyan file today if British documents were sent to the UK for archiving leading up Kenya becoming an independent nation.

If you note the date on the Certified Copy, it was created by the Registrar in Kenya on Feb. 17, 1964. The Kenyan Birth Certificate would have been issued in the midst of the divorce — AFTER the divorce was filed by Ann in Hawaii on Jan. 20, but BEFORE the divorce was granted by Judge King on March 20.

Furthermore, it’s quite plausible that once Ann actually had this Kenyan birth certificate in her hands, and the divorce was granted on March 20, her attorney, George Kerr, counseled her on Hawaiian birth certificate “loopholes” and told her how to file for a Hawaiian “Certificate of Delayed Birth” to get Welfare or OTHER support for young Obama as a child of a non-supporting foreign national.

As Hawaiian law allows, that CODB could have been “upgraded” later to a “Certificate of Live Birth” in the 60s or 70s, which would then be a “root document” of the shorter “Certification of Live Birth” we see today presented as proof of birth from Barack Hussein Obama II.

I can’t vouch for the veracity of the Kenyan birth certificate itself, not knowing how or from whom Orly obtained the birth certificate (the chain of evidence). It may have been obtained quite surreptitiously from the only filed Kenyan birth certificate record copy requested — likely generated from the 1964 divorce.

It’s QUITE possible that all other copies of this Kenyan birth certificate may have been scrubbed from Kenyan archives, but this one may have survived in a lone Vital Statistics office somewhere in Kenya not known about until now.

HOWEVER — the dates DO “line up” for the Kenyan Birth Certificate to be REAL.

Anonymous said...

QUESTION:

What happens to Judge Sotomayor’s confirmation as Supreme Court Justice if the Constitution’s “natural born citizen” Presidential eligibility requirement is subsequently determined applicable to Barack Obama on the basis of Article 2’s exclusion of dual citizenship birth (doesn’t matter whether Obama born in Hawaii since his dad was Kenyan/British citizen at the time)? It would seem prudent, if not dereliction of Constitutional duty in not so doing, for the United States Senate to defer voting on Judge Sotomayor’s confirmation at the very least until there is determination, now imminent, on standing in Kerchner v. Congress (USDC NJ) on that precise issue (Congressional failure to take up the raised and known constitutional ineligibility question prior to declaring a Presidential winner in the vote of the electoral college). For the full Senate now to proceed to vote to confirm Judge Sotomayor (an otherwise lifetime appointment) before then, would be a knowing and very substantial exacerbation of any inherent Constitutional crisis — compounding the previous Congressional dereliction. That is, the Executive Branch, as well as conceivably all actions of a Congress under a President determined ineligible, would leave the Supreme Court as an essential unfettered remaining Branch of the Federal Government, that is unfettered so long as Mr. Obama’s nominee to the Court is not yet confirmed by the Senate.

Will not one Senator, let alone Republican Senator, raise this issue on the Senate floor? The nation is watching.

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Anonymous said...

AAAhhh.....and the play continues with the amateur investigators going over a few old posts on this subject[the 1964 divorce] from CW and elswhere,missing the larger picture,and how Intelligence operations are carried out.Looking beyond this or any forthcoming birth certificate requires looking at what has transpired between governmental agencies,all three branches of our government,and all the eligbility lawsuits,and the focus on certain individuals.Then researching any CIA,NSA,MI6 and Mossad connections.And then look at the convenient timing of all this coming down at the same time with the GJs and criminal complaints being filed as well as geoploitical events and the cabal running the show.But most people take the bait each and every time right up to the end.Gee,
I guess the defense just flubbed and defaulted by accident in the Keyes case.And our CIA and FBI are just a little slow at finding information in this high tech age.Just another coicidence the MSM is covering this and now working feverishly to belittle the NBC issue.I guess they aren't that good at that dreaded Cloward-Piven strategy any longer.

Anonymous said...

It never dawns on some people that anything can be forged,and most proplr can be bought off.Or that an authentic BC could be released to a celeb lawyer on purpose.Or that Barry was chosen for this position before his birth and has no BC,and the only record of his birth would be written in blood and kept in sacred books[for elite bloodline families],and the rest of his life a moumental fiction.Or the spiritual significance of choosing both Hawaii and Kenya as the focal points,and leaving out Papua New Guinea and Indonesia as a fringe sidebar to the story.Or the increase in racial unrest straight from the White House,and getting the birtrhers tagged as racists in the MSM.Or the fact that if anyone in the government cared there would be QW and we would get all this out in discvovery,and having SCOTUS rule to uphold the Constitution and the NBC requirement and clarify the definition.But now,this will play out with the BC as the focal point,and not by any honest judges or representatives in our government.Keep dreamimg folks.TownHall Meetings are being shut down because the elitist Reps are offended that an "unruly mob" dare ask for our will to be carried out.They have no fear,and desire the planned chaos coming.

