Saturday, April 11, 2009

Open Thread for [More] Comments Not on the Topic of Other Posts

Original posting, 1/26 -- Comments that have taken some time to write have been attached to articles on other subjects, today. I appreciate comments, but am going to delete those new ones, so any discussion of the topics of articles may be unencumbered. If you would like to express some "open line" styled comments, please use this posting. If you wish to comment privately, please use the email address posted in the "About I.O." segment of the sidebar. Thank you. Looking for another way here, soon, for receiving private notes.

Update/Repost, Tuesday, 2/3 -- This commentary thread has become a largely well behaved set of concerns and complaints about the behavior of certain of those whom have become well known within the circles of Obama eligibility activists. I.O. has had very little to do, at this point, to moderate those posts and this speaks highly of the patriots who believe it important to log their concerns.

Today, sadly, it also becomes appropriate to link to a letter of warning of lawsuit, with a demand to cease and desist, by the attorney of one eligibility activist party, to another, regarding the purported libel of that latter party. Notice was emailed to I.O. by the former party, requesting that I post an adjoining note, which is included by me in the comments, below (February 3, 2009 6:46 AM). Making note of this is warranted, in this writer's opinion. Dwelling upon it is not suggested.

I did choose to dwell upon today's emails between Nancy and Hanen, which I am also copying into comments. Finding people who have found themselves in abusive situations and have not only "escaped," but have come out better, somehow -- refined by trial and enabled by forgiveness to truly overcome -- free to be gracious to all, and built-up in soul to bless others who can use a hand and a touch -- that is inspiring. And that is likely my final word, in this top posting.





Update/Repost, Saturday, 4/11 -- Woops, here's this post again! I've bumped this to the I.O. top because certain comments angel(s) have been continuing to post here, quite polite not to change the subject, elsewhere. So (a-hem) I am eager to have a look in, since February! How about you? Then, maybe on Marxist May Day, we should have a new "Open Thread" post, to celebrate the Obama achievement! -- and let anyone say what's on his mind, unselfconsciously. The Lord only knows what will break between now and then, though....



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Arlen Williams said...

Below are two separate comments from that I thought in time to save from another thread:

Arlen,in case Ed's post is deleted,here's what he says about you: Ed Hale--" Another OOBT exposed "

"As you read this email, most everything this man says is a lie. He has no proof but trying to discredit me because I am about to expose his boss, Obama, to be a fruad. This man is nothing less than a scum bucket and I darn him to call me on the air and make this claims. He is so full of shit that he is now a like his boss, a walking eagle." Arlen,after Ed dissed Pidgeon he got alot of flack from his supporters,and the post was deleted.He throws any honest criticism down the Orwellian memory hole.Sounds like Orly is sticking up for Ed.But I hope Pidgeon is more prudent. Also,Alan Stang said he spoke to Ron Paul this past weekend.Ron said: 1.he knows Barry is ineligble to be POTUS.2.nothing will be done in the courts,as he has the backing of the elitists.3.he's sticking to his Fed Reserve battle. I knew it all along.Everyone knows Barry is a fraud,and those in elected office are traitors,regardless of their patriotic rhetoric.
January 26, 2009 2:09 PM

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Anonymous said...

If you speak with Orly,tell her the end does not justify the means.Yes,the listeners of Plains Radio are patriots.But Ed does far more than making little mistakes.He shoots off his mouth daily,and turns on people once per week,confusing people.I've left enough posts and emails to Orly telling her to stay away from Ed.And to go with shows on RBN or Microeffect or American Voice Radio to garner support.I've also explained to her about the dead end approaches being taken due to a lack of understanding the Adm.State that was erected long ago,that makes it impossible to find a remedy or redress of grievances for "we the people" unless understanding the duality of our form of government.No matter how perfect a case is it will be denied,unless approached from the proper angle which throws the ball back into the court--literally and figuratively-forcing them to admit we are no longer under the US Constitution.
January 26, 2009 2:34 PM

Anonymous said...

Great idea.I usually stay on topic,but had to comment on the reprehensible behavior of Ed [Ed dun made a mistake again.forgive me] Hale.I've also posted on the Marxist ploys of people like Victor,and his using the art of pilpul to distract and misdrect people through circular reasoning.I'll use this thread to post things that are off-topic...... messenger

Arlen Williams said...

Thanks for posting. Regrettably, I deleted a couple commentary posts before creating this.

Anonymous said...

Okay.Doesn't matter.New readers means we must repeat ourselves ad mauseum anyhow.Hope you call in show tonight. messenger

Anonymous said...

"nauseum". By the way,eventually everyone will see how corrupt our system has become as well as our Pravda-like MSM,and will start listening to alternative views before the boot stomps down,and things get ugly.This jbjd guty and Apuzzo think they have things locked up tight,but the sad fact is that the condescension of the "people" by our traitorous leaders has shown discerning individuals that this has nothing to do with legal technicalities or standing issues.Nicoloff and a few other researchers do have hard evidence of Barry being a Usurper.But no cases make it to the point of looking at the evidence on merits.The Globalists are moving quickly to destroy the USA as to evade the Usurper issue.A false flag or legitimate crisis will make this a non-issue by tossing patriots in jail.

Anonymous said...

Found this today.

P. 3259 of 3299
KENYAN NATIONAL ASSEMBLY
OFFICIAL REPORT
Wednesday, 5th November, 2008
The House met at 9.00 a.m.
[Mr. Deputy Speaker in the Chair]
PRAYERS

P. 3275 of 3299
POINT OF ORDER
HOUSE SHOULD ADJOURN TO DISCUSS
ELECTION OF MR. BARRACK OBAMA
Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.
(Applause)
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour. I, therefore, seek leave of the House that we adjourn to discuss the issue.

P. 3276 of 3299
Mr. Affey: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. While I appreciate your ruling, I also wish to seek the indulgence of the Chair. Given the mood in the country, this morning, quite a number of us failed to ask our Questions because of the excitement in the country. For the first time, we have a leader of a great country in this world whose blood is Kenyan. For that matter, would I be in order to request you to allow me to ask my Question since I did not ask it in the morning.

P. 3277 of 3299
The Vice-President and Minister for Home Affairs (Mr. Musyoka): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, while thanking you for that Communication from the Chair, I want to join the rest of the world and, indeed, all of us - and it is understandable that the rest of African Continent and the whole world is celebrating a dawn of a new era--- As we congratulate the American people and more, specifically, Senator Barrack Obama who is now President-elect, it is important to reflect on the journey that he has traveled so far. When countries get their foreign policy right, a lot of hope can ensue. What I have in mind is the famous Kennedy airlifts of the 1960s when many Kenyans were, due the friendship with the then Government
and the late Tom Joseph Mboya, given the opportunity to travel to the United States of America as a result of [The Vice-President and Minister for Home Affairs] which we now have an African American of Kenyan origin being President-elect.

"son of the soil of this country"
"whose blood is Kenyan"
"we now have an African American of Kenyan origin being President-elect"

First Grandma Sarah,
then Ambassador Ogengo,
Now the Kenyan National Assembly


http://www.scribd.com/doc/9606845/Kenyan-National-Assembly-Wednesday-5th-November-2008-51108A

Zapem said...

Arlen, your only mistake here is sharing any of it with Orly Taitz. She's known to post every e-mail she receives on her blog and doesn't blink an eye about posting anyone's personal information. She should know better. She's supposed to be an attorney. It was completely unprofessional what she did and frankly, neither her or Ed addressed any of the evidence in those links. I'm appalled at what I found there and other places myself!

Week after week, month after month, all I've heard is "we got em" and it's all BS so everyone tunes in tomorrow for another episode of Days of Obama.

Let's see: Donofrio and Pidgeon are done with Plains Radio. I doubt you'll see Cort back either. Who's next? And ever wonder why? I know. But I don't go blogging about it like a little child whose hand got caught in the cookie jar and now has to whine and make false accusations about others.

I'm getting sick and tired of the fiasco this is turning into; all because professionals aren't being heard by the MSM and have to resort to amateur idiots who decided to make a radio show.

The evidence completely disgusts me. I don't trust any of these glory seekers anymore. I don't care what side of the fence they CLAIM to be on, they aren't professionals. They're a sinking ship I refuse to board.

Last of all, if people want to give money, find a way to give it to the person direct and stop going through radio shows that have corrupt histories. Maybe you won't have these scandals to deal with. You did it to yourselves! Stop pointing the finger to make yourselves look "genuine".

This latest episode completely disgusts me. I've had it! Please let me know who is offering the new, RESPECTABLE arrangements and I'll pass it along to Leo.

Anonymous said...

Well,tonight Ed has just called you a weasel,and challenged you to come on.Orly,will be on the 2nd gour.Ed says you are the "leak" postponing the information from London.Not sure if Steve will be on.Ed is litigating against Berg to have his license removed.I feel sorry for his listeners.Even Caren is telling him to stop trashing people.Arlen,you should write an article on that guy and post it here.Ed says that he is going to fight back.All theater to this guy.And his listeners are detracted from the truth,and spend their time defending him.Ed is not above criticism.He is always making false promises,and then retreats to lame self-castigation to get callers to praise him,and forgive him.Orly is foolish to align with this foulmouthed simpleton.Everyone is worried about credit for every little piece of evidence.

Anonymous said...

Zapem is correct.But Arlen did the right thing trying to inform people about the "We got 'em--oops we don't.Let me tell ya whut" Ed Hale.I'm surprised about Orly.I think she wants any exposure she can get,regardless of the implications.I do Hope Cort and Steve are done with Ed Hale.

Arlen Williams said...

Ed says you are the "leak" postponing the information from London.

LOL. Thanks for the big smile, anon. Not listening to Mr. Hale. I 'tuned in' to the rebroadcast last night at the request or suggestion of someone. But this may be more entertaining than Greta reporting about Blago.

Arlen Williams said...

I've been in London a couple times. If there's anything I can do, I'd be happy to visit again.

Anonymous said...

For readers,here's entire post: Ed Hale-- Another OOBT exposed

As you read this email, most everything this man says is a lie. He has no proof but trying to discredit me because I am about to expose his boss, Obama, to be a fruad. This man is nothing less than a scum bucket and I darn him to call me on the air and make this claims. He is so full of shit that he is now a like his boss, a walking eagle.

On Mon, 1/26/09, Arlen Williams wrote:

From: Arlen Williams
Subject: Ed Hale
To: "Gary Kreep"
Cc: "Orly Taitz" , "Stephen Pidgeon" , "Philip J." , "Steve Marquis" , "Phil"
Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 1:22 AM


your discretion requested


Mr. Kreep, (et. al.),

I hope this gets to you at this email address. If you do not visit it often and have another email address that others copied, know, perhaps one will forward this. I heard the plainsradio.com program, this Sunday night about another promise of having documents on Obama.

I am not on a personal campaign to denigrate Ed Hale. I want those who are key parties in attempting to bring Barack Obama under the authority of the U.S. Constitution to know about Mr. Hale, too, for the sake of the discretion so necessary, for effectiveness and honor.

The following is the brunt of an email, a copy of which I received less than a day ago, from a trusted, patriotic source. Following that are links to other attestations about Ed Hale and screen images to things he has ostensibly written, found by compatriots. They speak for themselves.

Frankly, perhaps legal authorities should be involved, before further harm is done.

May you and we be blessed to walk in the wisdom of a very intent Providence, and help to bring America to its senses.

Arlen Williams
Investigating Obama

PS: Phil, or another, perhaps there are other attorneys to whom you would like to forward this, in Indiana, Texas, etc.


We did some investigating and found that Ed Hale was involved in a money scam during the 2008 campaign. He swiped a big media name "Hillary Clinton Supporters Count Too" and claimed to be a state democratic delegate. He created a website online that the real HCSCT didn't have up yet. Then he proceeded to collect all kinds of money through PayPal. I verified it, it's true.

The legitimate HCSCT threatened to sue him and warned he was not a bonafide delegate at all, but a kook from Texas who claimed to kill two Bigfoots 30 years ago and was trying to sell the location via his "bugs" identity used on the Art Bell Show. Verified: True.

We dug up hundreds of sites he posted on to redirect people to his now-defunct Hillary site, soliciting funds. All the sites he created have been taken down without a trace and went through Homestead.com. But his PayPal remains.

He's now trying to register an organization and do the same thing with these eligibility cases. He intends to collect registration fees and collect funds for his new fight the corruption campaign, of which he delegated himself president.

He refused to provide an alternative for funds going to Stephen Pidgeon for those who were reluctant to use PayPal, including an address for Steve. We became suspect of him then and have investigated him since.

These people are being duped and scammed out of their money. He's also trying to get Cort to have you return to his show with another money-making scam that will have your name attached to it.

This is wrong. This is a scam. This man is corrupt as hell and it needs to stop.

Please do what you can to stop people from paying him anymore money. I'm sure he's pocketing a lot of it just as he did under the guise of fighting for Hillary.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6288341

http://www.latinopundit.com/2008/06/its-getting-ugly-out-there.html

http://www.ptarmigannest.net/?m=200808

http://www.ptarmigannest.net/images/edcomment.JPG

http://www.ptarmigannest.net/images/bounty.JPG

http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/2008/10/look-at-obamas-white-trash-plant.html

http://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2008/10/22/%E2%80%9Cthe-so-called-president-of-plains-raidotexas-ed-hale-now-on-api%E2%80%99s-us-lawyer-philip-berg-on-michelle-obama-tapes%E2%80%9D/#comment-1528

http://www.ourstrangeworld.net/index.php/main/article/bugs_the_bigfoot_killer_exposed/


here is Dr Orly response:



Orly Taitz DDS Esq

26302 La Paz ste 211
Mission Viejo Ca 92691

29839 S. Margarita Pkwy
Rancho Santa Margarita Ca 92688

ph. w 949-586-8110 c-949-683-5411
fax 949-586-2082

--- On Mon, 1/26/09, Orly Taitz wrote:

From: Orly Taitz
Subject: Re: Ed Hale
To: arlenwilliams@yahoo.com
Cc: "Orly Taitz"
Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 4:17 AM


Arlen
call me, let's talk. I know Ed made some assertions in regards to documents that were incorrect, however I know the following
1. I talked to Steve Pidgeon and he confirmed that he received donations from Ed Hale, Plains Radio. I believe at the time he got $7,500 and $2,500 later.
2. Ed Hale told his listeners to go directly to my site and donate directly to me. He did not ask for any money to be sent to him. Other talk show hosts: Lan Lamphere and Joe Thunder collected money, made promises, but did not forward anything to me.
3. When I came to TX to represent Jody Brockhausen, Ed made arrangements with one of his listeners, Mr. Ken Burr, that drive me to Georgetown from 12:30 at night until 4 am.
4. Several of Ed's listeners camt to the courtroom to show support and went with me to the US attorney to file a complaint about violation of Jody's civil rights.
5. There are new hosts at plains radio, that are more careful in reporting.
6. Ed has a huge following in TX, and while sometimes he makes mistakes, I have to look at the big picture. No other station has provided support for the movement. Obama is by far biggest threat to our civil rights, then mistakes made by Ed. We need to concentrate on removing BO from office ASAP, we need to keep this in mind at all times.
Orly

Orly Taitz DDS Esq

26302 La Paz ste 211
Mission Viejo Ca 92691

29839 S. Margarita Pkwy
Rancho Santa Margarita Ca 92688

ph. w 949-586-8110 c-949-683-5411
fax 949-586-2082 Arlen,you aren't missing anything.The first hour was Ed playing the victim,and getting fawning support.The second hour is Ed using a con man's method of flattering the listeners,which is also used in mind control operations.And he's throwing in the old patriotic jingoism.The focus should be on exposing Barry,and defending our God-given unalienable rights under the Constitution,not blind patriotism or worship of an abstract thing.That's what was done after 9-11 to hoodwink the masses into believing US bullets are peaceful bullets,and that war is good.Defending our borders is the mandate of the Constitution,not spreading "democracy".We are,or rather were a Constitutional Republic,not a democracy.And Ed playing Churchill everyday is sickening.He manipulated the US into WW2,and along with the Socialist FDR met with Stalin and carved up Eastern Europe for the communists at Yalta.He did give a good speech exposing the Illuminati in the early 1920s,but the elitists took him to Wallstreet when the carsh took place in 1929,and told him they planned it.He goosesteppes in line after that.Plus,he is from an elite bloodline.Sadly,most sheeple do not know true history........ messenger

Anonymous said...

Arlen,you'll have to listen to the show when archived.Orly,never came on.The gal that had the Texas case dismissed was on,and Ed had to turn that into PR,by patting himself on the back for getting a listener to drive Orly around that night.You know,Plains Radio is so important,and so on.Plus,a little on donating in the 2nd hour with the old down home talk of needs.Gee,we all don't need more than $800 per month,but if y'all want to help us out,click the button.I guess that ol' boy
Ed is in a dead heat tie with the charlatan Lan Lamphere.LOL! p.s. the jurisdiction excuse ties into the Adm.State deal.We lost our "standing" in 1946 officially,and it goes back much further in a technical sense.

Anonymous said...

Yes.Leo is still very helpful.He acknowledged the loss of common law in a comment last night.Orly is a firebrand.And both Steve's have a good sense of the corruption we are up against,and a strong Christian faith.Some other cases are interesting as well.I just hope they are reading the input from their supporters.Vieira is correct about our last line of defense being a reestablishment of the Miltias of the several states.But as for these cases,much better input would come from those scholars and researchers that understand the system we are under,so as to battle against it,to restore the Constitution,instead of believing we can litigate as if it is being respected or in effect in our land,when it clearly has not been for far too long.The truth was made crystal clear in September when the Bailout opposition was 1,000 to 1,and yet the traitors were "voted" back in.They have no fear of us.Just as the MSM is going bankrupt all over the USA,but will lie until their doors close.The Continental Congress[not the Con Con that is being pushed by Globalists] is a wonderful idea.I pray that something comes of it.

Arlen Williams said...

The flack that came up this morning gives the patriots in this current struggle to make government accountable a bad rap. Those who actually do have a bad rap need to cease and get out of the way. This is extraordinarily serious business. It is what many before us have died for.

What are we doing about it? Behaving in respectable and trustworthy ways? In all of this, there is no substitute for discernment, about what is happening among those who are in places which require responsibility and trustworthiness.

Barack Obama and any others who try to manipulate people for interests other than honest service should not be granted positions which require accountability.

America is currently reaping what foolishness too many have been sowing. Let us make sure of what we are sowing.

d said...

This is a very trying and sad time in the American history. We are up against Goliath, the Usurper. It is a huge and difficult task to take him down and clean up this country. We lack funding and leadership. However, we do have a great group of people who love this country deeply and have taken on the task themselves. However, with all the bickering and fighting within the movement, it's deflecting the attention from our goal to take down Goliath and will indoubtly steer supporters away from our cause if we do not stop the in fighting.
As we seek accountability from our corrupt Gov't, we too need to instill accountability within us.
We need to regroup. Everyone involved in this movement is scattered at different websites. Maybe Dr Orly, Berg, Steve Pidgeon, Leo and others, who want to participate, should get together and lay out a plan of action or direction to accomplish the task before us. With a well thought out plan and direction, we may then be able to attract more people to support or be involved in our movement.
What do you all think?

Carlyle said...

Arlen - I really don't know why you felt compelled to piss on Ed Hale like that. What did he ever do to you?

I listen to his show a lot and I know a lot about his finances, etc. A lot of what you wrote is indefensible rumor. Why?

Sure Ed is zaney. And yes he gets the cart before the horse a lot. And certainly when people poke him, he explodes - often in all sorts of directions. But what is the point of poking him?

God knows that this is an existential crisis. God also knows that none of you or none of us have found the magic button yet to push. So until that happens, Ed has a right to "wield a sword" and state his opinion, and undertake investigations as much as anyone else.

We need all the help we can get. Further, the upside of his "personality" is that he is enthusiastic and contagious. There should be more like him.

Perfect? no. But what's the point of spreading rumors?

Arlen Williams said...

d said... We need to regroup. Everyone involved in this movement is scattered at different websites. Maybe Dr Orly, Berg, Steve Pidgeon, Leo and others, who want to participate, should get together and lay out a plan of action or direction to accomplish the task before us. With a well thought out plan and direction, we may then be able to attract more people to support or be involved in our movement.

http://www.bartleby.com/70/3142.html#43 ?

Just kidding, d. As I see it, we are attempting to educate as many Americans who wish to look into the matter, that Barack Obama is not a natural born Citizen and therefore is an illegitimate president, that he is hiding the most valid proof of birth in America, and that he may have even revoked his American citizenship.

At the same time, there is a much bigger pool of people who are attempting to warn the Americans who have ears, that Obama is very bad for the nation.

As this occurs, there are efforts underway, to organize volunteers and to worthily apply funds. That is tricky business to assess. May factors apply and the people doing the organizing should be of excellent character, be ethical, have a strong sense of propriety, use methods that are appropriate, use discretion when discretion is called for, and be aggressive in planning, preparation, and execution. They should also defer to those who do the work, instead of lording anything over them. Proven experience in coordinating political volunteer efforts is a plus, if that experience meets sound criteria, such as the above.

Along the way, I am confident that if we pray for wisdom, use epistemological rules for understanding things and evaluating behavior, and keep looking for the most effective things to do, much good may be done.

I.O. intends to report the organizational efforts that are currently looking helpful as we see it.

As for bickering, please let me personally know if you catch me doing that, d or anyone.

Arlen Williams said...

Carlyle,

You may wish to re-read what I wrote and please do not ascribe what I did not write, to me.

Ed Hale has a track record. It is repetitive and fits a pattern. I was not spreading rumors. I was communicating problematic information to five lawyers (who should have a sense for privacy) and one colleague.

None of the material information here was private. It was on the Web. What was private was my communication asking for careful consideration and discretion (and which did not make an accusation, but cited the information from which a pattern might is easily discerned) and the communication of a colleague, which I excerpted and which was based in turn, on that person's Internet searches about Ed Hale.

Unfortunately, one lawyer decided to relay the information in one lump to Ed Hale, who in turn posted it and from what I am told, discusses it on his audiocasts.

Mr. Hale also posted the information in its entirety, including the links. Has he explained the matter of taking the name of the pro-Hillary organization and soliciting funds based upon it? That should be important, for him to do.

Ed Hale has a chance to redeem himself, at least in part, by fulfilling his Sunday night promises about the papers he cited as being in the USA and about to be revealed.

Some boys who cry wolf are sincere, others are not. We will see for ourselves, what happens next from Mr. Hale.

In the mean time, I have communicated about the dangers of irresponsibly and indiscreetly treating facts, allegations, and in Ed Hale's case something worse. That applies to Ed Hale, Orly Taitz, and everyone who communicates, including myself.

As I and d. and you have stated, we face a dire situation for America. Rules of honor, discretion, morality, and ethics must be maintained. We need to communicate about rumors, but we must communicate responsibly about them (including not to give information to Obama scrubbers, which should not be released, or to release information before it is time).

Where one is dangerously irresponsible as a matter of repetitive practice, or where another has a track record of raising funds based upon others identity, or breaking promises to those who give him money, people should take notice, throw out the bad and take on the good.

That applies to Barack Obama and government and it applies to everyone.

Barack Obama is making dishonest pronouncements and half-truths, and spelling out plans which bring America to more ruin. This, while trying to take advantage of his rhetoric and the very ruin, itself, to build his support base.

He aims to go from one destructive, deceitful measure to another, to another, in the process. He singles out Sean Hannity, then Rush Limbaugh, for triangulation points as he goes, to divide those who should be opposing him and standing up for righteousness. Generating support by means of a hate campaign against such an individual or group is a well known tactic that George Orwell warned about in 1984.

Obama takes advantage of the manipulated attention, even though he loses credibility with many, and has thus far succeeded in building his base.

We need to make sure that none of those we associate with, do the same.

Concerned said...

I was reading and just wondering we are facing the biggest constitutional crisis in our history and the attorney in charge a self proclaimed constitutional lawyer may have never had a court case before. Maybe we have all been exposed to a little too much koolaid and thats why Barack Obama is now president. We let ourselves believe who we hear on the radio and TV. Who is Orly Taitz? Go check her out for yourselves. She went to college in Jerusalem. Shes been a practicing dentist since 1989 she has two practices in million dollar neighborhoods and she got her Law Degree from a distance learning college meaning online education. No law firm the address is the same as her dental practice. I have been following this case since the beginning and we all know any tip Orly gets the world knows in record time. Which probably got a lot of things scrubbed before anyone could get to them. She has a really bad habit of posting peoples personal information on her blog which could get people hurt. I guess this is what happens when you don't vet the people who say they are working for you. We need read constitutional lawyers not people who say they are but have no experience. I think its time we find some new blood we have wasted enough time with Orly and have gotten no results. We need the big boys not a dye job dentist. Thanks for your help Orly

Carlyle said...

Thanks, Arlen - that provides some perspective. When Ed was "venting" about you the other day, I posted to him that he was way over-reacting and that I communicate a lot here and I have always found you to be level headed and professional. I also told Ed something very strongly that you touched on above - rather than reacting when poked, just "shut up and produce the goods". His latest set of promises from Sunday night will be a real litmus test for him. I hope he has not over promised.

In the meantime, I remain convinced that we all need to work together and that Ed Hale, while quirky, is a valid contributor to the cause.

And, PS - The only money I know of that has been solicited by him in the last months is directly for Steve Pidgeon and for Orly Taitz.

Anonymous said...

It has become a matter of the pot calling the kettle black. We have a Constitutional crises because Mr. Obama was not vetted correctly. Those that supported him did not a llow questions and attacked those that asked them. We were informed he was the Messiah. In return we replied they were drinking kool-aid.

Now I see the very same thing happen on various sites where groups have lined up in support of one particular lawyer or organization, or radio talk host. No one is allowed to ask questions that should be asked, without being called names, or informed of their idols heavenly qualities. Individual have been banned from web sites, simply because they asked questions that needed to be asked. It appears that there are sufficient amounts of kool-aid for everyone that wants to drink, with the only difference being the flavor.

People, this is not a popularity contest, game,or an open invite to form and/or join a fan club. This is not a partisan issue. The behavior displayed, by many, makes it impossible to have a united front and acquire the numbers needed to prevail in this matter. There is a splintering of groups with each following their particular idol, or agenda. Silly me, I thought this was about our country and our Constitution. This piece of paper which,in essence, states the rules the politicians have to follow.

I have had the opportunity to review the work done by Orly Taitz as well as her donate button for her own new "foundation." If you wish to attack me for this go at it. I do not believe there are any names left to call me that the Obama followers and the groupies of particular individuals have not utilized. I am involved in this matter because of the great danger presented to our country, not to belong or create a fan club.I have reviewed the work that was posted on her blog. Most of it is not germane to the Lightfoot case. A background investigation of SA Soetoro and where she lived and worked in the US does will not add one iota of evidence to the case. People donate money for costs related to the constitutional issue, addressed in Lightfoot.

The only reported pro-bono work work done by Orly, was on a case, that is not related to Lightfoot. She flew to Texas, her flight was paid for,housing and transportation were supplied, and she spent 3 minutes before the judge. I will not comment on that FIASCO. They can spin it how they want, but I was there in the courtroom. There are constant requests posted, from Orly, for volunteers to perform the work and the results display the lack of knowledge. Am I criticizing the volunteers? No. I have serious concerns about an attorney that does not bother to read the basis for Subpoena Duces Tecum (SDT); The SDTs' that are posted: state executive order on 1/6/09; no case number; no court stamp or anything to indicate any connection to the court, or proof of service. If the basis for the SDTs was 1/16/09 exec. order,then I humbly suggest that she read the order. What is posted has no legal teeth and will not supply any information.

Orly was on Plains radio talking about "her petition at SCOTUS," when a caller ( an attorney) tried to tell her that she had filed an application not a petition, Orly cut her off and refused to listen, when in fact she did not file a petition or a writ. The SCOTUS rules are posted, attorneys are held to follow them. Citing Bush v Gore, is not going to change that. As the very talented atty. Donofrio discovered, and explained to everyone on his website. The call for volunteers that know how to-----you can fill in the blank with anything that relates to the basic legal knowledge,that an a atty. should possess, before they ask individuals to donate money for legal work related to a case.

Want more reasons,as to why I have questions, try this one.

Orly has been on Ed Hales show various times. It is my understanding that Orly requested and received $10,000 the last time she was a guest on his show, all from donations. True or false, I will know soon. But in the meantime I question, why someone who should want to inform the public about this matter would demand money to do so? This is the same Ed Hale that received double digit thousands claiming he had located documents stating Obama was born in Kenya; thousands more for docs proving SA Soetoro entered the US from Kenya 4 days after Obama was born, and thousands more for the "immigration birth certificate." Thousands more donated and paid to Steve Pidgeon for "expenses" to locate documents. The total exact amount collected is unknown, as Ed Hale refuses to disclose. $10,000 was given to Steve Pidgeon to pick up the phone and call a private investigator. If in fact that was done,as an accounting or an investigators report has been requested but never been supplied.

Why does this matter? Because it hurts those individuals and groups that are actually performing work to address and prevail in this matter. It hurts our credibility,and it reduces our number of supporters for the ACTUAL issue. It also hurts those that actually are working on cases related to this matter, and groups that need donations. They could have utilized those twenty thousand +?? dollars. There are those that have not taken a penny for their work, and there are groups, that have received donations but they have all actually performed the work related to the issue at hand.

I would submit to you that we should and must ask questions. Do not allow anyone to discourage you from asking, any question you may have. Recognize red herrings and look past them. Stay focused and on issue. Do not donate time, money or follow, blindly. Do not mistake popularity with credibility, or patriotism. Finally, do a reality check when saintly or heavenly titles are being bestowed on any particular human being, simply because they are doing what they have stated they are committed to do out of love for our country.

My heartfelt thanks to any and all who have put forth work and effort on this very important matter. Including The many that remain faceless and nameless and do not and have never requested recognition, or money. THANK YOU and keep on asking questions.

Gort said...

Let me put things in perspective here: 12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

13Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

14Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

15And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

16Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

17And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God
Ephesians 6:12-17 We are about to see the destruction of this erstwhile great nation,and a merging into a Fascist New World Order.Many of us know that Barry was chosen for this task,and are trying our best to educate people,not only about the cases,but about any efforts that undermine the goal of trying to restore the Constitutional Republic,and stave off the the NWO.There are enemies that are blatantly obvious to all patriots.But there are also useful idiots as well.If you note the above commmnts,excluding d,Carlyle,and concerned citizen,you will note that one two of them were mentioned[Ed and Lan],but that in addition to that,there is salient information given as well.And Arlen and those posters are using this thread to educate and share information.This is not a "bash Ed Hale" thread.But Arlen has felt it necessary to explain his actions,as Ed posted confidential and private information on a post in his forum.Rest assured,this is not personal.Though some do get caught up in a cult of personality----- Carlyle said: "We need all the help we can get. Further, the upside of his "personality" is that he is enthusiastic and contagious. There should be more like him" No,my friend.We need to do what is just and upright,and do so circumspectly in the Lord.Not with vulgar language and smears.And we should not believe anyone is above criticism or rebuke and exhortation.As for Orly,she is doing a wonderful job.If you want to correct her for the mistakes she's made,fine.But it is utter nonsense to say we need "experts".The so-called "experts" are ruining this nation.The reason the cases are dismissed has to do with a subversion of common law-and a descent into tyranny by a dual form of government installed in the USA from 183-1946.SCOTUS denies without comment to evade the revelation.And District Courts are using "Jurisdiction" to throw them out without telling people why,though many of us know the answer.And yes,we are trying to educate the attorneys.I've sent Orly and Leo much information.We do not have 4 years to pick apart every move the Usurper makes.Things need to be done soon or it will be all over my friends.Listening to patriotic songs and talking isn't going to do it.So,please defend your idols elsewhere,or join us in solving the Constitutional Crisis.

Gort said...

Anon 12:03,good post.Hope you post here again.I've stopped posting over at Orly's and other sites,as they only comment on the inane posters that are praising them,instead of chewing on good ideas and strategies from articulate posters.I'm not bashing Orly.I'm just saying that I explained issues to her in several dozen long posts and in email,without a response,though one on security expenditures was posted,which was a tangential post.LOL!

Anonymous said...

From Orly's blog---- written by larry, January 25, 2009 I am a retired (25) police officer and spent 26 years in the United States Air force as a MSGT in charge of Training for the 482 Security Police Squadron. Was in Vietnam and also served in the Gulf War. For the last year I have been watching this site on a daily basis not believing that Barack Hussein Obama has become our president. I coach a High School softball team and everyone of my players had to produce a birth certificate to be eligible to play through the state. I hate to say this, but we in a total crisis and something will happen if this man is allowed to continue to lead this once proud nation. I have never posted before but know many FBI, Secret Service Agents, CIA and many other Federal Agents who have told me they are not to discuss this issue about Obama or they will be terminated from employment. We all need to take a step back and pray that something will come out on all of these lawsuits. I spoke to the Supreme Court Justice in my state who advised that the US Supreme Court have been ordered to throw out any case that deal with the fraud President elect. May God Help us All (Emphasis added and typos corrected) Obama's covered all the bases. Almost all. Note: This is right in line with my research.People need to stop being parrots and using phrases like-- conspiracy kook,kool-aid drinker--tin foil hat and the like.Or be paranoid of what everyone tewrms "obots".Those are uninformed idol wrshippers.The real enemy are the bloodine elitists known as globalists or the Illuminati.And the conspiracy is real.Which is why hundreds of billions of dollars on alphabet security and policing agencies have not exposed and arrested Barry.No,they are not"stupid" or "lazy".They are traitors in high places.Same goes for SCOTUS and all the judges and sec. of statres,though in their case they are using legal manipulation that is in the Federal Register to do it.So,I won't say illegal,but will say unethical and unconstitutional,and certainly treasonous.Time is short people.We have world leaders saying we must have a NWO right out in the open these days.One used to have to look for their speeches and writings for it.No more.It's out in the open.

Carlyle said...

A Brilliant Informal Observation

This from a normal, non official, anonymous citizen. I think she hit the nail right on the head:

“I think anyone still using party divisions like Democrats vs. Republicans need to have their head examined. Evidence abounds that the GLOBALISTS are the enemy. We need to use only globalists vs. patriots in all future poliyical discussions and correspondence with Reps,Senators. We must let them know that we KNOW and call them out.The Globalists are the “bird flu” if you will,they have infiltrated all pillars of government.”

- “Liz” - from Plains Radio Network message forum

That leads me to further observe, that one reason Muslims fit so well into all of this - as opposed to the other reasons we normally discuss - is that their basic philosophy and core beliefs are inherently Global. They are dead set against nation states - they pine for the global Caliphate they use to have.

In the interests of clarity, I would further add some loose definitions:

Globalist - stronger participation in and allegiance to an international government, a stronger role for the UN and international courts, proactive economic and cultural leveling, cultural and moral relativism, and broad pervasive government.

Patriot - stronger allegiance to the national government and the constitution, unwilling to relinquish power or control to bodies not subject to our constitution, maintenance of the judeo-christian moral compass of our founding fathers, and limited government.

Anonymous said...

I don't think anyone who asks for donations is above being investigated. If they don't like it, that's just too bad. When you ask people for money, expect people to make sure that you're backyard is clean. From the looks of it, Ed Hale's backyard is not clean. That doesn't come from accusations on I.O.'s part. That comes from accusations from a democratic organization that was in the public eye via the media - Hillary Clinton Supporters Count Too. It was that organization who called the activity of Ed Hale during the campaign illegal, not Arlen!

So what if some people just found out about it now and were wondering if this guy is on the up and up? That is what rational people do, isn't it? If Ed Hale is so concerned, maybe he shouldn't have swiped a name that didn't belong to him and then tell people he was a democratic delegate, which this organization emphatically denies that he is.

Are you guys going to deny that you're dealing with a heavy-duty democrat who his own party has had problems with? If that's the case, stop reading now because you don't a clue and need to get one.

It seems to me that Ed Hale was asking for money under that organization's name and they pitched the fit because the money was going to Plains Radio, not a non-profit organization!

I don't care who Ed Hale claims he gives money to, but when you click on a paypal button that goes to Plains Radio, you're giving it to a for-profit company whether you like to believe it or not. If some of you don't think that warrants checking out, you're the fools here, standing behind a man who has no answers, but a long history of questionable behavior.

To hang Arlen out on the clothes line for saying so is even further reason to question whether or not this this man has something to hide.

I'm particularly surprised that an attorney divulged confidential emails when she was expressly told not to right in the email. That's an ethics violation. Orly Taitz should start familiarizing herself the law and stop posting any old thing she finds drama-worthy onto the internet. It's going to wind up biting her in the butt.

All I know is that Ed Hale has so far, trashed every radio show but his, Berg, Donofrio, Pidgeon, websites who investigate him, Arlen, Hanen. Anyone else I miss? How many more people are going to called an O-bot before it's clear that he's the one with the agenda for ratings?

And how the hell does Arlen have anything to do with his investigation in London? I guess he needs to use him as an excuse not to come up with his latest promisory documents. If you find that believable too, you're one sorry bunch of suckers.

Everytime I turn around, it's always Ed Hale's name attached to the drama with one more personality attached to his long list of growing dissenters he slanders about on the airwaves.

Anonymous said...

Anyone remember the open letter Chalice wrote about Ed Hale on their message board?

I guess because SHE kissed and made up wtih Ed that doesn't count either, right? First she's looking for sympathy and blasting away at Ed with her own version of how wacky he is and the next minute all is forgiven and she's got her own spot on his radio show. How quaint!

Gee Chalice, where's Steve? You brag about being his liason but even he hasn't confirmed that line of bull.

And what about everything YOU wrote about Ed? I guess that doesn't count but what Arlen did OUT OF THE PUBLIC EYE is supposed to be deemed despicable?

Plains Radio and anyone associated with it is a JOKE!

Anonymous said...

Yes,I do remember the Chalice debacle.And I guess Ed fired Drake now.Today,there's posts saying if you don't like the ads on there,you can click the donate button and they will not need them.And the standard 'Stop attacking Ed,you obots".I think he'll destroy himself with his big mouth sonner,than later.He's already denied forthcoming information today in a post asking if it would be revealed today per another article.Glad to see people here are watchdogs on all these celebs,radio hosts and lawyers.Division is necessary at times.Unity is only good if everyone is willing to accept scrutiny,especiually when soliciting funds. Also,I found it sad that one Ken Dunbar was posting on Leo's site begging him to overlook Ed's flaws,and return a favor he gave him in the past on some issue.Not sure who wrote this commentary,but it is good--- http://www.thecommentary.net/plains-radio-and-bugs-big-foot-killer-hale/

Anonymous said...

The last promise has awakened a couple folks over there.... Reverb said: What about BERG?

"Watch"

To understand why Berg has no association with Ed Hale you only have to Google "Hale Berg API" and understand Ed's false claims over the API tape and threats made to Berg.

To understand why Leo Donofrio stopped having anything to do with Berg, you only have to hear Donofrio's complaint about Ed posting false claimse that Obama has AIDS.

To understand why Stephen Pidgeon has no further contact with Ed Hale you need to understand the damage done to this attorney's professional reputation be Ed making claims Pidgeon had an "INS Doc" that stated Ann Dunhman entered the country "4 or 5 days after Obama's birth" and this document stated "with child". Pidgeon not only never had that document in hand but had no reason to believe what was on it.

Ed then covered this lie of his by posting the INS Doc number on this forum and breaking into tears that night swearing yet again he was closing Plains Radio.

Guys, the perfidy here isn't that complex or hard to figure out. The problem is you have your heads buried so far up Ed Hale's posterior that you refuse to look. Naught said: Gotta agree with you Reverb. Today I was told in chat that I would be banned for posting a link to another radio show regarding the citizenship issue. It would seem that Ed doesn't want "his people" to actually listen to a professional show. Listening to the Tuesday night broadcast, I felt like I was in high school listening to a pirate radio station. Unbelievably sophomoric. Glad I didn't have a new convert tuning in that night. Sheesh.

It won't be long and Ed will have the same reputation as Mr. Korir. Lies have a way of catching up to you. I have better things to do, than to chase down phony INS doc #'s for Ed's amusement. There are reputable people fighting this fight and they deserve our support. Ed is not one of them.

For as much as he claims to be a patriot fighting the good fight, isn't it amazing how many real patriots no longer associate themselves with him. Instead of bringing people into the fold, he is chasing them away. Maybe he is the OBOT?

Anonymous said...

I have news for you. Orly is just as bad as Ed. I knew that back when she started paying attention to every damn thing under the sun besides her own case and clients.

Ed pays attention to ratings.

They both pay too much attention to money.

All this money and not one of them has managed to do a thing except copy Donofrio and Berg.

When the Globe is more credible than Plains Radio, you know something is up. When suddenly everyone stops appearing on Plains Radio, you know it's because they want no more part of it either.

Better to wake up late than never I suppose.

Anonymous said...

Arlen,I posted the following on Orly's blog.Hope she is sincere.I felt she was in the beginning,but that blog and her actions lately,as well as some of the above posts are of concern to me.Hope she gets her act together. 1-30-09 messenger says: Orly,I have no time for levity.This blog has become a circus as others have noted.That's why I removed dozens upon dozens of my posts,and will delete this one tomorrow.The last article has a key revelation in it.Nothing will come of the incident.But it ties into information I've tried to educate you with.Others like jbjd and Apuzzo have as well.I suggest you read the open thread on IO,and rethink things.Half of the posts are mine.If you want help from people you need to respond here or have others do so.And we don't want recognition,just a response.Now,you are posting credit to researchers on articles.This isn't a game. You need articles to bring back readers.But you could have guest commentary by readers,or post the good comments,instead of ones that are prosaic or full of praise.Forget the celeb angle. http://investigatingobama.blogspot.com/2009/01/open-thread-comments-not-on-topic-of.html it was in response to a joke post-- http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/01/who-worries-about-cow-when-it-is-all.html note:I have a great sense of humor.But we simply have no time for this kind of nonsense and convoluted approach to saving the Constitution.If it were really needed,there could be a link to another joke blog called: "Orly's Quips,Quotes & Jokes".

daddynoz said...

Arlen, thanks for your commentary regarding Dr. Orly and Mr. Hale. I concur with your assessments and find their lack of focus troubling. I have noted in recent weeks a deficiency in standards for the articles posted; the one that finally broke my resolve concerned a letter to the JCS labeling them traitors and called upon the military to rise up in a coup arresting congress. At that point, I realized she had sadly lost control. Anyway, I no longer intend to comment on Dr. Orly's site, though I will check on it from time to time. I wish her well in her efforts to shine the light of truth on Mr. Obama, unfortunately I will no longer count her as a credible force in that effort. In the words of Kilgore Trout, "so it goes".

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daddynoz said...

Arlen, I considered being a plaintiff for her in a future case that represents the complaint of an "active" servicemember (maybe I will). I'm having difficulty articulating my standing. I'm thinking it has to do with my 5th Amendment right regarding the deprivation "of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law" (emphasis on due process). My conundrum as a Soldier, is that the only way I could definitively find out if Mr. Obama is qualified for office is to disobey an executive order and then be tried by courts-martial to discover the lawful nature of the order as determined by a military judge. I am still exploring what my rights are regarding a clear and unambiguous chain of command. If entitled then I should be able to sue in civilian court. If not, then I would have to fall on my sword to get the answer. I write this in light to of what was filed in response to Hollister v. Soetoro by the defendant's lawyers- http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/9-1.pdf
The following is an email response I sent to Dr. Orly stating my issues:

1. I am required to obey "lawful orders".

Army Command Policy, Chapter 4-2. Obedience to orders
http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r600_20.pdf
All persons in the military service are required to strictly obey and promptly execute the legal orders of their lawful seniors.

2. I am required to disobey certain "unlawful orders".

IAW Article 90
(a) Lawfulness of the order.
(i) Inference of lawfulness. An order requiring the performance of a military duty or act may be inferred to be lawful and it is disobeyed at the peril of the subordinate. This inference does not apply to a patently illegal order, such as one that directs the commission of a crime.
(ii) Determination of lawfulness. The lawfulness of an order is a question of law to be determined by the military judge.

3. I am subject to punishment for disobeying an order from the President under Article 92 (Failure ot obey order or regulation)

http://www.jag.navy.mil/documents/mcm2008.pdf
c. Explanation.
(1) Violation of or failure to obey a lawful general order or regulation.
(a) Authority to issue general orders and regulations.
General orders or regulations are those orders or regulations generally applicable to an armed force which are properly published by the President or the Secretary of Defense, of Homeland Security, or of a military department, and those orders or regulations generally applicable to the command of the officer issuing them throughout the command or a particular subdivision thereof which are issued by:
( i ) a n o f f i c e r h a v i n g g e n e r a l c o u r t - m a r t i a l jurisdiction;
(ii) a general or flag officer in command; or
(iii) a commander superior to (i) or (ii).

***

(c) Lawfulness. A general order or regulation is lawful unless it is contrary to the Constitution, the laws of the United States, or lawful superior orders or for some other reason is beyond the authority of the official issuing it. See the discussion of lawfulness in paragraph 14c(2)(a).

4. I am aware (unfortunately) that significant doubt exists as to the constitutional elegibility of my current Commander in Chief.

5. I have no intent to determine the outcome of this election in an official capacity. I ask the court to determine the the constitutional elegibility of Mr. Obama on the behalf of a citizen who happens to be subject to the unique rules of active service in the Armed Forces. If unanswered, my rights under the constitution have been violated IAW the 5th Amendment:

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

(substantive due process- Laws must be written so that a reasonable person can understand what is criminal behavior ).