Anonymous said...

1.The criminal complaints by military men are accusations of fraud and treason.They are criminal complaints.And they are being ignored. 2.The BC is not a POTUS eligiblity requirement.3.The most incompetent lawyer in this con.crisis is getting all the attention,and gains a default,and a few weeks later gets a Golden Willy Wonka Chocolate Baby Birth Certificate[copy or not,it does "look" legit,and warrants expert examination ordered by the court]. 3.The lawyers pushing NBC are virtually ignored and marginalized in the MSM,even though one has ADs on the NBC imposter in a major MSM newspaper. 4.Hope builds one more time in the masses at a critical time in world events,with a flu pandemic at phase 6 and an imminent financial meltdown coming.When it plays out the streets go up in flames.7.the masses are caught off guard because they think they are winning the game.Sorry,it is being controlled in an open - air Masonic theater like a a centuries old Rosicrucian play.Everyone forgets the billion dollars it took to usurp the oval office and the wholly corrupt system and players that allowed it to continue until this point in time.

Anonymous said...

The master planning in this usrpation and destruction of the USA is so complete,that otherwise intelligetn people are losing their critical thinking faculties.With this crisis going on for so many months,it should dawn on thinking people that any legitimate douments coming from honest sources would make a hundred copies and circulate tham far and wide in addition to giving them to a celebrity lawyer anonymously,and playing the od "I fear for my life" angle.Berg did his job well buring the BC distraction in the minds f the masses.This is like a high budget version of a Plains Radio Escapade.Yet,I know of only a handful of researchers that are seeing though this game.I'm sure there are more,but they are not covering this subject in great detail,so when we look at the blogosphere we are seeing a mass delusion across the board.But we have the so-called experts on all this Alinsky,and Ayers,and Coward-Piven stuff that simply have no grasp of the Global Conspiracy.I've read and listened to them for months,and they haven't a clue.And they are jumping on this Barry BC Bandwagon becsuse of that lack of knowledge.Arlen,Sam already has you doubting your gut instincts,which is telling.Too many people do not research on their own.They rely on experts.Most of us are not lawyers or experts in any field,so we are all having a problem trying to find out who this mystery man is.But,that doesn't stop a good researcher from putting the pieces of the puzzle together by looking at what is going on in government and the courts,and putting it all together with the hundreds of admissions of the Globalists of bringing in a Fascist New World Order after a major global crisis.Barry is but one piece.

Anonymous said...

Here let it be noted that Obama claims Hawaii as his birthplace, although he has never proved that. Using his claim, however, we find some very interesting numbers. We know that Satan told Almighty God in Job 1:7 that he had come from walking to and fro in the earth, and walking up and down in it. To and fro would indicate latitude, and up and down would indicate longitude. The latitude of the claimed birthplace of Obama in Hawaii is 21.6. Those three digits that make up 21.6 are significant because the number 216 is the number 6 cubed, or 6x6x6=216. Obama was born on August 4th, 1961, which is the 216th day of the year, another 666. We also know that Obama’s office in Chicago, Illinois, had an interesting zip code: 60606. In the ancient Babylonian numbering system of letters having numerical equivalents increasing by six for each letter, we find that the words “A messiah Barack” equal 666. We also know from Revelation, chapters 7 and 14, that the number 144,000 represents the people of Almighty God. It is the Antichrist that tries to divide them. If we divide the number 144,000 by 666, we find an amazing quotient of 216.216216. If we divide 144,000 by 216 we get the number 666.666666
We must also remember that Obama’s claim of birth in Hawaii is further revealing, because Hawaii is in the Pacific Ocean. The word Pacific means “peace”, and the Scripture says that the antichrist will come as a man of peace. We also know that the metaphoric meaning of the word Hawaii comes from “Ha” (breath of life), and “Wai” (fresh water). Thus, in metaphor it means “the water of life.” The extra letter “I” would then indicate, “I am the water of life.” This is a title that belongs only to the Lord Jesus and not to Barack Obama.
Obama is also connected with Kenya, which is no doubt his real place of birth. The word Kenya is actually a feminine word pronounced “Keen-ya,” and it refers in feminine usage to the “cradle of mankind” in the native Kikuyu language. The literal meaning of the word Kenya is “the abode of the gods.” Even Obama’s political roots in Illinois are significant because the word Illinois is an Algonquin word which means, “Tribe of superior men,” or In other words, the master race. There is much more that could be said!D.Meyer 2-09

Anonymous said...