6. I have no intent to disobey the orders of the President or the officers appointed over me. Due to my knowledge of the questionable eligibility of President Obama, I have doubts as to if I am culpable in a crime obeying General Orders initiated by a potentially unqualified President. Likewise, I have doubts as to the validity of said orders and thier potential conflict with my oath of enlistment:

“I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the [lawful] orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”

7. I assert that I am entitled to a CLEAR and UNAMIBIGUOUS chain of command as a Soldier subject to OBEYING lawful orders. I recognize the fact a military judge IAW the MCM determines the nature of lawful orders in the case of trials by courts-martial. I contend that a Soldier should know implicitly the legality of an order from the President PRIOR to military trial; such would require a determination by the highest civilian court of these United States.

(d) Obedience to orders. It is a defense to any offense that the accused was acting pursuant to orders unless the accused knew the orders to be unlawful or a person of ordinary sense and understanding would have known the orders to be unlawful.
Discussion
Ordinarily the lawfulness of an order is finally decided by the
military judge. See R.C.M. 801(e). An exception might exist when the sole issue is whether the person who gave the order in fact occupied a certain position at the time.
An act performed pursuant to a lawful order is justified. See subsection (c) of this rule. An act performed pursuant to an order is excused unless the accused knew it to be unlawful or a person of ordinary sense and understanding would have known it to be unlawful.

Anyway, Arlen, thanks for your reason and clarity regarding this constitutional crisis.

daddynoz said...

Arlen,

Consider...

A. Plaintiff, an active member of the United States Armed Forces, has significant reason to believe defendant is constitutionally ineligible to serve as Commander in Chief and consequently is unable to issue “lawful orders” to said plaintiff.

B. Plaintiff is subject to punishment IAW military jurisprudence due to his awareness of defendant’s questionable eligibility to issue said orders. Plaintiff is required by military regulation to disobey orders that are understood to be unlawful (patently of a criminal nature).

C. Plaintiff can only prove defendants ineligibility through placing himself in peril of military courts-martial due to the regulatory constraints of active service in the Armed Forces. Plaintiff asserts that his 5th Amendment rights have been violated by the defendant regarding the immanent threat of deprivation “of life, liberty,...without due process of law”. Specifically, the defendant is uniquely capable of violating “substantive due process” by which the defendant’s executive orders have subjected plaintiff to laws that are not clearly understood by a reasonable (informed) person as to whether they are of a criminal nature due to the questionable lack of issuing authorities qualification.

D. Plaintiff has three courses of action (COA) for redress of grievances- violate his oath of enlistment to “obey the [lawful] orders of the President” and follow all instructions of his usurping Commander in Chief, disobey the orders of the President and await adjudication by a military judge as to the [lawful] nature of said order, or seek discovery by the highest civilian court of the United States. The first COA is contrary to all precepts regarding the military obligation of service members to disobey “unlawful orders” IAW the Manual for Courts-Martial and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. The second and third COA would require defendant to prove his eligibility. The second COA unfairly subjects defendant to potential punishment IAW the regulations of the Armed Forces.

E. Does plaintiff have to risk loss of liberty (or life) to seek redress or is he entitled to discovery by civilian authorities to protect his constitutional rights? Plaintiff contends the third COA is the only reasonable method to resolve the issue of defendant’s constitutional eligibility to serve as plaintiff’s Commander in Chief.

Anonymous said...

daddynoz,something isn't right with Orly.She's been informed by many of her supporters of the poor reporting and lack of focus[23 comments last night alone],and today she again posted misinformation,even though Justin Riggs has an open letter to her on his site. http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/01/senator-alexanders-office-has-forwarded.html As for "standing",the fact is that there have been a few cases where standing was not an issue and yet the cases were dismissed.And I pity anyone in the military that follows orders,because that dog didn't hunt at Nuremberg,and will not wirk at The Hague.I'm just amazed there hasn't been protests en masse on city halls,state capitals,and in DC over the bailout looting and this Usurper issue.We have a dumbed down populace.

Anonymous said...

Leo just answered an active military person's post on filing a case.He said that the person or persons do not have to disobey and get court-martialed to have standing.That they can file on "injury as fact" because they are active and are put in harm's way Constitutionally if and when obeying orders by a Usurper.

Zapem said...

No one said it better than a person in the legal field the other day:

"NO blogging about the pending litigation. A few press releases but no more of this Spanky and Our Gang build a clubhouse (or lawsuit ) stuff. You don't see Obama lawyers giving away strategies on the Internet."

You guys should be more concerned with throwing people out of closed forums to discuss things instead of worrying about how many members you can brag about in open forums and childishly calling them OBOTS when they disagree with something you say. All it's doing is causing division, tipping off your opposition and helping them in the long run.

We kick out more people than we invite, but at least it cuts down leaky strategies and we like it that way. Some of you entrepreneurs of social networking and radio may want to think about that.

daddynoz said...

Arlen,
I failed to previously identify the individual I have been conferring with regarding my concerns and intent to rectify the current constitutional crisis. The fellow's name is "jbjd" (unfortunately I do not know his actual name). He has helped me as if he were my priest or bartender; he's listened to my reservations regarding potentionally seditious or disloyal language found in a related complaint, addressed my questions of what the actual standing was (while considering what I thought it might be), and looked out for my welfare related to possible repercussions from military authorities.

http://jbjd.wordpress.com/

Thank you.

Arlen Williams said...

catching up...

Arlen Williams said...

Someone else has sent an open communique to Orly Taitz. I'll report. She can decide what she does and you can, for yourself (though one shouldn't generally make decisions about what one does not know, for someone else). It's in TheCommentary.net:

http://www.thecommentary.net/a-letter-i-recieved-in-my-email-today-concerning-orly-taitz/

Gort said...

Thanks Arlen,I missed that one.I know that after I posted a dozen comments by Orly the other day I had many others there agreeing with me and asking Orly valid questions.No reponse except to those that praise her.And now she moderates comments,though nothing wrong with that.I did read Liar-Liar by jbjd tiday,and Orly condemns herself in the emails,and her actions.I'll be interested in your report.And I'm glad you forewarned Victor about not tolerating attacks or long diatribes promoting Barry.That's why I left him reference works instead of opening dialogue with that operative.Mincing words and phrase over Aylinksky and Marx is like explaining Marxist-Leninism which is a phrase not used anymore.Or sitting down and differentiating Communism.Marxism,Socialism,and debating the proper point in time to use the word Fascism.Nothing but distractions. .....Gort aka Messenger

Anonymous said...

An Open Letter to Orly Taitz:
Dear Orly,
You definitively stated in a public forum that you are co-counsel of Gary Kreep on the Keyes v Bowen #34-200880000096-CU-WM-CDS as filed in the Sacramento Superior Court and schedule to be heard 03/31/2009.

You further stated on your Official Website that you filed a writ of mandamus in the CAND Federal Court and that it is pending and/or active. The Federal docketing system does not reflect record of any case filed by either you or Allen Keyes within the entirety of the federal court system with regard to this issue. Would you be so kind as to provide the docket number?

I understand that you are an avid proponent of transparency, and since you are soliciting funds for expenses accrued as a result of your pro-bono work, would you be so kind as to provide evidence of the trust account that these funds have been deposited into as required by the California State Bar Association, as well as the docket numbers for all cases and the names of the clients on whose behalf you are soliciting donations?

I spoke with members of the investigative team at CalBar, they were specific in their requirements for the solicitation of funds by attorneys handling Pro-Bono cases. All donations must be solicited with the full knowledge and consent of the client on whose behalf the attorney is soliciting, all funds must be deposited into a trust account to ensure that there can be no co-mingling of funds, and proof of the client's consent must be must be made available to the public. To do otherwise is a breach of ethics.

I am requesting that you provide full disclosure and transparency with regard to the above-mentioned documentation if you intend to continue soliciting donations under the guise of Pro-Bono work. Or, if you are not soliciting donations on behalf of any specific client but rather for your foundation, I am hereby requesting that you provide proof of your 501(c)3 tax-exempt status as a charitable organization.

I am sure you will make every effort to practice absolute transparency in all of your dealings with regard to this Constitutional Crisis. Thank you

Gort said...

daddynoz,hope you read the commentary on Orly and contact jbjd and Leo for advice. And Arlen,I think the Plains folk have read these posts here,and some are waking up.They were asking about Pidgeon and an update and the money spent,and why on earth they want to have a picnic.Others asked about picnic donations and were told it would be for meat or stuff.LOL.Ed cut his weekend shows and half the hours during the week will be music.So,like I thought,this last promise of evidence was going to do him in.And the few that stay can waste their time and money on him.I was just interested in Pidgeon and where he stands.The truth is going to come out regardless of these charlatans throwing a monkey wrench in the works.I disagree with the paranoid post saying everyone should keep mum on these cases.The system is corrupt and backing Barry.And those lawyers have thought up the hypothetical scenarios before we can post them.But sheer numbers and tireless determination can bring Barry down.When you get the chance,bump this thread to a sidebar before it disappears off the main page.LOL.Thanks.

Anonymous said...

daddynoz,Leo's new article explains that you do not have to disobey orders to be a Palintiff or worry about court-martial..... http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

Anonymous said...

Orly Taitz' Court Experience - She is quite the defendant. She gets sued almost yearly
https://ocapps.occourts.org/CivilPubv2/Login.do

718165 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ
09/30/1993 MALPRACTICE - DENTAL

S41640 RESPONDENT ORLY TAITZ
02/27/1998 SMALL CLAIMS APPEAL

00CC11017 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ
09/14/2000 MALPRACTICE - DENTAL

03CC04813 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ
03/25/2003 MALPRACTICE-MEDICAL

03CC12382 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ
10/10/2003 BREACH OF CONTRACT

03CC12364 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ
10/09/2003 MALPRACTICE - DENTAL

04CC05196 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ
04/23/2004 BREACH OF CONTRACT

04CC06308 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ
05/28/2004 SPEC PERFORMANCE

AP14265 APPELLANT ORLY TAITZ
12/16/2004 MISC COMPLAINTS OTHER

05CC12538 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ 11/23/2005 MALPRACTICE-MEDICAL

06CC12669 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ 12/06/2006 MEDICAL MALPRACTICE

Anonymous said...

Orly Taitz, terms of her contract with military plaintiffs, include disobeying orders. She posted this on her blog and Army Times. Countless requests were made that she remove it and stop misinforming those in the military. These requests were deleted and ignored. Leo Donofrio was informed that there was a problem as to an atty advising active military to disobey orders. (response is below) IMHO she is either completely incompetent or only cares about donations. It has reached the point that military families are going to contact the commanding officers of the various units to look into this.
Leo posted:
Active Military POTUS Eligibility Suit Advocates Should Not Be Instructing Soldiers to Disobey Orders
Posted in Uncategorized on January 31, 2009 by naturalborncitizen
[UPDATED: 02.01.09 Everybody concerned please read the following blog post by an active military person on this issue.
In that article I learned and became deeply distressed that an attorney put the following in a consent form for potential military plaintiffs:

"I would be unable to follow any orders given by a Constitutionally unqualified Commander In Chief, since by doing so I would be subject to charges of aiding and abetting fraud and committing acts of treason."

This is very bad language. NO SOLDIER NEEDS TO DISOBEY AN ORDER FOR THE ISSUE OF POTUS ELIGIBILITY TO BE PROPERLY LITIGATED.

I do not believe the attorney meant to do harm, but the consent form is so incredibly dangerous that I must speak out about it. Furthermore, I would counsel the attorney that they may be guilty of inciting sedition. Please stop using this form and counseling people with regard thereto.....
I've been watching the situation develop and I've decided to speak out on the issue in order to correct the misconceptions I have seen.
CONTINUE TO FOLLOW ORDERS. DO NOT DISOBEY ORDERS. ]

Anonymous said...

This was posted in a blog, looks like people are getting wise to Ed Hale. About Time.

Post subject: Bombshell, Hit That Paypal Button!!!
Ed Hale of Plains Radio announced yet another "Bombshell". He stated that Obamas Indonesian passport had been found, and that it had been shipped to the U.S and being held in a safe place. Here we go again, another Bigfoot, or "immigration birth certificate" story, or better yet, the big investigation in the UK that is supposed to be going on right now. One has to wonder how much money is Ed going to need now to obtain another non-existent document? How long will it take him to start bellowing, "Hit that Paypal button?" Of course, this will be followed by his guarantee that you can have your money back if he doesn't deliver the promised document(s). However, those that have taken him on his word discovered that all they are going to get are insults. Scammin Ed has favorite names reserved for those that ask for their money back, or don't go along with his scams,"obot" and "obot spy." What is it going to take for people to see through his scams? These scams literally destroy all credibility and the hard work and efforts of many individuals and groups working on the issue of Obamas eligibility to be president.

Hey, Scammin Ed, if Obama left his passport somewhere it could be found, why did they bother to breach State Department security to scrub the records?
Obama's Intelligence Adviser Involved in Security Breach Newsmax.com
Monday, January 12, 2009 1:46 PM
Obama’s top terrorism and intelligence adviser, John O. Brennan, heads a firm that was cited in March for breaching sensitive files in the State Department’s passport office, according to a State Department Inspector General’s report released this past July.

The security breach, first reported by the Washington Times and later confirmed by State Department spokesman Sean McCormack, involved a contract employee of Brennan’s firm, The Analysis Corp., which has earned millions of dollars providing intelligence-related consulting services to federal agencies and private companies.

During a State Department briefing on March 21, 2008, McCormack confirmed that the contractor had accessed the passport files of presidential candidates Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and John McCain, and that the inspector general had launched an investigation.

Sources who tracked the investigation tell Newsmax that the main target of the breach was the Obama passport file, and that the contractor accessed the file in order to “cauterize” the records of potentially embarrassing information.

“They looked at the McCain and Clinton files as well to create confusion,” one knowledgeable source told Newsmax. “But this was basically an attempt to cauterize the Obama file.”

The passport files include “personally identifiable information such as the applicant’s name, gender, social security number, date and place of birth, and passport number,” according to the inspector general report. The files may contain additional information including “original copies of the associated documents,” the report added. Such documents include birth certificates, naturalization certificates, or oaths of allegiance for U.S.-born persons who adopted the citizenship of a foreign country as minors."

Anonymous said...

Yeah,the opportunists continue to backbite each other... Phil Berg is going to sue me

Phil Berg has send us a letter stating that if we do not retract everything that we said about him, he will sue us. Ok Mr Berg, I retact all the lies I said about you. Hope this makes you happy and now I will continue to tell the truth about you. In my opinion, you have not won any case in court because you don't have any evidence to back up what your case is about. You just grab something out of the air and try to make it look good so people will donate more money to you. I was on your web site the other day and you were asking people to donate $50 or get 5 of their friend to donate $10 each. Mr. Berg, we raised $10,000 for Steve Pidgeon and he still has money to use. How many $1000's have you received and what did you do with that money? Have you published a report about where you spent their money? Why will you not tell the people who donate to you what is going on with your cases? Why did you send Oprah a letter? Was this a way to raise more money? The courts has turned down you cases as fast as you file them. Wonder why that is so Mr Berg? Mr. Berg, I will give you the entire 4 hours this Friday night to come on my show and answer these question and others. The problem is you will not do it because you know I will ask the hard question. This is your chance to set the record straight. You will have 1000's of people listening and here is your chance to make your case to them, teh American people. If you think I have not told the truth aobut you, then come on the air and prove me wrong. Now Mr. Berg, you have the ball, what are you going to do with it? I will bet anyone a $100 to a dollar you will not show up. Ed Hale "Just Me"

Ed hale is a ZERO not a HERO.

You're mistaken.

Ed has done nothing but promote lies, raise people from the dead to give false video testimony, impugn lawyers by attaching them to these lies and relegate our interest in removing Obama from the White House to "fringe" and tin-foil hat realm due to Hale's utter lack of credibility, integrity and focus. Aristotle.
Ed Hale has a long history of fabrications, nearly on a weekly basis, which then do not come true and have, on occasion served to impugn various attorneys by their false association with these fabricated stories.

I did not put Ed Hale's "face in it"; he did so at the onset of this thread once more fabricating false hype on this story when he was served today and has the paperwork in-hand. Ed repeatedly shows his ass, and even more so when trying to cover his ass and asinine lies.

Wizen the hell up. Playing referee is a bad position to be in when you don't even know the game. Re: stephen pidgeon

Today, at the plainsradio.com forum, the following was left by Stephen Pidgeon, part of which covers the next step for Broe v. Reed:

Here is an update concerning Broe v Reed.

The plaintiffs have elected not to make an appeal to the US Supreme Court, but are considering other strategies.

We have pursued our investigation, and have incurred over $30,000 in billing doing so. A complete dossier will be available as soon as we complete the remaining legs of our investigation. Jeff-- Re: stephen pidgeon

Looks like ole pidgeon has flown the coop. cgaines-- Re: stephen pidgeon

$30,000 in billing? I thought Pidgeon was doing this pro-bono????

Anonymous said...

I heard Ed and Steve Pidgeon state that this money was only for expenses, and Pidgeons time was pro-bono, this was stated on Ed Hales show with Pidgeon on the phone. Expenses are not billable hours. Pidgeon does not offer up investigation reports. He only offers a dossier of his billing. Birds of a feather do indeed flock together.

Anonymous said...

Unlike Stephen Pidgeon and Orly Taitz, Phil Berg actually has an active case in the NJ District Federal Court. He recently re-filed his petition in the Federal Court System AND it can actually be found in the federal docket via Ecf Pacer.

What has Pigeon done? What docs has he produced for $10,000? Why hasn't Orly ponied up $300 to file the Petition for Writ of Certiorari for her CLIENT, Gail Lightfoot?

Here's why, Pidgeon and Taitz spend their time collecting money and "talking" about how busy they are while they ignore their clients until those clients finally give up.

Taitz and Pidgeon are like the waitress who runs around filling the salt and pepper shakers, ketchup bottles, and napkin dispensers - never taking any orders or serving any food. Sure, they look busy, but they really don't get anything done.

And then that same waitress goes home and tells everybody how hard she worked all day. It's the same thing with Taitz and Pidgeon. But most of us are smart enough not to tip a bad waitress.

Anonymous said...

And now old Ed has to solicit funds in a new way in between promises of docs.with those generous donations-which never go for what they were being allocated---Now Ed is in need of operational funds.Anything over that...well,that's really unimportant to reveal,and if you ask,then you are an obot.. Plains Radio Network
Operation fund
thanks Everyone, the bills are now paid for this month. Ed
$800.00 per month
Please Donate
Also,noticed the pitiful defense of Ed soliciting funds.Some even make pleas for more funds to Ed,and it makes one wonder if these are posts by ED and Caren or if the people are that cultish and gullible.Some must be children.One maverick588 has about 12 words in his vocabulary,besides "dude".

Anonymous said...

Ed stated today in his rant to Berg that they $10,000 they raised for Pidgeon[which we know already],and that there is still money leftover.But shortly thereafter,Pidgeon posted that a total of $30,000 has been incurred to date,though he didn't directly address or correct Ed.Just a cya post.

Anonymous said...

IP: 98.20.56.156

Feb 2, 09 - 7:23 PM Momma E is going to sue me?

I recieved a letter today from Momma E attorney, the great Berg. I talked to my attorney late this afternoon and told him about the letter. My attorney had been preparing a lawsuit againt Evelyn Adams, Winniewood , Ok. He informed me that it was ready to file, so tomorrow it will be file with a injuction to stop Mrs Adam from broadcasting. So if they want war, we can give it to them
State: Texas


Ed Hale




IP: 98.20.56.156

Feb 2nd, 2009 - 7:25 PM Now the OBOTs jump Ed Hale

Ok you scumbags from regulator net jump in and get it over with. Your nothing less a scumbag and everyone knows it. The problem is the people don't beleive anything you say because they all know that your in O's hip pocket
State: Texas


SeekerOfTruth




IP: 173.89.210.126

Feb 2nd, 2009 - 7:26 PM Re: Momma E is going to sue me?

I'm not from regulator, I've been at this site long time, I just wanted an honest answer from you.
More about pidgeon : stece Re: stephen pidgeon

Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding of "billing" is that it's for the private investigators that Pidgeon hired, and their expenses. cgaines Gwen, I don't. I did get the impression from Ed though that our donations were going for Steve's expenses for tracking down evidence and not an hourly fee for himself faithful Re: stephen pidgeon

CG, I was under the same impression. On the show, Ed and Steve stated that Steve was donating his time, and that all donations were going to cover EXPENSES incurred for the investigation. Nobody ever said they were collecting money for Steve's billable hours. mimi Re: stephen pidgeon

Yeah. I understood for private investigators and such.

Anonymous said...

Ed Hale is just awful. You get this to MSM and he, and Plains Radio, are dead.

http://themitchandnanshow.com/?p=521

Arlen Williams said...

[Posted as a release from MommaE. -- AW]

To Who It May Concern:

As a result of Mr. and Mrs. Hale, Plains Radio Network, Inc. and Bar H Farms, Slanderous, Harassing, Defamatory, Threatening and Stalking Behaviors, I have had to hire Council to protect me and my interest.

Below is a Cease and Desist order, which is the first step in an attempt to stop these illegal behaviors. Please read it, as it will tell you what I have had to endure since the 21st day of August, 2008. While I would have preferred not to do this, I could no longer sit idly by and have my reputation destroyed any longer.

Thank you,

Evelyn Adams (aka MommaE)
MommaE Radio Rebels on Blog Talk Radio
MommaE and The Radio Rebels on Monks Media
MommaE Co-Host on My -Two - Cents on Blog Talk Radio

Anonymous said...

Since it appears that SCOTUS will not hear any case, Democrats and Republicans in Washington won't listen, MSM will not report on the cases filed and Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly et all won't talk about them. The only thing we can do is get the truth out to the masses ourselves. Education is the key.

How about a national billboard campaign similar to the GOD billboards?

Suggestions:

WE ARE A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC NOT A SOCIAL DEMOCRACY - REMIND YOUR CONGRESSMEN

CAPITALISM SI - SOCIALISM NO
REMIND YOUR CONGRESSMEN

STIMULUS IS ACCUMULU$ FOR SOCIALISM

MR. PRESIDENT, UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION

Arlen Williams said...

Copied from The Commentary blog.

Re: Hanen
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 11:48 PM
From:

“xxxx xxxx” xxx_xxxx@yahoo.com

To:
bnayna2002@yahoo.com

Ty so much for answering me Hanen. I believe they did quit along with many ppl. I finally shut down the show last night myself. I held on in hopes that what ed and the others were saying was true but, I realized recently with this passport issue last week, that was to be certified and authenticated then posted on plains, you know the one that scotland yard help smuggle across into the united states lol, I hoped it was true.

When this never materialized and when ppl started asking questions about it, about when it would be posted at plains, Ed never responded or would promptly leave the chat room. I became suspect. I questioned where you were many times, never getting any answers other then from Caren one time telling me you were coming back and would resume your show so, I stayed waiting for your return. I did respond in chat saying you were a fine lady and I hope you would return to do your show because, you had a lot of great info and links.

As time went on you did not return and your links were taken down. I then asked why, no one answering me. I repeated many times why and still no one would answer me as if it was taboo. I have since learned many questions are not permitted at plains or they are ignored. I said last night to my partner (soon to be hubby) that I wish I knew where you had gone. I would follow but, I did not know you were the originator of the commentary. I realized today and was happy that i was able to get in touch with you. i am happy now that you have started your own radio show which I knew you would be great at. I told you that from the 1st day I met you. You have that gift hun and you should run with it.

Last night when Ed was asked repeatedly about the passport he did answer for the 1st time that I seen and used you as the reason why it all went into the crapper. I knew then that something was not right and someone was not flying straight, you were being used as the scape goat. Common sense tells anyone that you (Hanen) could not possibly be the cause of why this passport did not make it to the hands of the so called official who was to have this document certified as authentic and will then bring it to congress and it will then bring Obama down.

I knew it could not had been you that destroyed this entire plot/passport and now the passport is missing. he blamed you in open chat. I knew then I was in the wrong place. this is the 4th time since I have been coming to plains that my hopes have been built up only to crash and burn by tales. I decided to close my window to plains and call it a day and a lesson learned. I am happy you have given me a new direction/radio link. I look forward to listening. I wish you and everyone at your site/station the very best. I know you will do great. If I can help you in anyway please email me.

GOD SPEED HANEN.

YOUR FRIEND NANCY

Thanks Nancy and now I feel I have to respond to Ed Hales Bogus charges. I joined Plains Radio A few months ago after leaving another radio show after the host bashed Leo C Donofrio. I was helping them do research and Ed was calling me a great researcher and a great patriot. I enjoyed my time at Plains in the beginning because it was like a big family and we all worked well with one another.

I was asked to be a guest on someones show because a guest had backed out. I did it and i enjoyed myself and after the show I was informed I now had my own show. I did two shows while at Plains and continued to do research. I was handing over all the information I was finding to Ed Hale. After the first time i learned my lesson, I told Ed I needed to send someone to Sommerville, MA to check some information. He agreed and he picked someone from the chat room to travel there and do some research. That night on the Air during Eds show he announced I had found the point of Entry birth certificate. I never told him that and after I heard him say those words I started crying. I was shocked that he could make up such nonsence that I had never said. I send a message to Caren and the response I got was “you know ED” no I didn’t know Ed I was new there.

Ed started asking people donate money to the cause, that’s nothing new groups ask for donations all the time. The first donation scam was for 1000 dollars to pay a detective in Hawaii to get Ann’s divorce papers from Barack Obama Sr. Ed hired this detective and then started saying he was getting some papers and they were gonna be the thing that stops Obama. His favorite words are “this is it folks we got em now” I can’t count how many times we have heard those words in the past months. The PI sent the papers Two Day mail via Fedex but Ed said those papers were so important that me and one other person went to work trying to get them switched to overnight express. Ed said those papers said Barack Obama was born in Kenya. The papers came and it was just a big let down there wasn’t any information there that would do anything for our cause.

I began to worry about the credibility of people involved with Plains Radio. Stephen Pidgeon started coming on Plains Radio and since I didn’t trust the people who Ed put in charge of the research I began sending the research directly to Stephen who I trusted. As the weeks past the lies and the stew thickened. More and more phoney promises from Ed Hale came daily and i began to watch the listeners reactions each time they hit that paypal button and the result was another dead end. People began to leave to stop from being dragged down through the mud on a daily basis. There are two reasons I left Plains Radio which I shall keep to myself so as not to embarass the people involved.

Hosts began to leave and Ed bashed everyone of them. The straw that broke the camels back was the night he bashed Dr Manning. I don’t agree with what Ed Hale does and I left for that reason. I have not bashed him or spoken badly about him. However I felt the need to respond because now he is using me to get out of the troubles he created himself with all his lies. I didn’t ruin anyones investigations. I was doing research on my own. I had no knowledge of what anyone was doing except myself. Ed is using me as a scapegoat so he doesn’t get into trouble for the money he has collected. If I had donated money I would be asking for reciepts, what was all that money spent on.

They want transparency from Obama but Ed hale won’t live under that same standard. Ed I walked away from your station with my head held high. Nothing you can say or do can discredit me and I won’t lower myself to your level. One can only pray for you and hope that God will help you to see the errors of your ways. The rest of you who are lost I have one suggestion, don’t shoot the messenger we are here to find the truth. Next time someone says they need money to get something think twice before you donate. So far for the donations we are batting 0. Thousands of dollars collected and what proof have you seen for your donations. None.

Love, Peace, and Liberty

Hanen

Anonymous said...

Good open letter to SCOTUS by Lyn Stuter http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter141.htm

Anonymous said...

Money but no input at Plains Radio--- SandyEd




IP: 24.99.49.104

Feb 3, 09 - 7:14 PM booting supporters

You know what? For people promoting a free country, it seems wrong to me that we donors get booted from this sites chat room just because we exercise our freedom to visit another chat board of former plains mimi




IP: 71.182.154.137

Feb 3rd, 2009 - 7:24 PM Re: booting supporters

Run out of the Lithium?
State: pa


SandyEd




IP: 24.99.49.104

Feb 3rd, 2009 - 7:36 PM Re: booting supporters

Mimi....go take an eggplant enema.

Ed Pm'd me that I would need to stop saying ***** about him in private messages here or he would make sure I was not back.

Big Brother is at Plains reading your Pm's....how hypocritical to fight against obot and government spies and censorship and then do that.....

Anonymous said...

Ahh,and Ed[I'll tell ya whut]Hale brings paranoia and chaos to his supporters as he shifts gears to the economy and gives Barry a pass.... Rob




IP: 97.118.71.122

Feb 3, 09 - 7:26 AM Who let the Obots out of the Crazy House?

Looks like at the Crazy House old Guss the security guard fell asleep and one of the crazy obots got a hold of his keys, unlocked the front door and let out the other obots! and now you have crazy obots running around Plains Radio grabbing and touching everything with their slimy hands, watch what they are doing they are using peoples names to spread lies and put up false news, this is what obots love to do. Filthy Creatures.....make sure you dont touch one. much anymore. They will not have as much to say.
State: AR Sob




IP: 66.32.108.24

Feb 3rd, 2009 - 9:11 AM Re: Who let the Obots out of the Crazy House?

Ed said last night that he is shifting the focus of Plains Radio to surviving the economic crisis. The Obots will not be around as much anymore. They will not have as much to say.


Maverick588




IP: 96.224.64.93

Feb 3rd, 2009 - 10:51 AM Re: Who let the Obots out of the Crazy House?

Dudes, thats the same as giving up?? You know obots , have been around for along time.. I told you they suck and are very sneaky ...Did you think theyd take ya out for icecream ??? No OBUTTS are what are, and maybe some will realize that when WHO is USING THEM, will at one point find no use for them. Until then, Ronald Reagan said in cases like this "Trust But Verify" By swtching your focus , is a sellout .. The whole point is to get people who want to take their country back, together. While boneheads are tearing each other apart, or threatening each other yous are giving them what they want.. If yous can't handle obots , which you know what and how they are, then you certainly can't handle what's coming. really now, what is wrong with people that they can't even come together under one umbrella... Do yous even understand how long the obots and minions have been doing ther batcrap tactics??? Perhaps someone on here has touched a nerve?? You all said that they are now going crazy??/ Well something must have happened that, makes the OBUTTS feel like they need to attack more??? Bottomline, is this is only a scrimage(like in football game)Either you are a PATRIOT or your NOT.. it's that simple...Coming here is a place people can come to , to say what they like more or less, critique if necessary , be an average american , as if we were in a diner having coffee and talking as if we were there about things going on.. Posting stories from sites , is just like talking about what you see in a newpaper and discussing it among friends. Givng your own , ideas or opinions or conjecture, if the story has no legs , then everyone corrects or just moves on from that story.. Whats the big deal. It seems like the OBUTTS are UNITY and the Conservatives need to team with other Conserv. There is a job ahead , and we must stand together . Like an innocent man, if your innocent your innocent, you don't give in, no matter what. Im only at this IP for a few days more- Many people use this IP- So I will be on another IP soon. So Expect to see a change in mine . Im in this area longer than I thought Id be, so I'll soon be back to my reagualr routine in my life.. Can't wait. This is one reason I don't trust , cause I know they play their games, and also what certain OS systems have dont to Orly--- Let the OBUUTSS play if they wish, whatever just pay attention and keep focued...See if they are bad on here in the name of their Obotized ways, then what makes all yous think they could'nt get the military to fire upon us??? Think long and hard as to why we need to ERADICATE commies/socies/marxies/slammies ideology..Bring back our Republic, show them what it means and why we fight. Maybe they will join, maybe not--- but we march onwards- If we don't , who wants to live like Israel does, or what the women go through in all Arabs countries..Who wants tobe subjugated daily, ??I sure as hell dont want to see that , do you?? Its bad enough as it is.. Take Care of Business, before it takes care of you>>>>>> They will use peace as their tool (sounds just like the slammies do(heellooooo people) They will use alledged needs worldwide, if you fall , then the GULAGS open -- So I suggest we get are heads together and fight like Patriot Marines and free ourselves ---Your chioce, take it while you still can. Never give in !
Good grief.Ed[We got 'em.Oops we don't.Wait we got the proopf,it'll be here next week.No,it's not.Must be Hanen.Wait,we are going to focus on picnics now]Hale has done a number on those poor folks.Yet,some are still blaming mysterious Obots,instead of the Clinton supporting foul-mouthed Ed[Lemme tell ya]Hale.What a huckster.

Anonymous said...

Ahh,and Ed[I'll tell ya whut]Hale brings paranoia and chaos to his supporters as he shifts gears to the economy and gives Barry a pass.... Rob




IP: 97.118.71.122

Feb 3, 09 - 7:26 AM Who let the Obots out of the Crazy House?

Looks like at the Crazy House old Guss the security guard fell asleep and one of the crazy obots got a hold of his keys, unlocked the front door and let out the other obots! and now you have crazy obots running around Plains Radio grabbing and touching everything with their slimy hands, watch what they are doing they are using peoples names to spread lies and put up false news, this is what obots love to do. Filthy Creatures.....make sure you dont touch one. much anymore. They will not have as much to say.
State: AR Sob




IP: 66.32.108.24

Feb 3rd, 2009 - 9:11 AM Re: Who let the Obots out of the Crazy House?

Ed said last night that he is shifting the focus of Plains Radio to surviving the economic crisis. The Obots will not be around as much anymore. They will not have as much to say.


Maverick588




IP: 96.224.64.93

Feb 3rd, 2009 - 10:51 AM Re: Who let the Obots out of the Crazy House?

Dudes, thats the same as giving up?? You know obots , have been around for along time.. I told you they suck and are very sneaky ...Did you think theyd take ya out for icecream ??? No OBUTTS are what are, and maybe some will realize that when WHO is USING THEM, will at one point find no use for them. Until then, Ronald Reagan said in cases like this "Trust But Verify" By swtching your focus , is a sellout .. The whole point is to get people who want to take their country back, together. While boneheads are tearing each other apart, or threatening each other yous are giving them what they want.. If yous can't handle obots , which you know what and how they are, then you certainly can't handle what's coming. really now, what is wrong with people that they can't even come together under one umbrella... Do yous even understand how long the obots and minions have been doing ther batcrap tactics??? Perhaps someone on here has touched a nerve?? You all said that they are now going crazy??/ Well something must have happened that, makes the OBUTTS feel like they need to attack more??? Bottomline, is this is only a scrimage(like in football game)Either you are a PATRIOT or your NOT.. it's that simple...Coming here is a place people can come to , to say what they like more or less, critique if necessary , be an average american , as if we were in a diner having coffee and talking as if we were there about things going on.. Posting stories from sites , is just like talking about what you see in a newpaper and discussing it among friends. Givng your own , ideas or opinions or conjecture, if the story has no legs , then everyone corrects or just moves on from that story.. Whats the big deal. It seems like the OBUTTS are UNITY and the Conservatives need to team with other Conserv. There is a job ahead , and we must stand together . Like an innocent man, if your innocent your innocent, you don't give in, no matter what. Im only at this IP for a few days more- Many people use this IP- So I will be on another IP soon. So Expect to see a change in mine . Im in this area longer than I thought Id be, so I'll soon be back to my reagualr routine in my life.. Can't wait. This is one reason I don't trust , cause I know they play their games, and also what certain OS systems have dont to Orly--- Let the OBUUTSS play if they wish, whatever just pay attention and keep focued...See if they are bad on here in the name of their Obotized ways, then what makes all yous think they could'nt get the military to fire upon us??? Think long and hard as to why we need to ERADICATE commies/socies/marxies/slammies ideology..Bring back our Republic, show them what it means and why we fight. Maybe they will join, maybe not--- but we march onwards- If we don't , who wants to live like Israel does, or what the women go through in all Arabs countries..Who wants tobe subjugated daily, ??I sure as hell dont want to see that , do you?? Its bad enough as it is.. Take Care of Business, before it takes care of you>>>>>> They will use peace as their tool (sounds just like the slammies do(heellooooo people) They will use alledged needs worldwide, if you fall , then the GULAGS open -- So I suggest we get are heads together and fight like Patriot Marines and free ourselves ---Your chioce, take it while you still can. Never give in !
Good grief.Ed[We got 'em.Oops we don't.Wait we got the proopf,it'll be here next week.No,it's not.Must be Hanen.Wait,we are going to focus on picnics now]Hale has done a number on those poor folks.Yet,some are still blaming mysterious Obots,instead of the Clinton supporting foul-mouthed Ed[Lemme tell ya]Hale.What a huckster.

Anonymous said...

Now if the Halebots could see that the same thing they are projecting onto the so-called Obots are being done to them by Hale,they could join forces to expose Barry .This post on Plains is about the infiltrators there.Unreal! booklady




IP: 205.188.116.14

Feb 3rd, 2009 - 7:36 AM Re: Beware - the Obots are here to divide and conquer

I know it's hard to admit when you've been mislead. It hurts and it makes you feel like a fool. Our first inclination as humans is to cling to our self-image that we're right, but sometimes, we misjudge people and events. It happens. This time, judgment was made under the extraordinary circumstances of employing the unethical use of a documented and practiced psychological technique. This technique is not a conspiracy theory.

I would recommend anyone who still supports the people who have done this to them, whether they believe something unusual occurred or not at this point, to go read the document posted earlier about conversation hypnosis. Read it carefully and check the sources cited.

Anonymous said...

Plains forum- Sob




IP: 66.32.108.24

Feb 3rd, 2009 - 9:11 AM Re: Who let the Obots out of the Crazy House?

Ed said last night that he is shifting the focus of Plains Radio to surviving the economic crisis. The Obots will not be around as much anymore. They will not have as much to say NOTE:Well,this gives the carnival barker Ed Hale an excuse not to address the $10,000 to Pidgeon that was supposed to produce the POE docs to expose Barry.

Anonymous said...

That Chalice is a shill for Ed Hale.She was exposed in a post on this open thread last week.Scroll up to read about it.Here's her latest post on Plains Forum ------ Chalice




IP: 202.75.39.98

Feb 4, 09 - 1:41 AM Thank you

Thank you for helping keep Plains Radio going one more week.

Until next week, don't forget to...

HIT THAT PAYPAL BUTTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!Sure.She has a radio show now and they plan picnics,and are now giving up on the Usurper and will focus on the economy,as if any of those amateurs have a clue about the economy or Barry.

Anonymous said...

Matbe we saved those Plains listeners some bucks today.The post by Chalice is already deleted.Ed or Chalice must read this thread.Good job friends!

Arlen Williams said...

I.O. will allow TWO MORE POSTS about Ed Hale here in this thread, if they are pertinent or help a couple people get something worthy of posting off their chests. After that, if it is not of mangnum importance, it is likely to be, respectfully, deleted.

Especially if Mr. Hale is taking his traveling show to territories other than Barack Obama, what does I.O. have to do with him?

What we do have to do with, however, are honest people whose motives are for our so precious nation and its essential virtues and freedoms. You are respected here. I hope you are well served.

Anonymous said...

Daddynoz

I think this is a good way for a military man to take action. You can skip down a bit. It is from Orly site.

--- On Sun, 2/1/09, morgan ward wrote:

From: morgan ward
Subject: Follow up on Hotel accomodations in DFW and a suggested remedy for Obama to prove elligibility from the military
To: dr_taitz@yahoo.com
Cc: stevewhughes@yahoo.com
Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009, 6:04 AM

Dr Taitz, You had sent me an email as a representative of Plains Radio Network to assist you in locating availability of rooms for your April Conference. I have beed desperately inquiring and what I have come up with is not too positive. There are rooms available but spread all over the Dallas , Ft. Worth area, but not in Mass. I have been told that it would be nearly impossible to arrange such a large gathering in a close radius. I will still try as I want to help you find accomodations. In another matter. I would really like you to read and consider what I am going to share with you regarding an Article 138 UCMJ complaint. I am aware that you and Leo agree to the fact that ACTIVE duty military have the best chance at standing in a suit against Obama. I believe there is another way which would't require but one active duty personnel to initiate, and with NO harm to their Career. This is a little known method but I really believe can grant you huge dividends. Please take the time to consider the following. You may have to tweak the complaint and remedy a little, as I am just giving you the jest of my suggestion. The other part is the actual UCMJ article 138. Orly, I am a retired US Army SFC. Few people in the military are familiar with an Article 138 Investigation. While on Active duty, I felt I was wronged by my Battalion Commanding Officer, so I researched the UCMJ and found this: I filed an Article 138 Investigation upon my Commander and had never seen such a "hot potato". I literally brought my Field Artillery Battalion to a standstill for 2 days while the Battalion Commander decided what to do with my complaint. After my Commander had met with all of his aides and consulted legal advice from the US Army Jag Corps, I was granted exactly what I had demanded in my request for redress. This was both a written and an Oral appology to me by my Battallion Commander, (LTC) in front of 500 fellow officers and soldiers within my battallion. The beauty is that the person filing a grievance MUST be given a final Disposition, so this will eventually get to the Secretary of the Branch of Servive in which it is brought. in my case, it would have been the Secretary of the Army.And all of this without harming or in any way having any detrimental effect upon the person complaining. So, I offer the complaint: As a soldier I do not feel that President Barack Obama has proven his eligibility to be President of the US and therefore can't serve as Commander in Chief. I feel as though any order given to me now would be invalid as he is a Usurper. He has never been properly vetted and thus has never shown a vault copy of his birth certificate. I feel and I believe there is enough evidence to show that President Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen of the US and therefore is not qualified to be President in accordance to Article II of the US Constitution. My request for redress is that President Barack Obama be made to prove his eligibility by showing a certified, forensic proven, long copy of his Vault Copy of his Borth Certificate. This must include as a minimum his place of birth, attending physicians name, parents names and any other pertinent data required by the average citizen necessary in obtaining a US Passport. Below is the Actual Article 138 UCMJ Redress of Grievances: Article 138 of the UCMJ is one of the few provisions of the code that permits the service members to go on the offensive.This provision gives you the right to file a complaint against your Commanding Officer for ANY ( emphasis added by me) grievance you may have including harrassment, violations of your rights, unfair treatment, ect... ( again for ANY reason, added by me). Normally, before filing the complaint, you should seek to resolve the issue with your Commander. If this is not appropriate or not successful, you may file the complaint with the officer exercising General Court-Martial Authority over your Commander. ( In other words, this complaint keeps going upward thru the chain of command till resolved). The Commander MUST9 emphasis added by me) investigate the complaint and forward the results to the office of the Secretary of your Branch of Service, ( ie, The Secretary of the Army, Secretary of the Navy, etc). The manual for Court-Martials provide guidance on filing an Article 138 Complaint. In my case Orly, I just hand wrote my grievance and handed it to my Batallion Commander. The legal system took care of the rest. I can't emphsis enough, the Soldier must get an answer in resolving this. It will definately make it to the Secretary of the service originated in. There I know they will take appropriate action with the Joint Chief of Staff or Congress to get a resolution, otherwise the person originating the action would be free to disobey any order given to him/her. I hope you may use this as a basis to get Obama to prove his eligibility. This doesn't require 2000 military in a class action suit. It would only require one. It gets aroung the standing issue and will not harm the career of the person initiating the request. Just another thought as I hope it will help you. morgan ward830-980-2760
Posted by Orly Taitz, DDS Esq. at 8:39 PM 9 comments Links to this post

Anonymous said...

It seems to me everyone is getting bent out of shape. I see nothing wrong with what Orly wrote.

"I would be unable to follow any orders given by a Constitutionally unqualified Commander In Chief, since by doing so I would be subject to charges of aiding and abetting fraud and committing acts of treason."

This is a true statement of fact which would take place after it was proven that Obama is not a qualified president. Orly definitely does NOT ask anyone to disobey an order. The lawsuit would be brought upon the statement that if the President is not eligible to be President then his orders would be wrong and the military should not obey them. However, Orly and everyone understands that first we must get the courts to declare that he is not President.

People who do nothing but read blogs and post should not attack Orly who is doing all she can to the best of her ability to save this country. 300,000,000 people in this country who sleep all the time and we have someone from Russia who gets up out of bed trying her best to save our country.

Only those who are doing something like Berg, Donofrio, Wrotnowski, etc have the "standing" to criticize Orly and I bet they would help her on the cases more then criticize her.

I read over the attack by the so called family who is complaining that Orly is asking military to disobey orders and I believe this is smeared by Obots and Obama's defense team. They are trying to destroy Orly because she is being very effective in getting information out to everyone.

No one so far has succeeded. In general it probably costs a minimum of $50,000 to hire a lawyer to present a case through the Supreme Court. These things are very expensive.

If someone is really supporting our efforts to remove Obama then why would they be threatening to go to military commanders to remove one of our lawyers who is fighting as best she can.

We must be united as ONE. Not fighting among ourself. Obots and Obama will post phony messages to get us to fight against each other.

Also those who complain about donations to Orly. They should make full disclosure as to how much money they have donated and to whom. They probably have not donated a penny. They are probably Obots trying to destroy us. Go away Obots.

I want to get rid of this usuper. Let us work together.

Stop harrassing Orly. Go support who you wish. Allow the others to do their work.

Orly posted a good method for military to object without a lawsuit. READ IT.

Anonymous said...

Maybe Orly is not the super best Constitutional Lawyer. But then where is this Best Constitutional Lawyer bring what cases to solve this problem. Orly is working hard. Maybe she will win. Maybe she will not win. But all the work she does helps all other lawyers to decide how to bring the next case.

As far as Ed Hale is concerned. I do not connect to Ed. I gave up when he attacked MommaE. I really like MommaE and know she has helped raise money for Berg by matching or matching double. I like MommaE. Her program is great.

Now Ed Hale is all over the place. I figured I do not have to listen to his program to find out if the Birth Certificate will be found by him. It will be all over the internet if it is produced. So I ignore Ed and know the news will get to me.