Of course,the spiritual dynamic has no effect in a court of law,but to dismiss what is taking place is folly.Don Nicoloff's research is excellent and yet he is never interviewed or covered by the so-called birthers,though I've heard Sam on his show.Which is why it is odd that he is falling for this BC so easily and quickly,even if he disagrees with the conclusions Don makes..Maybe Barry was born in Kenya,but I would not get so excited until a court examines it.And I certainly have no hunches or instincts that lead me,as an historian and researcher into the NWO and the occult,to get giddy over this BC.Real or not,this fight will be lost because people have been distracted and misdirected for too long.I don't blame a guy like Leo for giving up until urged to keep blogging for the histrical record.I'll play the fool as well for telling the truth.Doom and gloomer as I'm known here.The truth hurts.This is bigger than just fighting against a few Marxists in DC.And regardless of where Barry was born the Hawaii and Kenyan angle has been a thesis and antithesis for people to play off of while the synthesis is about to become known to us.

Anonymous said...

You can find the story in the open thread.I knew Orly would get the BC and it would play out in the heelish courts.I didn't know how she would get it,or what it would say,but I knew she was the lawyer picked and Fiddler Farah did his job quite well in all this.That's not to say they are agents provacateurs,but rather useful idiots that have ignored sage advice over the months.I feel sorry for Mario.He is a good lawyer,but he'll never be allowed to follow through.He has more hurdles to overcome than just the "standing" one.But for show,he might get the standing and a scheduled court date for the next stage.

Harl Delos said...

I find it really interesting that a form saying "Republic of Kenya" was used TEN MONTHS before that became the new name of the "Dominion of Kenya".

That's the equivalent of finding a US dollar bill dated 1603, or a marriage license for Mary and Joseph, dated 1 BC.

Arlen Williams said...

Harl Delos, thank you.

Anonymous, thank you for your musings, however I.O. has specifically stated that facts and first person testimonies indicate that Barack Obama is a part of a globalist movement seeking centralized control of society.

Leo the Lawyer said...

Berg, Apuzzo & Donofrio are all competent, knowledgeable lawyers. As I said months ago when the time is right, the right case will be heard by the Just Justices of SCOTUS but it will NOT be a case brought by the "Queen Bee."

Do you really think SCOTUS would hear one of her cases after she accused all of the Supremes of having committed "Felonies?"

http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/02/few-good-men-by-ea-leo.html

Anonymous said...

I believe the "tattered" image has been faked. I layered the two images in photoshop and they match up EXACTLY. It was taken from precisely the same angle, with precisely the same light and shadows on the folds.There are even small tears at some of the fold-junctions that match precisely on both. The background of the tattered one is solid black. I think someone took the original and used a photo-editing program to make the ragged edge - and the tear at the top, gave it a yellowed tint and increased the contrast. The photographs themselves are definitely the same, though.

Anonymous said...

Who is this Sam Sewell you mention?

Arlen Williams said...

Thank you Anonymous, two posts up. That seems as plausible an explanation of the near-identicle documents, near-identicle photos mystery as any.

As for Sam Sewell, Anonymous one post up, you can just click on his name in the article.

Pagina sobre el padre von Wernich said...

http://geography.howstuffworks.com/africa/geography-of-kenya.htm/printable

Under the constitution of 1963, Kenya is a republic.

http://www.mapsofworld.com/kenya/government/constitution.html

The Constitution of Kenya was formed on 12th Dec 1963.

Igor said...

Old Russian saying...You can tell same lie 1000 time but not change truth!

Difference between USSR Communist media and USA "mainstream media"

In Russia government make media say what they want - even if lie.
In USA "mainstream media" try make government what they want - even if lie..
.....eventually they become same thing?!

I Igor produce Obama Birth Certificate at www.igormaro.org

Somehow this does not contradict the recent Obama birth certificate from Kenya

Theway2k said...

Here is an angle to investigate concerning Kenya becoming a Republic.

Britain put Kenya on a transition track between 1960 - 1963. There is a huge chance that some public works and offices were already using "Republic of Kenya" before formal independence was acquired.

Anonymous said...

To Mr Arlen Williams:

The one with the black background and "tear" does not even belong here.

It was a quickie early morning edit I did simply to improve readability for others who could not discern the typewriter fonts.

PLEASE remove it.

It is NOT "another" version of *anything*.
Simply a sloppy job of image enhancement for the those with less than acute vision.

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

To Mr Arlen Williams:

URGENT!!!!

The one with the black background and "tear" does not even belong here.

It was a quickie early morning edit I did simply to improve readability for others who could not discern the typewriter fonts.

PLEASE remove it.

It is NOT "another" version of *anything*.
Simply a sloppy job of image enhancement for the those with less than acute vision.

Thank you.

Could someone here please contact Mr Williams and alert him to this post?

Thank you!