Some time ago I posted to Orly to avoid Ed Hale but I guess she chose differently. I think those who get too close to Ed Hale are going to be hurt. Ed seems to be self destructive.

I like tdblog, jbjd, DrKate, Berg, Donofrio, Wrotnowski and all the lawyers including Orly. Although I admit that Orly is a bit green and could use more experience at this level. But she does try hard. I find she is a good source for information. But I skip over that which is not so interesting. I look for good stuff like the above post on

Article 138 UCMJ Redress of Grievances:

Now maybe it would be better to get Donofrio or Wrotnowski or Berg to handle a case of Article 138 UCMJ Redress of Grievances: BUT it was still Orly who managed to get this information out to everyone so we can use it.

Please stop fighting. Let us learn to love each other and work together like one big happy family.

Bruce Majors said...

Obama Appoints Anthony to Bureau of Maternal and Child Health

February 6, 2009 Washington DC


President Barack Obama appointed Casey Anthony today to the position of Director of the Bureau of Maternal and Child Health in a well-attended ceremony in the White House.

"This is another of Obama's brilliant appointments, " commented Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. "Clearly Ms. Anthony knows that it takes a village to raise a child. We look forward to working with her on international programs for population control."

House Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi seconded Secretary Clinton's enthusiam: "It is not only important that we have appointed the first female head of the Bureau, but we have appointed someone who understands the crucial importance of fully funding retroactive reproductive choice services. Our health care professionals face serious unemployment and fully funding these services will put Americans back to work, as well as help us with cost containment in education and other social service budgets."

In an article on "Obama's New Feminism," in this Sunday's "New York Times" magazine, long-time observor of the Washington social scene Sally Quinn praised the Casey Anthony appointment for its practicality. "For too long Republicans from Bush to McCain have pursued a wild west, laissez-faire approach to their female cabinet and other appointments, selecting women like Karen Hughs and Sarah Palin without regard to whether they had family responsibilities. President Obama returns us to the Democratic wisdom of Clinton appointees like Janet Reno and Donna Shalala who are unencumbered by family obligations, and can truly be examples for young women. From Governor Napolitano to the more maverick case of Casey Anthony, by hook or by crook, these women will do what needs to be done to make sure that they can devote their entire energies to the public weal."

Asked at the subsequent press conference whether Ms. Anthony's legal difficulties might prove an embarassment to the Obama administration, White House Spokesman Robert Gibbs said: "Republicans are, um, trying to make, um, something of Ms. Anthony's, um, innocent mistake of confusing chloroform, um, with the mosquito repellent "Off!" This is, um, a shameless, um, distraction from our, um, important stimulus bill. And it, um, won't work. We won!" Mr. Gibbs added that an Obama council of advisors including Robert Reich, Paul Krugman, and Doc, Sneezy, Sleepy, Grumpy, Happy, Bashful, and Dopey disputed recent figures cited by House Republicans on infant mortality from the Congressional Budget Office.

Mr. Gibbs then ended the press conference abruptly, referring further questions to Assistant Press Secretary Moe Locke.

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Copyright 2009 by Bruce P.Majors

Anonymous said...

Okay Arlen,but it kind of defeats the purpose of an open thread to limit content,even if it sways to one group or individual more often than not.Read the comments on Sam Sewell's article.I'm not partisan,just a true blue American.But I abhore Leftists claiming to be patriots under the cloak of Democrat.I thought you called out Sam months ago.I certainly knew that guy for what he was and is by his posts and his blog.

Anonymous said...

Arlen,for the reader's sake,leave this comment posted....Sam Sewell is Aristotle The Hun over at Plains Message Forum.He tagteams with Ed to squelch any honest questions posed to Ed about funds or documents.Ed fires off doltish posts,while Sam will post a long litany claiming to be fair,sticking up for Ed,and justifying deleting posts and banning people.I'm not a Plains chatter or poster,but have monitored that site for months.I was done with that place,until learning of Sam,and thought it useful to post here as he is the new"Roundtable" buddy of Arlen and Hanen.I hope they see through that guy.

Anonymous said...

Well,the comments by Sam are already gone.Hope Arlen isn't in so tight with Sam that he deleted them.At least move them here Arlen.They are valid observations.And I hope you look a little closer at what the Hun says from now on.I,for one do not want a Marxist Utopia...because it will be an Orwellian Dystopia in reality.

Sam Sewell said...

My goodness! What a collection of irrational, over-emotional, inaccuracies.

Now, at least make an attempt at objectivity by posting what I actually said rather than your inacurate report of what I said.

Anonymous said...

Ataacking the messenger huh Sam? We've seen your posts.And the gist of your postion was sted although deleted by you or Arlen.I take it it was you.And to pick it apart would be a long rant that would again be deleted.I fyou kept the posts up we could both go over them objectively now couldn't we????BUt alas, you can play ignorant for they are down the Orwellian memory hole.

Anonymous said...

Will you insult and lecture this guy with prose over Ed's rights as well Sam???Hun??? Steve-- 2-8-09 2am Steve




IP: 211.157.109.95

Feb 7, 09 - 2:06 AM Pidgeon

Chalice, when can we expect to see that "dossier" of expenses? $10k is a nice chunk of change - what did you, Ed and Steve do with our money

Anonymous said...

Sam,how do you dend the cult of Ed??? ReVerB


IP: 66.49.222.120

Feb 6, 09 - 3:04 PM Personality Cults & Obama

Obama & Personality Cults

What you blind Hale supporters are exhibiting is "personality cultism", just as was employed by one Barack Obama to get elected.

Ed Hale operates on secrets, innuendo, irresponsible and even foolish assertions, unfulfilled promises, and claims that have no chance of being true (a gentle euphemism for "lies") with these falsehoods being employed deliberately for personal gain, otherwise known as fraud.

Ed Hale was "worked hard" at nothing but his own power and control of his cult, and that is all it can be referenced as. This seems to have reached such an astonishing level of obscenity that Ed Hale believes NOT ONLY that he is entitled to read other persons "private" PM messages but Hale, at the URL below, has stated defiantly that he will punish anyone for what they state in privacy.

http://plainsradio.ning.com/forum/topics/why-i-got-the-boot?id=2701685%3ATopic%3A2398&page=2#comments

This is not a healthy environment for positive outcome and certainly is not one any rational U.S. citizen can justify when the alleged reason for this "union" is to remove Obama and restore the Rule of Law and our individual freedoms as defined by the U.S. Constitution.

The fact is nothing has yet been positively accomplished or unveiled by Ed Hale or any one of his members that has served uncover anything that might remove Obama from his usurpation.

The only surprise here is that so many relish being repeatedly lied to and so transparently manipulated in order to cling to a false sense of security and hope that they are actually accomplishing something.

SO REALLY the difference between Obama and Ed is you LIKE Ed's lie and he makes you feel like you matter.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Ed Hale has provided "a conduit" where other valid guests have aired the truth. Ed's positive contributions cease there.

Ed Hale has made repeated claims of shortly forthcoming information and 'proof' and "having Obama" on a nearly weekly basis. I was suckered by the first one of these, which came in the form of Ed's claim that the Supreme Court had notified the Bush White House to alert the National Guard. Quite obviously this, like all the other cliams, was false and of Ed's own fabrication.

Since then we've seen no "INS document" with statements Ann entered the U.S. four or five days after Obama's birth and being with child. We've seen no "Indonesian Passport". We've seen no document that Obama has aids. Ed did not himself number the pages of the divorce decree, with no pages missing. There has been no POE document in Miami. There were no "import-export guys" who had triplicate copies of a birth certificate. There was no "someone" who received Obama's Indonesia Passport (somehow "certified")on Tuesday, the day of Inauguration.

And the worst part of all this is persons other than the fabricator, Hale, have taken the harm from Hale's false blame for things he alone fabricated, such as Pidgeon for the INS document, or Hanen for the "POE document". And twice now Hale has claimed on-air that Hanen is responsible for the "failure of the London investigation" (there was no London Investigation and Hanen could not possibly have caused its failure) or the blame the "Passport search" (equally not her doing). How many people have been banned from his chatroom for asking only for the truth? How many people have been maligned as "Obots" for daring to question Ed Hale? How many subjects are now taboo because they tread on Ed's non-existent credibility?

What is "small" is you somehow find the means to justify these behaviors which do nothing but undermine the overall credibility of claims that Obama is not qualified. What is smaller still is that you stand by Hale and NOT by the facts, showing quite clearly this is a cult of personality and not based on Truths, with a singular focus on the "end goal".

I don't worship anyone. I do not seek profit, money nor any gain of any kind for my efforts. I don't ask to be followed; i don't expect followers, but ya know what? People look to me because they TRUST in my ethic, my judgment and my motivation.

There's a reason Pidgeon stopped talking with Hale. There's a reason Berg and Donofrio and Wrotnowski do not communicate any longer with Hale.

And its clear that your support for Hale amounts to nothing but the reference of this thread's title: a personality cultist.

Arlen Williams said...

Arlen Williams said...
I.O. will allow TWO MORE POSTS about Ed Hale here in this thread, if they are pertinent or help a couple people get something worthy of posting off their chests. After that, if it is not of mangnum importance, it is likely to be, respectfully, deleted.

Especially if Mr. Hale is taking his traveling show to territories other than Barack Obama, what does I.O. have to do with him?

What we do have to do with, however, are honest people whose motives are for our so precious nation and its essential virtues and freedoms. You are respected here. I hope you are well served.
February 4, 2009 3:37 AM


That is two.

Sam Sewell said...

Here is my post. How anybody interpreted this as me supporting Ed Hale is beyond me.

"Reverb,

I routinely delete comments on my blog when the poster does name calling, profanity, crude comments, personal attacks, or even obvious stupidity and immaturity. I usually do not delete ideas I disagree with. I would expect the publisher of any blog to do the same. As you know there are some blog publishers who go well beyond my standards in deleting post or banning posters. Certain liberal blogs will ban you if the suspect you of using your right lung to breath. The previous described behaviors are the rightful prerogatives of blog publishers even liberal blog publishers.

If I am doing things wrong in someone else’s eyes I don’t expect that person to come into my house or place of business to make their point about my perceived faults.

Now, if you start a blog about what a PITA Ed Hale is I would expect you to delete the posts of Ed’s supporters and Ed as you see fit. I would see that as your perfect right.

Perhaps a better venue for Ed Hale detractors, and exposers or those who feel the have a moral duty to protect others from Ed hale’s villainy would be to publish their own blogs. My read on this from looking at the content of my own inbox is that any number of people would post on a blog entitled Ed-Hale-Sucks. I would also expect the moderators of such a blog to preserve the spirit, intent and content of such a blog by deleting posts and banning people who violated the mission of such a blog.

Now, is that reasonable of me, or would you delete my post or ban me for sharing my ideas?"

Interesting coincidence: The word verification for this message was: hypsyco. Hmmm!

Anonymous said...

Check out Voices From The Heartland show today 2-7-09.Greg went over the past 2 weeks of various researchers speaking about the False Flag event we've been warned about by so many public leaders.A c130 pilot's conversation was picked up that the exposure had an effect.Dr.K and Don Nicoloff were his guests.As the Bible says-"wars and rumors of wars" in these times.As for Sam,we'll let it go.Just want to point out that this has nothing to do with discretion over keeping a forum free from attack posts.But the pattern of someone smearing their own supporters for asking valid questions,and Sam defending the actions in a roundabout why by referring to how he handles things and giving a hypothetical scenario to justify it.It didn't support the poster's concerns that there has been no accountability.Spinning it now doesn't alter that fact.And I've noticed this pattern repeatedly with the Hun. http://republicbroadcasting.org/index.php?cmd=archives

Anonymous said...

Interesting article relating to above post on false flag,though reported as a possible real terrorist attack thwarted. http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=85118&sectionid=3510203

Anonymous said...

Arlen,make sure you read the email from Ralph Epperson.He's an historian and knows what he is taking about.He called back on the show tonight.He tried to talk to Berg on Frankly Speaking weeks ago,but Berg blew him off.This goes to all I've been saying about the Administrative State,and events in the past 169 years that have nullified the Constitution,but it hasn't been made public.This Usurper issue has brought it to light.No ironclad case along conventional lines will solve this crisis.Nor will talking about the daily crimes of Barry for the next four years,as bluntly put,this nation will be a vassal state of the NWO long before that time.

Anonymous said...

Someone else out there is on the ball.I gave up on Orly,but read this over there--- 2/10/2009 8:53 PM jedipauly wrote:
In fact it is not your government, and they do own it, and you, through your social security number, which proves your membership of the Corporation. The "United States of America" or U.S. corp. for short, is a foreign owned "private" corporation not belonging to Americans. American citizens are actually only members of a corporation and not citizens of a Constitutional Republic. This is why Obama does not have to prove he is qualified. The corporate board (Congress) who pretends to be a government of "Original Jurisdiction" (look up this definition and history) has determined Obama is qualified. Obama does not have to comply with the courts because of the 5th amendment protection against self-incrimination. The courts do not have jurisdiction because they can not affect a remedy that is enforceable. Even if they say he is not qualified what power do they have to remove him? What are they going to do, order Congress to remove him? Courts have no authority to order Congress around! I am surprised these cases have not been dismissed on these grounds. Probably too bold a move even for Obama. I think a better strategy is to block implementation of anything he signs shutting down his ability to function in government thus exposing his fraud. The military has no cause to sue Obama. The military has sworn allegiance to Corp. U.S.. Corp. U.S. has determined he is qualified, end of story. Most Americans and attorneys have no clue about the true relationship between the People of America and the Government of the United States of America. That Government is the Government of Corp. U.S. and not the Government of,by, and for "We the People". We lost that Government in the Civil War. Corp. U.S. was formed in the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 which created the "U.S." as a foreign "private" municipal corporation in the District of Columbia. Then Corp. U.S. adopted the Constitution of the united States of America (the constitution of the Republic, Original Jurisdiction, lower case u in united) as their Charter. With the adoption of the Constitution as "their" Charter, not the Peoples, the "Government" of Corp. U.S. was formed. This is the government that everyone erroneously believes is "their" government. It is not, but rather it is the Government of a foreign private Corp. that has usurped the government of the Republic of Original Jurisdiction. This is why they can do so much in secret and hide everything from their enemies (the American People) because they are a foreign private corporation that cannot be compelled to disclose anything!
The solution is to reseat the government of "Original Jurisdiction" then, with the backing by the military, retake our White house and Republic back from the usurpers. This is the only way to Lawfully and Peacefully restore our Republic.See more on this at http://www.teamlaw.org./Government/usmap.htm">http://www.teamlaw.org./Government/usmap.htm. Please go to Team Law at http://www.teamlaw.org./ and read the patriots myths, & myth 22.------- make the people the enemy[1933] and lastly,after setting up a Gestapo Homeland Security wage war on them and create a dictatorship. Barry was chosen for that purpose.And that's why reseachers and historians have been trying to educate all these lawyers to alter their strategy.Esp.the APA Act of 1946 and the fact that SCTUS closed shop in 1988,which goes back to 1933 as Epperson tried to explain to Berg recently.

Anonymous said...

The Stimilus scam of Balck Friday 2-13-09 was the final nail in the coffin folks....... Australia.To [Australia's national website]
What was discussed at a closed session of the U.S. House of Representatives?


Tuesday March 25, 2008 7:37pm EST

BRISBANE, Australia - The House has held a closed session for the first time in 25 years and apparently discussed a hotly contested surveillance bill.

Republicans had requested privacy for what they termed "an honest debate" on the new Democratic eavesdropping measure.

Conspiracy theorists around the world have filled many pages of blogs and emails with theories as to why the public was prevented to hear what their elected representatives said and heard.

That is the nature of secrets: those "kept in the dark" want to know and in the absence of knowledge, seek answers.

Writers suggested that the special closed session of the U.S. House of Representatives discussed a lot more than the pending security surveillance provisions.

Last week's session was only the fourth time in 176 years that Congress has closed it's doors to the public.

Word has begun leaking from last weeks special, closed-door session of the United States House of Representatives.

Theorists wrote "Not only did members discuss new surveillance provisions as was the publicly stated reason for the closed door session, they also discussed: The imminent collapse of the U.S. economy to occur by September 2008, the imminent collapse of US federal government finances by February 2009, the possibility of Civil War inside the USA as a result of the collapse and advance round-ups of "insurgent U.S. citizens" likely to move against the government.

Also theorised was the detention of those rounded-up at "REX 84" camps constructed throughout the USA and the possibility of retaliation against members of Congress for the collapses and the location of "safe facilities" for members of Congress and their families to reside during expected massive civil unrest

Other answers included "the necessary and unavoidable merger of the United States with Canada" (for its natural resources) and with Mexico (for its cheap labor pool), the issuance of a new currency - THE AMERO - for all three nations as the proposed solution to the coming economic armageddon.

Members of Congress were FORBIDDEN to reveal what was discussed and ABC News via WCPO web site at the link below CONFIRMS congress members were FORBIDDEN to talk about it!

Several are so furious and concerned about the future of the country, they have begun leaking info. Also,reported in Financial Sense article---- part of article here:
ECONOMIC COLLAPSE IN SEPTEMBER?
by Clif Droke
May 19, 2008

A rumor is swirling around the Internet that an inglorious end to the U.S. economy is imminent. Unlike previous rumors to this effect, this one carries the weight of recent events in the financial realm and has many believing the rumor will come to pass.

Let’s examine some of the claims being made: On March 18, 2008, a “closed door” session of Congress was held for only the fourth time in history. According to House Rule XVII, clause 9, it is forbidden for members of the U.S. House of Representatives to reveal the discussions held behind those doors. The penalty for leaking such information includes loss of seniority, fines, reprimand, censure or expulsion. According to news sources, one purpose of the meetings was to discuss new surveillance techniques to be used by U.S. Homeland Security. Rumors continue to swirl as to what the other topics of discussion took place in that meeting.

According to the Australia.TO newspaper, as reported in the May 2008 Last Trumpet Newsletter (LTM), several congressmen were so incensed about what was discussed behind those doors that they were compelled to leak the contents of the meeting. Following is what is rumored to have been discussed: Imminent collapse of the U.S. economy by September 2008; imminent collapse of the U.S. Government finances by February 2009; possibility of civil war within the U.S. resulting from the collapse; detainment of “insurgent U.S. citizens” in anticipation of their moving against the government; the potential for violent action taken by citizens against members of Congress due to the collapses; the merger of the U.S. economy with those of Canada and Mexico as a solution to the collapse; the introduction of a new tri-national currency called the “AMERO” as another economic solution. And the LTN report of it here: MAY 2008

On the 13th day of March 2008, a rare "closed door" session was held by the United States House of Representatives. It was only the fourth time in the history of the United States that the House of Representatives closed the doors and met in absolute secrecy. Thus, those who were elected to represent the people of the United States would not allow the people to know what they were meeting about. Furthermore, House Rule XVII, clause 9, forbids the Representatives from revealing what was discussed. The penalty for leaking such information includes loss of seniority, fine, reprimand, censure, or expulsion! What went on behind those closed doors where every member was sworn to absolute secrecy, to always conceal and never reveal? We know that the only reason for secrecy is to hide evil. The news media said almost nothing about the secret conclave, but it was mentioned only that one of the items being discussed was the new surveillance techniques that are going to used by the U.S. Government to watch every American. (19)

After diligently searching for more information, I finally found what I was looking for in an Australian newspaper. The story appeared in Australia.TO from Brisbane, Australia. The article stated that ABC News via WCPO confirmed that Congress members were forbidden to talk about what went on in their secret meeting. Several of the Representatives, however, were so furious and concerned about the future of the country that they began leaking info. Here are some of the things that were reportedly leaked out regarding the secret meeting: Discussion regarding the imminent collapse of the U.S. economy to occur by September 2008 - The imminent collapse of the U.S. Government finances by February 2009 - The possibility of Civil War inside the United States as a result of the collapse - The advance round-ups of "insurgent U.S. citizens" likely to move against the government - The detention of those rounded up at REX 84 camps constructed throughout the United States - The possibility of public retaliation against members of Congress for the collapses - The location of safe facilities for members of Congress and their families to reside during massive civil unrest - the necessary and unavoidable merger of the United States with Canada and Mexico - The issuance of a new currency called the AMERO for all three nations as an economic solution. (20) Obviously, there is no documentary proof for the above as the meetings were secret. The information, however, does fit the profile of what is going on around us. Our Almighty Saviour is ultimately in charge. Time will tell if these things are so, and time is running out! NOTE: 2-14-09 1.The economy did collapse in Sept.2008,and to prevent chaos a "Bailout" of $750billion dollars was forced on Congress under threat of Martial Law and was passed.It has failed and it is a projected $8.5 Trillion Bailout to date.The people flooded their Reps with calls in opposition 1,000 to 1 against it,but it was passed.2.On Feb.13th,2009,a "stimulus" package of $787.5 Billion was passed without one person reading it.This confirms the 2nd part of the leaked information above regarding bankruptcy of the government.At this date,regardless of what transpires in the next few months,it is clear that the information leaked about that Closed Door Senate Session was and is true.Since last September,2008 articles regarding a New World Order and possible civil war and Martial Law in the USA are now in the mainstream media.Already,we are seeing riots across the globe against governments that are collapsing and experiencing the same tyrannical abuse of its people as is taking place here.There is open talk of the NAU and Amero now.There's also open talk of a coming "generated crisis" in the USA before June 2009.Over 20 States in the USA are trying to pass laws on state sovereignty to protect its rights against the Federal government when Martial Law takes place.Gun sales have gone through the roof in the past six months.It appears that the Illuminati is going to crush the US economy and thus the world's stock markets to bring in the cashless society and NWO.How many transitional phases will take place is anyone's guess.But the goal appears to be 2012.

Anonymous said...

Representative government is gone.This 30 second video says it all.... Boehner http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvnwOjDjnH4 And this last year.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7B4laX1E70 These short videos speak volumes.Far more than than the one that will be made into months long blog news.Anyone watching the takeover for years knows the Bankers have been plundering the wealth of this nation.It happened before and after 9-11.And billions have disappeared from various agencies the past 8 years.Yes,it is important news.But not nearly as big as Boehner throwing in the towel by tossing the 1,100 page Stimulus Bill on the floor.

Anonymous said...

Fema coffins http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MPgpK0uHfk Former Congressman warns of camps http://www.infowars.net/articles/february2008/210208Camps.htm America Bankrupt http://theinternationalforecaster.com/International_Forecaster_Weekly/America_Has_To_Come_To_Grips_With_The_Fact_It_Is_Bankrupt Note:As our controlled MSM embraces Socialism,we are getting warings from Putin about our loss of freedom.Unreal! http://newsguy.newsvine.com/_news/2009/02/12/2426620-putin-warns-us-about-socialsm

Anonymous said...

This looting and systematic crushing of ecomies around the world was spoken about decades ago. http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=john+todd+illuminati&hl=en&emb=0&aq=-1&oq=#

Anonymous said...

Great article by Ryter-- "A March On Washington?" http://www.newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon272.htm

Anonymous said...

Although Burris just admitted perjury today,we know he will skate if there's an investigation. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090215/ap_on_re_us/burris_blagojevich_donation

Anonymous said...

Gerald Celente is not afraid to tell the truth right in the open in the MSM.And one of the few patriots with access to the MSM without being smeared by those traitors..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DscSIE_BZFc

Anonymous said...

Maybe now you'll get what I meant about keeping the focus on Barry instead of spinning wheels and Roundtable discussions on side issues,real or planted[breaking C-Span Kanjorski revelation-now debunked] by the elitists.They know time is running out,and they have more time to set-up the Police State,and finish the destruction of the economy if sidetracking people to get them off the Usurper issue,which is worthy of daily news and exposure.Treating Barry as legitmate with voicing woes over this or that crooked turn of events in DC is turning the alarm bell off,and going back to sleep.That's why I gave an example here of more important news from last year[Closed Door House of Rep Session]than that C-Span video given such hype here.

Anonymous said...

The point being that after the Usurpation,all went back to normal playing the political pundit as if he is legitimate and thus mirroring the MSM.Staying centered on the Usurper to alert those not appraised of the facts,and spreading information that has come to pass on the takedown of the USA is paramount.

Anonymous said...

As Barry continues the Socialist Bailouts and Marxist strategies to crush this nation,the hate whitey rants are adding fuel to the fire.Besides,the racist speech at the inauguration,we now have Eric Holder bashing whites.Race wars are part of the plan when everything comes crashing down.Buchanan wrote a good article on this,and a blogger did today as well.They don't go into the communist origins of it from the 1920s,but at least state what the MSM ignores.......... Pat Buchanan- A conversation about Race- Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America . Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to. This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known. Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ‘ 60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream. Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks — with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas — to advance black applicants over white applicants. Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated their time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.

We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude???

Barack talks about new ‘ladders of opportunity’ for blacks. Let him go to Altoona ? And Johnstown , and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for ‘deserving’ white kids.? Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America ? Is it really white America ’s fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?

Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?

As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?

Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?

We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena . And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.

Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago.
http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2009/02/who-is-coward-eric-holder.html

Anonymous said...

Then you have the Hun and others retracting the Kanjorski story,but will continue to write long blogs justifying the story by calling it still valid to the looting taking place.We all know the looting has been nonstop since Sept. of last year.The Usurper is destroying the economy as fast as possible before he is ousted.

Anonymous said...

Arlen,Apuzzo could care less about Keyes unless he's going to help in the case.And Keye's didn't stand up for New when he was fighting to uphold the Constitution.If you want to help Appuzo,get ahold of Vieora or other Constitutional experts and tell them to stand up for the Constitution by helping in these cases instead of writing articles,or in Vieira's case,asking for money to work on militias which will be a moot point if the nation is destroyed before that time.What significance you find in Keye's is beyond me.You will probably discuss the sanctions issue.But as Apuzzo says,that is ridiculous,and just a plot by the Defense.Get the Constitutional experts on the show,not a person that has no more standing or pull than the rest of us.Get Ralph Epperson in contact with Apuzzo.You know he wants to help without asking for a fee.And asking about the NBC definition is covering the same ground.We all know the intent of the Framer's and are seeking to get SCOTUS to do their job and define it for Congress so they can vet Barry.

Anonymous said...

Leo Donofrio is back.Not to take on any new cases.But to educate.Hopefully he can get on better alternative media radio shows.He went on Plains Radio tonight.Sure enough,Ed Hale already came up with "Breaking News".He's got millions of dollars available through some anonymous investors that emailed him.I feel sorry for Leo.He'll be utterly discredited when Ed says he made a mistake again and it is the obots fault.

Anonymous said...

The takedown of the USA has kicked into high gear since the dual inauguration of the mystery man.. [see dual oath story and donkey story]--- http://lasttrumpetnewsletter.org/2009/03_09.html Noz recently expressed his frustations over the crisis and blogging.None of us oare perfect and we are dealing with a rotten to the core government,at least in DC.Leo never claimed to be a leader and does have the best approach at working within the law to solve this crisis.The rest of the lawyers are failing to see that after the inauguration their cases are moot.Orly is being played by the Illuminati in all this.In fact,her recent blog admits that all the cases are an exercise in futility,and the mentioning of fomenting Revolution.Then we have had to contend with opportunists discrediting matters[hopefully Ed is about to go under]--- Ed Hale
Mar 24, 09 - 10:08 AM Plains Radio is in trouble
I have just been told that our phone bill is $1182.00. I can pay this bill myself but I have decided that I am not going to. If I don't get at least 100 members to pay $10 by the 1st of April, then the phone line will be truned off and that will be the end of Plains Radio. It is now up to you to decide if you want to spend $10 to keep Plains Radio on the air. You have 2 choices, one join and pay the $10 fee or do nothing. Nothing is free in this world. Caren and I have spend $1000's of dollar keep Plains on the air. Now it is up to you if you want to keep Plains on the air.
State: Texas
Leecamp
Mar 24th, 2009 - 10:24 AM Re: Plains Radio is in trouble
We probably don't need the extra phone lines now that we don't have all the Rep's calling in at the same time. Now there is usually only one guest.
I am hitting PayPal to sign on for another month.
KC4TX
Mar 24th, 2009 - 10:44 AM Re: Plains Radio is in trouble
I have no problem paying the monthly fee. I will put thru a Paypal before the day is up.
State: TEXAS
Hummingbird
Mar 24th, 2009 - 11:03 AM Re: Plains Radio is in trouble
Hopefully the people who have the one week free trial will become members also. We all waste more than $10 per month without even realizing we are doing it. Plains Radio is an excellent source of news and information.
Let's all do our part to keep it going.
Irishgirl
Mar 24th, 2009 - 11:33 AM NOTE: Given the fact that this is a locked post the comments are by employees.Also,the move to have free chat and forum for a week was a sign that Ed knew he blew it once and for all with his greed.Yet,he never gives up.He always comes up with a new plea for money with the threat of closing up shop.
Bloggers have gone back to playing the political pundits,which only legitimizes the Usurper's presidency,as I said it would.Having said that,there is valid concerns over the Marxist agenda in all this.But it takes the focus off both Barry and the elitists that control this takedown of the USA and the takeover of the world.And without that understanding it is pointless speculating on getting new litigators and leaders.If they existed,they would've made a stand by now.Steve Pidgeon being a target for arrest by Homeland Security is likely why we have never seen his dossier.Maybe he thought all this would come out later[that is any information he uncovered] and proceeding with the internet Grand Jury would be a safer gambit for him.We know Leo came under attack,and yet he's come back to offer information while trying to remain safe.If these other people like Berg,Appuzo,Taitz,et al., were really dangerous to the elites,they would be suffering more than hacking attacks on their websites.Yes,it appears that this summer will be our proverbial "winter of discontent".Pidgeon did mention his belief that the Constitution would be destroyed by 2010.I agree.Ex Post Facto laws proposed.Forced servitude,and now there are talks of bailingout the MSM newspapers,making them non-profit organizations without the right to voice political opinions.This is biggewr than the sock puppet Barry.The Roman Senate in DC is marching lock-step with all of this.They are pushing people to revolt.The political dissent around the globe is enormous.But in the USA,the sheeple plan little tea parties and vain attempts at state sovereignty.That's why all this totalitarianism is moving at light speed.The civil unrest is desired by the Globalists.Even Ron Paul is being played,because the Fed Reserve will be restructured into a new global financial system[Mark of the Beast]....... messenger

Anonymous said...

I would also note that symbolism pays a large role in all this.The recnet moniker of one lawyer being called "Our Lady Of Liberty" is astounding.The biggest idol in the nation is the Statue Of Liberty,which was agift by French Freemasons including the masonic slogan of a "melting pot".The idol represents the Roman Lady Liberuts,and also the Whore of the French Revolution holding the torch of Illuminism.Couple that with the hidden symbolism on our dollar bill and the phrase Annuit Coeptus--Novo Ordo Seclorum [announcing the conception of the new secual order] and you can see this was planned long ago.In fact,I believe conception,instead of birth is a more proper rendering as it was conceived in 1776 by Weishaupt,but will be birthed in 2012 or sooner.......... messenger

Anonymous said...

Update from Steve Pidgeon : email from Steve Pidgeon at 10:30 pm
Ed:
I can't talk tonight. My clients are in trouble now, as they have been targetted by Snohomish County. You can't believe the police activity around here now - it's unbelievable.
Let's talk tomorrow around noon your time.
SP additiona email from Steve Pidgeon
Ed:
Apparently, HS was doing a training op with the county sheriffs and local P.D. Both me and my investigator were tailed all day and surveillance was ongoing. At one point, an armed undercover op came in where we were having lunch, and they later confirmed our whereabouts with another op on a cellphone.
Things began to roll back after WorldNetDaily reporters contacted HS about the op.
Long and the short of it - county sheriffs and local PD are working hand-in-hand with HS; they are preparing for civil disturbances, and they have targetted me as a primary target in our area.
There are new things happening now - they are targetting my clients for harassment. Looks like they have us in the crosshairs; it's time to get prepared.
Stephen Pidgeon
b Note:Apparently he's keeeping everyone updated,including Bigfoot Ed.Steve should release the dossier for his own protection.That is probably more of a concern to the goon squads than the Internet Grand Jury this summer.The takedown could occur before that time.Any information related to the mystery man should be brought out in the open.We can't rely on our policing agencies to do anything about it,but it would be of use to awaken the sheeple.

Anonymous said...

WorldNetDaily has an update on the Pidgeon story------ http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=92865

BORN IN THE USA?
Eligibility lawyer says Homeland Security shadowing him
Reports incidents involving county, federal agents

Posted: March 25, 2009
11:55 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

A lawyer spearheading the effort in Washington state to bring light to the issue of Barack Obama's eligibility to be president says he was shadowed all day today by officers with the federal Department of Homeland Security, the Snohomish County sheriff's office and the Everitt city police department.

"There's definitely observation," attorney Stephen Pidgeon told WND. "Maybe observation in anticipation of making an arrest."

Pidgeon has been the attorney for Washington state plaintiffs challenging Obama's eligibility to be president under the Constitution's demand for that office to be occupied only by a "natural born" citizen. Dozens of similar cases have been filed around the country since the election and many have been dismissed, often because judges rule the plaintiffs don't have "standing" to bring a complaint.

The Washington state case, however, cites state law that vests in citizens the right to raise questions about an elected official's authority, effectively granting standing to those plaintiffs.
The case, although it has been filed, has not been brought to court for hearings yet.

Pidgeon told WND today he contacted his personal defense attorney, and also was in contact with the Alliance Defense Fund, a national organization advocating for civil liberties and religious and personal freedoms.

Pidgeon is affiliated with the organization and told WND that there would be a letter sent inquiring about the surveillance.

He said he first became aware of the situation when his wife left their rural home early in the day and reported there were three law enforcement vehicles parked nearby, along with three black Suburban-style vehicles carrying camouflage-wearing agents, apparently from Homeland Security.

Pidgeon said he has been "outspoken" about the Obama administration and its validity due to the eligibility questions, but didn't realize he was "qualifying as an enemy of the state."

He immediately reached out to a number of individuals through e-mail.

"My only protection is to contact the people I know," he said.

Officials of the Department of Homeland Security did not return multiple WND messages seeking a comment on the situation. Officials with the Snohomish sheriff's office and the Everett city police department said they didn't know anything about it.

"Where Homeland Security is concerned, obviously there are people working for the Obama administration with little consideration for free speech," Pidgeon told WND.

He said when he left his home, he had a sheriff's vehicle "marking every turn that I made."

"There's definitely observation," he said.

"The fact of the matter is that we have taken the position and it is consistent with Orly Taitz' position that Barack Obama failed to establish his bona fides by the election on November 4," he said. "We alleged under Democratic National Committee rules he had a burden to establish to the DNC's satisfaction his eligibility. He never did.

"As a consequence the burden remains on him. He didn't meet the burden of proving his eligibility to hold the office."

He said voters cannot simply rewrite the Constitution's eligibility requirements in a presidential vote. For one thing, only 52 percent voted for Obama, and the Constitution requires approval from two-thirds of the states for an amendment.

He also cited U.S. senators and congressman who have credited the online "fact" organizations such as snopes or factcheck for authenticating Obama's eligibility.

"Any senator who would rely on snopes or factcheck to establish a judicial opinion whether or not this person has documented his eligibility is a fool," Pidgeon said. And citing a federal judge who said the issue of Obama's eligibility already had been "twittered," he said that is "tantamount to malpractice."

Several hours after Pidgeon returned WND's call, he called again.

"We are definitely under surveillance and it's coordinated with Homeland Security," he said.

He said one of his associates had been followed from his home to the law firm's downtown office, and the associate was stopped just outside the building.

"The police officer claimed he didn't have brake lights working," Pidgeon said. "But he does."

Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still want to see it, join some 350,000 others and sign up now!

WND has reported on dozens of legal challenges to Obama's status as a "natural born citizen." The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

Some of the legal challenges question whether he was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama's American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time.

Other challenges have focused on Obama's citizenship through his father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born.

Further, others question his citizenship by virtue of his attendance in Indonesian schools during his childhood and question on what passport did he travel to Pakistan three decades ago.

Adding fuel to the fire is Obama's persistent refusal to release documents that could provide answers. While his supporters cite an online version of a "Certification of Live Birth" from Hawaii, critics point out such documents actually were issued for children not born in the state.

Hawaiian officials have confirmed they have a birth certificate on file for Obama, but it cannot be released without his permission, and they have not revealed the information it contains.

John Eidsmoe, an expert on the U.S. Constitution working with the Foundation on Moral Law, told WND a demand for verification of Obama's eligibility appears to be legitimate.

Eidsmoe said it's clear that Obama has something in the documentation of his history, including his birth certificate, college records and other documents that "he does not want the public to know."

Officials for the Obama campaign repeatedly have refused to comment on the questions, relenting only once to call the concerns "garbage." .......... messenger

Anonymous said...

The individual that had lunch with Steve had this to say--- He did not get arrested - I had lunch with him to find out what the hell is/was up. Let’s just say, there is a very, very high level of in your face police activity around him, and his office building…
Before I met with Stephen for lunch, I drove out to see what was up in Snohomish, and walked up to the police building and they had a sign on the door stating that they have moved. I did see the black SUVs - but no camo clad dudes. I left - drove about a block and one of the black SUV’s started to pull out. I found myself behind a cop car, he turned off, and another one pulled in behind me and followed me to the town cut off - once I crossed the bridge, and got into Everett, a city cop pulled in behind me, and followed me to Stephens office, and pulled me over in front of his building - said I had a light out (I did) he took my license and ran it - the stop was less than a minute.
We walked over to a subway to grab a quick bite - we were tailed on each block by cops. While we were eating, a very big dude came in - I got in line behind him and could see that he had a gun in his back belt… he left, and cops kept driving back and forth in front of the subway- then a security dude came up to the window, and just stood and watch us - we finished lunch, and once again, cops on every corner - back at his building, another dude with dark glasses - I said hello, and he just nodded and smiled….
Is he just being paranoid - No, I have known him for almost 5 years now - and he is just not the type. Look, ever since I’ve been shooting off my mouth about family rights, commies suck, and this that and everything else, I’ve had people park in front of my house taking pics of me getting into my car, and taking pics of me driving my truck - It’s just another intimidation tactic that people use to stifle your Rights to speak freely…
If the pinheads really wanted to find out about me, they could just look at the 3 successful FBI background checks, or the successful ATF check… lol.
Let’s all say it unison shall we “Socialism Sucks”

Anonymous said...

Gerald Celente is lightyears ahead of the shills like Cramer or Beck that bark half truths every now and again ----- The Collapse of ’09
by Gerald Celente

The "Panic of ’08" will be followed by "The Collapse of ’09." In 2008, when the world’s largest financial firms and equity markets crumbled, Wall Street’s woes preoccupied the media.
In 2009, the focus will broaden to include a range of calamities that will leave no sector unscathed. Next in line is retail, which accounts for some 70 percent of consumer spending, 26 percent of which is holiday sales.
After the numbers are tallied to reveal a dismal retail Christmas, more big chain bankruptcies will follow. Besides leaving masses unemployed, defunct retailers will leave behind thousands of empty stores. Who will rent them? Nobody!
Add to these empties commercial space vacated by defunct financial firms and an array of troubled businesses, from restaurants to architectural firms, to high-tech operations, to offset printers, etc., etc. The inescapable result (that we predicted over a year ago and is only now being discussed in the business media) is a commercial real estate bust that will be costlier, wreak greater havoc and prove more intractable than the residential market decline.
Because most people don’t live and shop on Wall Street, the "Panic of ’08" was viewed by Main Street as if from afar – even though many were losing money. But when commercial real estate crashes, it will hit much closer to home. The depressive atmosphere of thinly shopped, half-vacant malls will strike emotional chords and all the senses.
In office buildings, vacant floors and empty cubicles will dampen the workday spirit of the still-employed; ever-present reminders of laid-off friends and colleagues and of the fragility of employment.
Abandoned, untended business and industrial parks will highlight the already mournful scene. In cities studded with soaring towers and new construction predicated on eternal economic growth, streets lined with "For Rent/For Sale" signs will complement stilled cranes and uncompleted buildings.
As retail and commercial real estate collapse, the credit card sector and all its interrelated processing and back office support businesses will suffer and be forced to scale back. Hordes of consumers who have been living off credit cards and racking up debt to the limit will lack the funds to service their debt… much less pay it off, and they will be forced to default. Given the nearly $3 trillion in consumer debt at risk (excluding auto and mortgage) an inevitable default snowball will add momentum to the in-progress Collapse of ’09.
While we alone predicted the "Panic of ’08" (and even took out the domain name "Panicof08.com" on 7 November 2007), we are not alone in predicting a Depression.
The "D" word is being uttered – in some cases by those who have the most to lose and whose best interests are not served by spreading gloom and doom. "The world and country are in a depression," said celebrity tycoon Donald Trump. He then later softened the blow, downgrading it to a "virtual depression."
"Virtual" to the few who will never have to worry where the next dollar will come from, it will be painfully real and hardly virtual to the multitudes who are and will be worrying. The virally proliferating Greatest Depression is the Trend of Trends for 2009.
Even so, beware! Over the course of free-falling 2009, the word from most official sources will be "recession," and from the few mainstream trophy pessimists, "deep recession."
For example, the oft-quoted naysayer, Nouriel Roubini, New York University professor of economics, forecasts a two-year recession … not Depression. On the sunnier side of Wall Street, the Federal Reserve predicts the US economy will contract only through the middle of 2009 and pledged, "In any event, the Committee agreed to take whatever steps were necessary to support the recovery."
What "steps"? The Bernanke Two-Step? Adjust interest rates or print more money? Neither stopped the credit crisis from worsening, the real estate market from tanking or the stock markets from crashing.
It was Fed finagling, Washington deregulation and Wall Street’s compulsive gambling that created the crisis. To trust or to seriously consider pronouncements, analyses and predictions made by any of these sources is an exercise in willful self-deception. Yet, with pensions, IRAs, 401ks, stocks and mutual funds evaporating, many of those most affected deny reality and take hope that forecasts made by proven incompetents will miraculously restore their losses.
Throughout the many years leading up to what we term the "Greatest Depression," The Trends Research Institute provided copious data and Globalnomic analysis to support our forecasts of economic upheaval. In the past year alone, we have provided so much hard evidence (housings starts, home sales, foreclosures, bankruptcies, bank failures, unemployment figures, stock indices, leading economic indicators, retail sales, etc.) that further elaboration should be superfluous.
Those waiting to hear the "D" word from economic experts, talking heads and TV anchors before taking action will most certainly regret their indecisiveness.
Absent from the economic scenarios ranging from second quarter recovery, deep recession and "virtual" depression are the multiplicity of social, environmental, health, political, emotional/psychological and geopolitical factors that point beyond just Depression. They point to The Decline and Fall of Empire America.
Well before Inauguration Day, Barack Obama was cast as the next Franklin Delano Roosevelt. If he follows in FDR’s footsteps, he could freeze deposits by declaring a "holiday" to stop a run on the banks. While FDIC insurance may cover deposits, even after banks reopen, withdrawal amounts may be restricted. (As the Argentine government did in 2001–2002.)
Author’s Note: Suspicious of the soundness of the banking system, I requested to withdraw a substantial sum from our Key Bank account, leaving funds sufficient to cover ongoing business operations. First they tried to dissuade me, then they stonewalled me, and finally they turned openly hostile.
I was forced to sign a series of documents, including one acknowledging that since I was carrying a large sum, I could be the target of a robbery. To enhance that possibility, the teller slammed down the bag of cash on the counter and publicly announced the sum.
Despite repeated requests in the days preceding my withdrawal to get the cash in hundreds, they gave it to me in twenties, making for a bag five times the size and more robber-friendly. When I complained to the bank manager who had processed the request, the response amounted to "take it or leave it."
This will not be an isolated event. If you attempt to withdraw a large chunk of money from your account, negotiate the details in advance and anticipate possible hassle and obstruction. We’ve heard similar accounts from clients and Trends Journal subscribers who, over the past several months, tried to close out mutual funds, 401ks and assorted sinking equities. They were dissuaded, cajoled, belittled and arm-twisted by brokers desperate to keep their accounts. Many caved in under the pressure, didn’t close them and lost most of what they had.
So, we leave you with a Greatest Depression consideration: How safe is your money? How sound is your bank? At the end of November, Citigroup, once America’s largest bank, was on the rocks. Fifty-two thousand employees were laid off. In just three days, its stock lost more than half its value. Rumors swirled that Citi was so desperate they were looking to sell or split up the company.
Is your money deposited in a local bank whose reputation you can bank on? Are you with a teetering giant or a poorly-managed regional? If either of the latter, it would be in your best interest to assess the risks.
Take some out if you think there is risk; take it all out if you think there’s high risk. You may consider spreading it around and even banking abroad … after all, this is the Global Age.
March 22, 2009

Anonymous said...

From canadianfreepress---- Americans Largely Silent as Their Nation is Systematically Destroyed By JB Williams 3-24-09 After trillions in taxpayer debt has been foolishly poured into the bottomless black hole of leftist wealth redistribution programs, under the guise of economic “stimulus” or “stabilization” legislation, the new “ONE World” government running Washington DC announces Geithner Bernanke call for New Wind-Down Powers,after AIG... and the people still sit silent as they watch Obamanation grow in unbridled power.Geithner asks Congress for even more power as the average American stumbles through their daily routine as if nothing is happening. Canada Free Press managing editor Judi McLeod writes No cheerleader for propping up greenbacks at G20 summit asking, “Is the table being set for One World Government rather than speeding the recovery of the worldwide recession at next week’s G20 London summit?”
Obamanation has taken the nation from a trillion in debt to over $4 trillion in debt in the first sixty days, with even more federal spending promised, which could put the nation $10 trillion in debt before the 2010 mid-term election cycle. Amnesty for illegals and ACORN led redistricting will make 2010 and beyond a moot point.

Still, beyond the movement to mail tea bags to members of congress or file another legal demand for proof of Obama’s constitutional eligibility for the office he holds, both of which are like whistling in the breeze, the people remain largely silent.

Threatened with a Soup Line Existence
The American people would never trade personal freedom for the false promise of federally redistributed free-stuff under some ill-fated socialist experiment, unless they were first threatened with a soup line existence.

And so it shall be… 50% of their life savings and 30% of their home values have already evaporated into thin air. National unemployment is driving towards double digits as home foreclosures continue to mound.

With their backs against the wall, confused by a daily diet of media manipulated headlines aimed at scaring the public into submission, convinced that our nation’s complex woes demand a solution far too complicated for the average peasant to comprehend, the people find themselves in a state of terminal paralysis.

Incompetent Evil in Charge
The same people responsible for the many disasters now surrounding every American household, were elected in 2006 and 2008 to fix what they broke. Instead of reversing course and placing their faith in the principles of freedom, they are are installing the same policies that created the problem and they are doing so at a fever pace.

The folks currently in charge of the nation don’t like anything at all about the nation that once was. They have a very different vision for America, one based on redistribution of free-stuff, not equal access to freedom.

At the foundation of personal freedom is the right to make your own decisions, invest and risk your own capital, own your own property and keep that which you are willing to work and sacrifice to earn. It’s called economic freedom, aka capitalism.

But capitalism is public enemy #1 in America today, thanks to decades of class warfare and the art of division via social envy, all for purpose of political gain.

Life, Liberty and the right to individually define and pursue Happiness has been replaced with the right of some to take from others against their will, in the name of a greater common good, better defined as the entitlement mentality.

The Change Agents New World Dictionary
Old concepts have been redefined. Capitalism is now referred to as Fascism. Personal ambition is now called greed. Those who seek access to other people’s rightful earnings are called charitable, and those who demand a right to only that, which they earn, are called greedy.

It isn’t just the words that have new definitions. The concepts have new meaning as a result.

Words like socialism and communism no longer have a negative connotation attached to them. Most Americans have no idea what they are anymore, or why they don’t want to find out the hard way.

The concept of liberal interpretations limits the meaning of words only to one’s individual imagination. The Constitution means only what someone imagines it to mean. If the shoe doesn’t quite fit, a new definition will solve the problem.

What are Americans Waiting For?
I don’t know what it will take to wake up the average American, but whatever it is, it hasn’t happened yet…

The people currently stocking up on food, water, guns and ammo in record numbers, causing shortages in all the above at the retail level, are clearly awake and anticipating something, but what? Meet the “extremists...”

The people still trying to get a court somewhere in America to hear the arguments concerning the most secretive corrupt president in US history, have been awake for a long time. Meet the “birthers...” But they continue to have trouble waking anyone else up, including in the so-called halls of justice.

Is it a bankrupt dollar and a new international currency that will get their attention? - A North American Union? - An ACORN Army on their doorstep? What will be the final straw that breaks the proverbial camel’s back?

I don’t have the answer… Frankly, I expected the people to revolt long before now. Clearly, I had underestimated the depth of apathy and tolerance for anti-American nonsense in the average modern American. But then, so did our nation’s founders, whom I’m certain are rolling over in their graves in disgust by now.

The Silent Consent Continues
Nobody knows for how long or at what expense, but so far, the people remain silent and Washington continues to profitably interpret that silence as broad-based consent.

At this late date, I have no idea what will wake up the average American or how they might react once finally awake and ready to engage in self-governance. However, I am sure about two things…

When they finally do awake, they are going to be really angry…
And, the anti-American left won’t let up until then…

The clock isn’t just ticking. Time has already run out as of the 2008 election. Washington DC is currently dismantling America, individual right by individual right, in an unprecedented massive multi-faceted assault on all things American. If you are not familiar with the Democratic Socialists for America or their legislative branch the Congressional Progressive Caucus I strongly suggest that you take time to learn them well. They are in charge of your nation. This is who the average American is up against and they are a very well funded and organized enemy of the state.

You will not be able to take your country back without putting these two organizations out of business. The longer you wait, the tougher the battle, the higher the price.

Clearly, the organizational skills of the average American are equal only to that of the stumbling bumbling Republican Party. Fragmented, distracted and disorganized, the people are no match for the leftist juggernaut running roughshod in DC.

The people are lost, so they are losing… The most complex problems require the simplest of solutions. But the average American is so baffled by a daily diet of elitist B.S., that they cannot even see daylight… – When all else fails, return to the basics!

Here’s to the average American waking up in time! - Good luck!

Note: How very true.Not only are the masses dumbed down,but they play the same game after each betrayal in DC.Talking about left vs. Right,voting out the bums come next election and so and so forth.The difference this time around is that there will no next time around.Freedom is about to vanish in the USA,and around the world in the very near future.....messenger

Anonymous said...

Steve Pidgeon's interview tonight didn't answer the questions we've all been asking of him for months.He never released the dossier or gave any useful information. The article below is one he probably read.Fife has been on radio shows lately.--- The First Time I
Heard Of Barack
By Tom Fife
11-20-8

During the period of roughly February 1992 to mid 1994, I was making frequent trips to Moscow, Russia, in the process of starting a software development joint-venture company with some people from the Russian scientific community. One of the men in charge on the Russian side was named V. M.; he had a wife named T.M.

V. was a level-headed scientist while his wife was rather deeply committed to the losing Communist cause - a cause she obviously was not abandoning.

One evening, during a trip early in 1992, the American half of our venture were invited to V. & T.'s Moscow flat as we were about to return to the States. The party went well and we had the normal dinner discussions.

As the evening wore on, T. developed a decidedly rough anti-American edge - one her husband tried to quietly rein in.

The bottom line of the tirade she started against the United States went something like this:

"You Americans always like to think that you have the perfect government and your people are always so perfect. Well then, why haven't you had a woman president by now? You had a chance to vote for a woman vice-president and you didn't do it."

The general response went something along the lines that you don't vote for someone just because of their sex. Besides, you don't vote for vice-president, but the president and vice-president as a ticket.

"Well, I think you are going to be surprised when you get a black president very soon."

The consensus we expressed was that we didn't think there was anything innately barring that. The right person at the right time and sure, America would try to vote for the right person, be he or she black or not.

"What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a Communist?"

The out-of-the-blue remark was met by our stares. She continued, "Well, you will; and he will be a Communist."

It was then that the husband unsuccessfully tried to change the subject; but she was on a roll and would have nothing of it. One of us asked, "It sounds like you know something we don't know."

"Yes, it is true. This is not some idle talk. He is already born and he is educated and being groomed to be president right now. You will be impressed to know that he has gone to the best schools of Presidents. He is what you call "Ivy League". You don't believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack. His mother is white and American and his father is black from Africa. That's right, a chocolate baby! And he's going to be your President."

She became more and more smug as she presented her stream of detailed knowledge and predictions so matter-of-factly - as though all were foregone conclusions. "It's all been thought out. His father is not an American black so he won't have that social slave stigma. He is intelligent and he is half white and has been raised from the cradle to be an atheist and a Communist. He's gone to the finest schools. He is being guided every step of the way and he will be irresistible to America."

We sat there not knowing what to say. She was obviously very happy that the Communists were doing this and that it would somehow be a thumbing of their collective noses at America: they would give us a black president and he'd be a Communist to boot. She made it quite obvious that she thought that this was going to breathe new life into world Communism. From this and other conversations with her, she always asserted that Communism was far from dead.

She was full of little details about him that she was eager to relate. I thought that maybe she was trying to show off that this truly was a real person and not just hot air.

She rattled off a complete litany. He was from Hawaii. He went to school in California. He lived in Chicago. He was soon to be elected to the legislature. "Have no doubt: he is one of us, a Soviet."

At one point, she related some sort of San Francisco connection, but I didn't understand what the point was and don't recall much about that. I was just left with the notion that she considered the city to be some sort of a center for their activity here.

Since I had dabbled in languages, I knew a smattering of Arabic. I made a comment: "If I remember correctly, 'Barack' comes from the Arabic word for 'Blessing.' That seems to be an odd name for an American." She replied quickly, "Yes. It is 'African'", she insisted, "and he will be a blessing for world Communism. We will regain our strength and become the number one power in the world."

She continued with something to the effect that America was at the same time the great hope and the great obstacle for Communism. America would have to be converted to Communism and Barack was going to pave the way.

So, what does this conversation from 1992 prove?

Well, it's definitely anecdotal. It doesn't prove that Obama has had Soviet Communist training nor that he was groomed to be the first black American president, but it does show one thing that I think is very important. It shows that Soviet Russian Communists knew of Barack from a very early date. It also shows that they truly believed among themselves that he was raised and groomed Communist to pave the way for their future. This report on Barack came personally to me from one of them long before America knew he existed.

Although I had never before heard of him, at the time of this conversation Obama was 30+ years old and was obviously tested enough that he was their anticipated rising star.
Note: But people still get excited every time these lawyers on on shows...... messenger

Anonymous said...

I'm familiar with the Tom Fife article regarding Barack Obama being predicted as president by a communist Russian and frankly, I think it's baloney, for one reason and one reason only.

If Tom Fife had such an interesting story to tell, why did he wait until after the elections to tell it?

He can't really call it a prediction after it's fact, so making up a past-tense fairy tale must have been the next best thing.

I have absolutely no love or like for Obama, but this type of stuff is what I call, "off the wall".

Anonymous said...

Sackcloth and ashes,and true repentance are the answers,but sadly we will not see that type of faith from the leaders of nations evr again-- "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." 2 Chronicles 7:14

Anonymous said...

Yes,I agree about the Fife article.The point by citing it was simply that Pidgeon didn't offer any meat in that interview,and what he did say was not anything new,which is what was expected from the money he received a few months ago.It wasn't designated for his lawsuit or personla expenses..... messenger

Anonymous said...

It should be noted that there is no question about Barry being a Marxist.That is well-documented and is being reported here on this blog in an ongoing fashion.It isn't a theory.This guy is so bad that even the compromising politicians in DC are declining appointments.He has a bunch of criminals surrounding him...messenger

Gort said...

Arlen,I want to give the readers one example of why the Constitution is being spit upon by our appointed and elected officials and why SCOTUS has been silent before,during,and after the election,even though they are cognizant of the Constituional crisis we are in at this juncture.I've seen Leo grow tremendously over the past few months because he has come to accept that conspiracies are real.Most of my posts to him were in private and I held back on issues until he would post something that told me he was ready for more information.And then I'd elaborate and direct him to older posts that were in the open.He even came to understand my Carnival Barker post,when at first he repied to "cut the crap".Anyway,there are hundreds of reasons and events in history to explain these matters,but just one example is the APA Act of 1946.There are so many violations of the Constitution that it is clear that this Barry Usurpation doesn't phase these traitors at all.So,instead of going over mirror State's Cons and new US Cons with slight changes in qualifers,modifiers,articles,phrases,and Amendments I'll just list the violations from the APA Act to give the readers an outstanding expample of treason at the highest levels.----------- The Unconstitutional Administrative Procedure Act & Dictatorial Tyranny in the U.S.
The Administrative Procedure Act (APA) of 1946, now U.S.C.A. §§ 501 et seq., governs the way in which administrative 'agencies' of the government invent and enforce 'regulations'. Pursuant to APA, these 'agencies' claim to have the authority to legislate, adjudicate and enforce their rules and regulations, effectively creating a separate non-representative government completely outside the control of the voter and citizen.

Roosevelt, who was largely part of the problem stated that the APA "threatens to develop a fourth branch of government for which there is no sanction in the Constitution."

The Administrative Procedure Act, according to many political experts of the day, and still to this day, established the groundwork for tyranny and dictatorship in the United States: Foster H. Sherwood, University of California, writing about The Federal Administrative Procedure Act for The American Political Science Review, Vol. 41, No. 2,in April, 1947, hit the nail on the head when he stated:

The administrative process is essentially dangerous in that it ignores the traditional American theory of the separation of powers, a principal protection against tyranny and dictatorship in the United Slates.

The administrative process is frequently unfair since it permits the functions of prosecutor and judge to be discharged by the same individual.

Established after the Federal Reserve Bank caused the Great Depression and World War's, while America was exceptionally vulnerable, APA literally created formal dictatorial private agencies that control every aspect of the nation.

Although a number of administrative agencies had been created during the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, no federal 'law' at the time governed the conduct of these agencies. The agents were entirely subject to the highest laws of the land, the Constitution and Common Law. In 1936, President Franklin D. Roosevelt formed a 'President's Committee on Administrative Management'. The Committee's report found that these government agencies were "irresponsible" and that they had been given "uncoordinated powers." Moreover, the report characterized administrative agencies as a "headless 'fourth branch' of government.". So Roosevelt formalized their existence.

Eleven Federal government departments existed prior to Lincoln's Morrill Tax War in the 1860's (Incorrectly referred to as the Civil War). Between 1865 and 1900, six additional agencies were created. Seventeen additional agencies were created in the early 1900 before 1930 and eighteen more were established as part of Roosevelt's 'New Deal' during the 1930's. At the time of enactment of the APA, there were nineteen executive departments and eighteen independent agencies, the number of immediately increased to over fifty federal agencies. The IRS, FDA, Homeland Security, FCC, APS, CPS, SEC, etc. are examples of the treason established under the APA.

Perhaps most ironically, employees of this non-representative APA government take an oath to uphold the Constitution. Clearly none of these traitors to the people and Constitution ever bother to read the Constitution.

The APA in section 551(1) defines an "agency" as "each authority of the Government of the United States, whether or not it is within or subject to review by another agency". These 'Agencies' are unique governmental bodies, exercising powers characteristic of all three branches of the United States federal government: judicial, legislative and executive. These Agencies completely ignore the Constitutional mandates for due process and trials, replacing the law of the land with "inspections, conferences and negotiations" conducting their own prosecution, hearings, adjudication, orders and punishment.

The following extract directly from APA U.S.C.A, illustrates the extraordinary treasonous nature and construct of the Administrative Policies Act. APA literally hands all government functions to the dictatorial whim and control of the 'agencies' who are completely outside the control of we the people:

PART I - THE AGENCIES GENERALLY, CHAPTER 5, SUBCHAPTER II - ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURE, §551. Definitions.
For the purpose of this subchapter -

(1) ''agency'' means each authority of the Government of the United States, whether or not it is within or subject to review by another agency, but does not include -

(A) the Congress;

(B) the courts of the United States;

(C) the governments of the territories or possessions of the United States;

(D) the government of the District of Columbia; or except as to the requirements of section 552 of this title

(E) agencies composed of representatives of the parties or of representatives of organizations of the parties to the disputes determined by them;

(F) courts martial and military commissions;

(G) military authority exercised in the field in time of war or in occupied territory; or

(H) functions conferred by sections 1738, 1739, 1743, and 1744 of title 12; chapter 2 of title 41; subchapter II of chapter 471 of title 49; or sections 1884, 1891-1902, and former section 1641(b)(2), of title 50, appendix;

(2) ''person'' includes an individual, partnership, corporation, association, or public or private organization other than an agency;

(3) ''party'' includes a person or agency named or admitted as a party, or properly seeking and entitled as of right to be admitted as a party, in an agency proceeding, and a person or agency admitted by an agency as a party for limited purposes;

(4) ''rule'' means the whole or a part of an agency statement of general or particular applicability and future effect designed to implement, interpret, or prescribe law or policy or describing the organization, procedure, or practice requirements of an agency and includes the approval or prescription for the future of rates, wages, corporate or financial structures or reorganizations thereof, prices, facilities, appliances, services or allowances therefor or of valuations, costs, or accounting, or practices bearing on any of the foregoing;

(5) ''rule making'' means agency process for formulating, amending, or repealing a rule;

(6) ''order'' means the whole or a part of a final disposition, whether affirmative, negative, injunctive, or declaratory in form, of an agency in a matter other than rule making but including licensing;

(7) ''adjudication'' means agency process for the formulation of an order;

(8) ''license'' includes the whole or a part of an agency permit, certificate, approval, registration, charter, membership, statutory exemption or other form of permission;

(9) ''licensing'' includes agency process respecting the grant, renewal, denial, revocation, suspension, annulment, withdrawal, limitation, amendment, modification, or conditioning of a license;

(10) ''sanction'' includes the whole or a part of an agency -

(A) prohibition, requirement, limitation, or other condition affecting the freedom of a person;

(B) withholding of relief;

(C) imposition of penalty or fine;

(D) destruction, taking, seizure, or withholding of property;

(E) assessment of damages, reimbursement, restitution, compensation, costs, charges, or fees;

(F) requirement, revocation, or suspension of a license; or

(G) taking other compulsory or restrictive action;

(11) ''relief'' includes the whole or a part of an agency -

(A) grant of money, assistance, license, authority, exemption, exception, privilege, or remedy;

(B) recognition of a claim, right, immunity, privilege, exemption, or exception; or

(C) taking of other action on the application or petition of, and beneficial to, a person;



There is probably no other Act that more completely violates the Constitution and lawful construct of government in the U.S. APA violates almost every paragraph of the Constitution:

Listing the complete violations of the Consultation by the Administrative Policies Act:
Violation of Article. I. Section. 1: "All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives." - The APA authorizes individuals and agencies to legislate and make law outside of Congress.

Violation of Article I, Section 2: "Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States" - The APA authorizes un-apportioned taxes.

Violation of Article I, Section. 7. "All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives" - the APA authorizes agencies that are not the House of Representatives to raise revenue.

Violation of Article I, Section 7: "Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States;[3] If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it." - The APA allows agencies to make law completely outside of the government!

Violation of Article I, Section. 8. "The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States" - The APA authorizes agencies outside the formal U.S. government to lay and collect NON UNIFORM taxes, duties, imposts and exercises, to pay debts and provide for the common undermining of the Defense of citizens, and establishing tyranny in the U.S.

Violation of Article I, Section 8: "To borrow Money on the credit of the United States" - the APA authorizes a government outside of the U.S. government to borrow money on the credit of the United States.

Violation of Article I, Section 8: "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes" - APA assumes a right to regulate commerce within the States which is not a part of or authority granted under the Constitution. The regulation of commerce referred to in the Constitution relates to commerce crossing borders, which may not be taxed "No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State." - Article I, Section 9, and an regulation of commerce is further limited "No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken." - Article I, Section 9. The APA sets up agencies outside of Congress that not only regulate commerce with foreign Nations, the Several States and Indian Tribes and within the States themselves, these agencies literally invade and occupy foreign Nations, States and Tribal Lands. Furthermore agencies such as the CIA are the largest drug peddling organizations in the world! Departments of motor vehicles even claim to have a right to license the explicit right to travel. Rights are rights, they are not privileges.

Violation of Article I, Section 8: "To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures". Although the 'Federal Reserve Bank Act' was unlawfully passed in 1913 and is the root cause of the passage of the APA since the Fed was utilized to initiate and propagate the Great Depression and World Wars, the APA in effect, also attempts to endorse the private company, the Federal Reserve Bank, which makes money and regulates the value there of. Although, it should be noted that the Fed does not 'coin' money, they print it and enter it into their computers at will.

Violation of Article I, Section 8: "To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States" - Congress, according to this Article is responsible for Punishment of counterfeiting the securities and coin of the U.S. which according to this Article of the Constitution, Congress is to carry out by calling forth the Militia "To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union" - Article I, Section 8. However, the FBI, which, according to the APA § 551 (1) (A) does not include the Congress, punishes people who counterfeit U.S. coin and securities. The establishment of agencies like the FBI and CIA violates the Constitution and builds armies outside the control of we the people. The latest extra-terrestrial government actions is to simply hire mercenaries like Black Water to commit crimes against people around the world in the name of the U.S. government.

Violation of Article I, Section 8: "To establish Post Offices and post Roads" - Article I of the Constitution defines Congress' responsibilities. The APA establishes agencies outside the control of Congress to establish Post Offices and Roads, they have even sold the Post Office to the Rothschild's. (One must ask what these agencies outside the U.S. government do with the billions of dollars they collect when they sell things like the people's Post Offices or the radio waves).

Violation of Article I, Section 8: "To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court" - the APA simply sets up it's own tribunals, laws, adjudication, order and punishment for these independent agencies outside the control of Congress and we the people. Furthermore, it should be noted that the judiciary, themselves have jumped in on the feeding frenzy and they too simply establish their own tribunals to monitor themselves such as the Judicial Nominations Committees. However, perhaps the most interesting and outrageous judicial act was the judiciary inventing 'infractions' or 'tickets' which are bills of attainder made payable to the very court the judge mugging the public works for. Was the judiciary's treason in this regard a consequence of the APA handing the same powers to agencies?

Violation of Article I, Section 8: "To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water" - Agencies such as the CIA themselves declare war and make their own rules concerning captures on land and water, committing atrocities in the name of the U.S. even violating the Geneva Convention and torturing their victims. Further developments in this area is the government funding private mercenaries such as Black Water to do the same.

Violation of Article I, Section 8: "To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years" - The APA agency, the CIA, raises and supports armies completely outside the control of Congress and they have been doing this for decades.

Violation of Article I, Section 8: "To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces" - Under the Constitution Congress is responsible for making rules for the government, the APA takes this responsibility from Congress and hands it to agencies outside of Congress and the government.

Violation of Article I, Section 8: "To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions" - The APA completely bypasses Congress and the people's Militia to establish their own private armies and agencies to execute the Laws of the Union. The APA effectively establishes insurrection of the government and invades the Nation. The Militia is responsible for executing the laws of the Union not the FBI, CIA, CPS, APS, FCC, SEC or any other 'private' agency.

Violation of Article I, Section 8: "To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings" - The Constitution is not ambiguous, Congress exclusively has legislative power over Federal land, however, agencies like the DMV, FBI etc. exercise legislation over Federal jurisdictions. Congress is set aside by the APA.

Violation of Article I, Section 8: "To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof." - The APA removes exclusive law-making from Congress and hands it to departments, offices and agencies established by the executive office and the judiciary or even County Boards of Supervisors. The Administrative Policies Act effectively eliminates Congress and it's exclusive law-making right. Presidents make law with Executive Orders, the Judiciary makes law from the bench by claiming they have a right to interpret law to mean whatever they say it means. These scores of APA agencies make their own laws, rules, regulations, licenses, fines, fees, punishments and they seize what they want. Clearly the APA is the most unconstitutional Act ever passed, it invades and destroys the United States of America, any individual working for an APA agency is involved in armed insurrection against the United States of America - ironically they take oath's to uphold the Constitution!

Violation of Article I, Section 9: "The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it." - The APA sets up a judicial system that is completely outside the control of Constitutional law, these agencies have their own courts, rules and laws, their employees probably do not even know what a Writ of Habeas Corpus is. APA sets aside the privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus and establishing a government outside of government and a judicial system without any checks and balances. Agencies such as the IRS make their own arrests, they have their own courts, they make their own laws, literally going as far as proclaiming 'guilty until proven innocent' as their modus operandi. The IRS which has absolutely no lawful authority what so ever to collect taxes is a government to itself and a criminal enterprise far worse than the Italian Mob. The APA is no only utterly unconstitutional, it is treasonous and an invasion of everything the Constitution stands for, the APA is tyranny and dictatorship defined.

Violation of Article I, Section 9: "No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed". Almost all APA agencies pass bill of attainders and ex post facto laws. Tickets and fines are their means of mugging the public. These tickets and fines amount to bills of attainder assuming guilt of the victim and the prosecution of non-crimes.

Violation of Article I, Section 9: "No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken" - the APA establishes agencies who themselves invent direct tax and capitations to levy un-proportionally against we the people. Frankly, it is astonishing that the U.S. citizens could allow themselves to be so utterly screwed without rising up against these criminal enterprises who call themselves the IRS, FBI, CIA, CPS, APS, SEC, FCC etc. The APA has built dictatorial agencies that are armed to the teeth while they consistently attempt to disarm the public and lay capitation and other direct taxes on the people.

Violation of Article I, Section 9: "No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State." - Agencies such as the Franchise Tax Board and other agencies violate this Constitutional mandate every day. This government attempts to tax Internet transactions.

Violation of Article I, Section 9: "No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another; nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another." - Try shipping alcohol or cigarettes across State lines which pursuant to the Constitution prohibits any tax or control on these or any goods. If you purchase a vehicle in another State, the vehicle is from another State, pursuant to the Constitution, and the government or any agency may not force the owner to pay any duty or registration fee on the vehicle. The APA sets up agencies that violate this Constitutional manage by forcing vessels to clear and pay duties when they are from another State.

Violation of Article I, Section 9: "No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time." - The APA establishes agencies that raise revenue, however, these agencies keep their own accounts outside of the Treasury! They are government's all to themselves, without consequence of any law other than what they make up themselves! Furthermore these agencies act in secret and cover up what they do with the money they collect. Try and find out what happens to expenditures and revenue these agencies collect, the Constitution dictates the government regularly publish their accounts, however like the thieves, they are they keep everything in the dark.

Violation of Article I, Section 9: "No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State" - Does the APA recognize the British Accreditation Registry, the 'State' BAR? Is the BAR considered a part of the 'agencies' that are authorized to adjudicate, prosecute and punish under the APA, or is the BAR a foreign entity to itself? Regardless, the BAR who's members loose citizenship pursuant to the 13th Amendment and Article 1, Section 9 and 10 of the Constitution, violate the Constitution by swearing allegiance to the British Accreditation Registry and by taking on the title 'Esquire'.

Violation of Article I, Section 10: "No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility." - The APA 'authorizes' agencies outside of the government to pass and issue bills of attainder in the form of fines, tickets and penalties. APA allows these agencies and '4th branche of government' to emit bills of credit, to make law impairing the obligation of contracts, and to make ex post fact law.

Violation of Article 1, Section 10: "No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports" - The APA establishes agencies that without the consent of Congress lay imposts and duties on imports and exports. These agencies are attempting to tax purchases made from one State to another over Internet.

Violation of Article 1, Section 10: "all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul of the Congress" - The APA takes revision and control of laws and hands them to private agencies, completely violating the Constitution and establishing dictatorial powers to agencies that are not only outside the control of Congress, they are completely outside the control of we the people.

Violation of Article 1, Section 10: "No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay." - The APA establishes private agencies that have their own Troops in time of Peace such as the FBI and CIA who also enter into Agreements and compacts with foreign Powers and engage in War when not invaded. The government is taking this even further instead of these government agencies, they are now hiring, with tax payer funds, private mercenaries such as Black Water to invade and occupy foreign Nations. This government is as bad, if not worse than the other Rothschild's funded former governments such as Hitler's Nazi Germany and Stalin's USSR. It is only a matter of time before this government will wage war against their own people with the use of private armies like Black Water. The government has even imported foreign troops into the U.S. for this very purpose and constructed concentration camps across the nation to carry out their New World Order plans. This is not our government, the APA sets up dictatorial and tyrannical powers outside of the government. The APA is not only unconstitutional it is high treason.


What is astonishing is that Americans have put up with this APA insanity and compete and absolute violation of the law embodied in the Constitution for six decades!

To suggest that the Administrative Policies Act is Constitutional, one would have to be retarded, or more likely be a criminal benefitting from one of these criminal agencies who act under the color of law. It is astonishing that this is literally what is going on in Government in the United States. No wonder the U.S. is the Worlds Worst Prison State, no wonder the people are being forced to work six to eight months of their year to pay the employees of these agencies.

Are independent agencies who assume the authority to make their own law and enforce it along with fines, licenses and the seizure of citizens property and citizens liberty something we the people should in the least bit tolerate? The Constitution in Article 1, Section 8 dictates: "To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions". We don't even have a Militia any more to enforce the law.

Do Administrative Agencies claiming legislative, judicial and administrative power under the Administrative Policies Act amount to anything les than insurrection and the invasion of the U.S.?
Now that is just one act of treason that has brought us to the door of serfdom.Some other examples are given in my posts here.So, if Orly or the other lawyers get anywhere it will be by Illuminati plan and design.Because the only proper way to do this is as Leo stated in his QW Legal Brief.No piggybacking of issues at all.I will point out that things are so bad and we are so close to civil war and revolution that perhaps Orly is doing all she can without ulterior motives.She did motivate others to get the citizen's Grand Jury ball rolling,which Pidgeon has not done thus far. .............. messenger p.s. ny post on these lawyers and donate buttons is in the open at Leo's blog under the GI Joe blog,though my moniker is listed as "Carnival Barker".

Anonymous said...

Foof for thought.Article from degendusx..... messenger Obama - Indonesian Muslim Roots
by DefendUSx April 01, 2009 10:09
In 1966 or 1967 Ann Dunham marries Indonesian Muslim Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo (1936-1987), who she had met at the University of Hawaii. By birth, Soetoro was Malaysian, but he had lived in Indonesia most of his life. Soon after his marriage to Dunham, Soetoro returns, alone, to Indonesia. Obama and Dunham later move to Indonesia to join Soetoro, probably in 1967. Soetoro then adopts Obama, whose name is changed to Barry Soetoro. Elementary school records in Indonesia list Obama’s name as Barry Soetoro, his religion as Islam, and his citizenship as Indonesian. While in Jakarta, Obama attends Franciscus Primary School (1967-1969) and Besuki State Elementary School Menteng 01 (1969-1971).

Interestingly, while in the third grade in Indonesia, Obama writes an essay saying he wants to become president. Perhaps as a foreshadowing of future questions about his status as a natural born citizen of the United States and the constitutionally relevant issue of divided loyalties, Obama includes in his essay the remark that he is not sure of “what country” he would like to be President. In fact, he wrote, “I want to be a president” rather than, “I want to be the president,” according to his teacher, Fermina Katarina Sinaga.

Lolo Soetoro had been an official of the Director General’s office in the TNI Topograohy division of the Indonesian Army. He later becomes an executive with American Mobil Corporation, where he is a key liaison between the oil company and the Suharto regime. Suharto had been “installed” as the American friendly Indonesian President in 1967, after a CIA-engineered 1965-1967 coup that deposed President Sukarno – who was considered soft on communism and a threat to American oil interests. Strangely, the leftist Ann Dunham, who would have been more politically sympathetic to the deposed Sukarno, marries Soetoro, a man with ties to the bloodthirsty dictator Suharto. [615,842 p. 29]

Obama practices Islam half-heartedly while in Indonesia, irregularly attending prayer services at the mosque. According to one of his Indonesian school principals, Tine Hahiyary, the young Obama studied “Mangaji” (or “Mengagi”), which involves the recitation of the Quran (or Koran). Note that Mangaji, in Indonesian schools, requires learning to recite the Quran in the Arabic language, and not the student’s native tongue. Non-Muslims or even moderate Muslims would not send their child to Mangaji classes. Mangaji is much more involved than a Christian child attending “Sunday School” classes. Obama likely was taught to read and write in Arabic, to recite from the Quran, and study the laws of Islam. (In his book, “Dreams From my Father,” Obama relates that “In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Koranic studies.”) Although Obama may insist he was never a Muslim, many Indonesians wonder why Obama is hiding his Muslim past. Former classmate Emirsyah Satar (now CEO of Garuda Indonesia) states that Obama “…was quite religious in Islam but only after marrying Michelle, he changed his religion.”

A former classmate of Obama in Indonesia, Rony Amiris, describes Obama as having enjoyed football, playing marbles, and being a very devout Muslim. Amir states, “Barry was previously quite religious in Islam.” Classmate Emirsyah Satar relates that Obama “was often in the prayer room wearing a sarong.” Obama is frequently observed in the school’s prayer room and at the local mosque for traditional Friday prayers. (Obama’s official campaign web site states that “Obama has never been a Muslim, and is a committed Christian. Obama never prayed in a mosque. He has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian who attends the United Church of Christ.”)

Publicly, Obama denies he ever was a Muslim and claims he is a devout Christian. (Obama also alleges he was never in church when his pastor of 20 years, Reverend Jeremiah Wright, was spewing anti-white and anti-American rhetoric in his sermons.) Many, if not most, of the world’s Muslims feel that “Obama may not want to be counted as a Muslim, but Muslims are eager to count him as one of their own.” If Obama is seen by radical Islamists as someone who denounced the Muslim religion to become a Christian, his background can be exploited to “argue that an apostate is leading the war on terror…” which can then help terrorists “…galvanize (additional) sympathizers into action.” But many Muslims may not care that Obama professes to be a Christian if his policies are pro-Muslim and anti-Israel. (Muslims are permitted to lie when it furthers the cause of Islam.)

Obama was purportedly legally adopted by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro, which made Obama an Indonesian citizen, according to Indonesian law. Because Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship, Obama thus lost his U.S. citizenship when he became an Indonesian citizen, in or about 1967. At that point Obama also ceased to be a Kenyan citizen, according to both Indonesian and Kenyan law. Indonesian law would also have required Ann Dunham to renounce her U.S. citizenship for her marriage to Lolo Soetoro to have been considered legal. If, after Obama returned to Hawaii, he applied for and was granted American citizenship, he would be a naturalized citizen (like California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger) and not a natural born citizen, and would therefore be ineligible to serve as President of the U.S. It is possible that Obama did not even bother to become a naturalized citizen of the United States, and remains an Indonesian citizen even today. Appropriate federal records would exist if Obama made application for naturalization. If they exist, they have not been made public.

Indonesia’s policy of not allowing dual citizenship must be respected by the United States in accordance with the Hague Convention of 1930. Further, Obama, as a child, was not required to personally renounce his U.S. citizenship – that would have been an automatic result of his adoption by Lolo Soetoro.

According to Indonesian legal experts, it is extremely difficult for non-Indonesian citizens to enroll in public schools in that country. That was especially true during the 1960s, when Indonesia was a police state, and Indonesian immigration employees and the police performed weekly checks on public schools to confirm citizenship compliance. This further supports the assumption that Obama was adopted by Soetoro. (Some argue that he was not adopted by Soetoro.) Obama’s half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, has stated that Obama was adopted by their father, Lolo Soetoro. Maya Soetoro-Ng, who was born in Indonesia, has a Hawaiian birth registration, and is a naturalized American citizen. (It is illogical to argue that Obama’s short form Hawaiian certificate of legal birth proves he was born in the United States when his half-sister has the same document and was born in Indonesia.)

Indonesia today still does not allow dual citizenship. Under Indonesia law, once Obama became a naturalized citizen by virtue of adoption, he could not lose that status without relinquishing his citizenship in writing, under oath. If he did that, the government of Indonesia would have those records. If he did not do so by age 21, Obama is to this day still an Indonesian citizen. His place of birth or the nationality of his mother is irrelevant; Indonesian law takes precedence under “The Master Nationality Rule of Article 4 of the Hague Convention on 1930.” The United States accepts dual nationality only if the other country does; Indonesia does not.

Obama’s half-sister, Maya Soetoro, is born in Indonesia on August 15, 1970.

Anonymous said...

With regards to Leo's condemnation of the Citizen's Grand Jury I have this to say : Leo is correct.I believe far too many lawyers are governing their actions based on emotions and not on the rule of law.This has nothing to do with Leo’s or anoyone elses opinions on the matter.Nor does this have to do with what is fair or ethical.Americans became enemies of the government in 1933.And we lost or “standing” in most cases for the right to petition for redress of grievances in 1946.Sure,we can file all the petitions and lawsuits we desire.But that is not going to change reality.The last shot at justice has to be done in the only legal way left to us.I challenge anyone to go over the musings of all these lawyers,and you’ll see that they are citing laws,amendments,and precedent cases that have no bearing whatsoever with regards to the constitutional crisis we are enduring.The law is indeed a cold mistress.The lawyers in the limelight are being reeled into the Globalist fishtrap.While our sovereignty is being destroyed,and we are moving into the NAU and shortly thereafter a ten region NWO,this issue will be settled once and for all.The only question is-”Will the people fight back and reclaim the Republic by using existing laws to solve this crisis,or let the country fall by following celebrity lawyers into the Abyss?”........ messenger

Anonymous said...

Leo Donfrio's latest post--- http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/two-us-postal-receipts-for-letters-to-us-attorney-taylor/ He makes a good point about proactive measures to motivate Taylor.It's obvious that this issue should've been heard on its merits long ago.And there has been corruption involved in protecting Barry.But the point is that if the citizens of this nation truly want this settled,there should be millions or at least hundreds of thousand of us writing to Taylor.And marches as well.The WND campaign was a good direction in that regards,but it was only one organized letter writing campaign in this nation.Many people think there are several ways to skin a cat.But how many of these lawyers have laid there cases out in detail proving their lawsuits have solid legal grounds,and not playing on emotions that they should be heard ny the courts?The biggest problem we have is lack of education on Constitutional matters and law.
But time is running out.I fully understand the frustrations of citizens tired of the corruption in DC.And we are at the point where the solution within the the judical system is coming to an end.But what is taking place are activities that assume we have exhausted all avenues at our disposal.That is understandable for the uninformed,but for the life of me,I do not understand the motives are these celebrity lawyers,because they do have the information,and have been informed about the legal flaws in their cases and pending actions.I have my theories,but I don't know their hearts.My prayers are that Americans will keep their heads in the coming months,and not be manipulated into the trap being set-up for us all.

Anonymous said...

4-8-09 Michael Savage,a man that spews venom against patriots wanting Barry to prove his nbc POTUS eligibilty status, has joined WND as its newest contributor.Go figure!

Anonymous said...

Of course,WND has pushed the BC over the NBC issue for months.And Savage interviewed another BC disclosure proponent [Berg],after backlash from smearing so-called "birthers".Converted? Naw.No more than Beck,when he claimed to be concerned about the NWO and Fema Camps,and just turned 180 degrees and debunked them the other day...m

Anonymous said...

With regards to the interview with Carl last Monday,he brought up two good points. 1.He admitted there are no legal grounds for these Citizen's Grand Juries.Vaguely,yes.But we are really talking about rights based on the Magna Carta with repsect to them having teeth.They are investigative bodies.But have no enforcement ability in and of themselves. 2.Because there is so much talk,and very little action in this country,there has to be some action taken.The line in the sand has to be drawn at some point.This is very understandable.If we wait until Martial Law is declared to attempt to take back our Republic,it will be chaotic and the patriots will be easily demonized.It's just sad that there is not a huge public outcry in the millions taking place now.That is the only thing that ever forces a corrupt government to back down on tyrannical acts and laws.But the dunbing-down process is too complete.So,these Grand Juries are a better message to send the trators in DC than the eligibility lawsuits.The past two presidents skated through impeachment,voter fraud,and war crimes.So,Barry is not going down unless it is planned.But these Benedict Arnold's need to know there are millions that are fed up with all the corruption,not just this usurpation issue....m note: good article by Greg----- By Greg Evensen

April 9, 2009

NewsWithViews.com

Never in my lifetime did I believe that I would ever witness the takeover of our nation by revolutionary forces dedicated to one socialistic goal. Naively, I held on to the presumption that when it REALLY came down to it, this nation would not allow communism the final victory. I based my life and my family’s safety and prosperity on that view. I just could not accept that my fellow citizens would encourage the rape and murder of our history, the betrayal of our collective sacrifices in times of war, and defeat in the centuries old debate over how much control Washington should exert over its populace.

We have experienced the destruction of our republic in a way that leaves virtually no possibility of a systemic change reversal toward our former sovereign status. Collective forces including global bankers, industrialists, social engineers specializing in tyranny, and the corrupted elites of every nation have realized their final victory over freedom, liberty and national identity.

The incredibly painful reality is that we have allowed for creeping incrementalism to wear us down for the final assault waged over the previous two years. It was during this time, that Wall Street, the banks, investment houses and corporate businesses crested in lunar orbit with unsustainable and unjustifiable run-ups in share values and the profane “margins” in the derivatives markets. Military misadventures killed our troops and our national morale. Universities have continuously and unrelentingly driven morality from the minds of our young and taught us that right is wrong and wrong is right. Public schools would take a pregnant girl to get an abortion, but go apoplectic if students ate ice cream at lunch.

In the meantime, these same students kill for sport on video games downloaded on their laptops.
And we wonder why Americans by the millions voted for a president devoid of every shred of “morality” except that of his Illuminati handlers

I have waged the battle for many years that has sought to insure our communities some hope that police forces would cling to their oaths and ultimately protect us from the absolute evil found in some of the state capitals and Washington itself. I have lectured, written, broadcast and lobbied for republic values and sovereign laws. Along with thousands of others just like me, I have tried to avoid this day and I have completely failed in my “mission.” The struggle, the battles, the war—has been lost. I am now a prisoner in my own land, awaiting an attempt to imprison me or worse. After all the battles I have been through, actual physical combat and armed confrontations too numerous to count in the streets of America, I face the prospect of standing the final battle virtually alone—at least that is how I view the near term future.

Only an enraged and unrelenting populace can change that fate for many of us. Only those who have felt the bitter sting of loss imposed by a leadership poised to sweep away all of our freedoms can fight back with the strength borne of desperation and personal betrayal. It will be those, who in the final hour gave their all for the ultimate fight for freedom, indeed the last great battle for freedom.

It will be high stakes all the way. Either we will emerge completely victorious or we will crawl out utterly defeated. It REALLY has come down to that. No hyperbole here, just ultimate, brutal reality. We will either survive as free people, or we will perish as a defeated people. To perish in the fight is to live on with God. To live as slaves in Obama’s communist America is not an option for me. If I am permitted to see a free republic victory, then all glory to God and thanks to my fellow patriotic freedom fighters. We cannot quit now or expect someone else to stand up to this bully government. There simply is no one else to resist these traitors.

I have reached that conclusion because I am now witnessing the final insult to a lifetime of advocacy from the ramparts. I watch as Americans continue the slaughter of their moral absolutes by vicious and vile people who advocate for the Obama nation and every horrific inch of the drunken excess called stimulus. I am incredulous at the “debates” in congress by officials who have sold out their fellow citizens, their common sense and their trust to the whorehouse that is Washington, D.C. I am sickened by men and women who justify abortion up to the moment of delivery as a human right for the mother but a human disaster for the child. Obama believes this is an absolute necessity in our brave new world of change. This same Obama who is of questionable heritage, unknown national origin, and the most incapable immoral leader in our history, is an object of delirium among nations who know nothing of him or his pending ultimate national betrayal.

Corrupted officials who demand that we pay unjust and unlawful taxes are hired for cabinet positions having not paid their own taxes. Truly, what do they know that we don’t? Eric Holder, the leftist moron, who occupies the chief law enforcement office in the land, makes John Ashcroft look flawless in retrospect. Hillary Clinton struts around the globe proclaiming United States authority to meld us into that (you know-for paranoids only, doesn’t really exist) global governance mindset that even has the Supreme Court drooling over how quickly we can all think globally, not constitutionally.

No matter how we paint this picture, the outcome is the same. It took hundreds of years, but the ancient evil ones among us have clutched the victor’s laurel wreath. Patriots, constitutionalists, anti-abortionists, militia supporters, UN haters, gun rights activists (you know, the ones the Fusion centers and various state police agencies long to stop, harass and incarcerate for their beliefs) are on the lists for government action and action IS pending.
Machine gun executioners under the employment of bailout giants in business and banking have melted down their barrels as they put millions into financial death and disruption across America.

Millions more were put to death by guillotines mounted on flatbeds and parked outside the agencies holding retirement programs and various savings plans meant to give peace of mind to those who worked decades to provide for THEMSELVES. The countless millions who have escaped this deadly fate by doing absolutely nothing and reaping the benefits handed out by the Executioner-in-Chief and his satanically inspired minions in government; deserve nothing but our scorn and absolute rejection. They include the ACLU, the Southern Poverty Law Center, the NAACP, the Anti-Defamation League, NOW, NARAL, ACORN, affirmative action plans, entitlement programs and their recipients, and the thousands of other money sucking programs designed to divide Americans from each other, their legitimate constitutional government and the ideals of a prosperous free system of production and individual work environments.

I make it a habit to draw battle lines clearly and identify the “enemy” of our people and our republic.

I do it because many will not. They shy from it through fear, intimidation and the desire to be on everybody’s nice list. I detest Morris Dees, the communist leader of the SPLC mentioned earlier. I abhor Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, Abraham Foxman, Catholic Cardinals who excuse sanctuary churches and illegal sanctuary cities. I hold complete contempt and rejection for the acceptance of sodomy, gay rights, gay marriage, or gay acceptance of any kind. Keep quiet about your perversion and practice if you must, in foul secrecy. I do not want to know what your preferences are. I will wage war with illegals that have come to this nation to violently take property, jobs, benefits, and possessions of native born farmers and ranchers. I will identify and pursue with any and all means available the maniacs who murder babies. The same goes for pornographers, drug dealers and child molesters. They have no place in our communities, our states or our nation–and certainly not under any protection or “color of law” anywhere, for any reason or by any jurisdiction, PERIOD!

Those ultimate fools who legislate day and night to seize my firearms are subject to my use on them if they force the issue. Firearm self-defense is a tool to resist tyranny and a natural right of every citizen. These are common sense virtues. Why are we discussing them? It is because common sense and virtue died with the republic. The same traitors that cheat us out of our liberties are the same ones that fear our right to own private land and defend it with deadly force if trifled with. We are the last guardians of the former American Republic. Make no mistake about that. Without us, the legions of freedom haters on earth, the Zionists, the communists, the globalists, and the Islamic Jihadists, would have enslaved America a long time ago.

So perhaps for the last time, for I see no reason to keep rehashing the obvious for the same choir month after month, I give you this solemn pledge and assessment.

The time has come for the freedom protectors still left in America to join with others of like mind, body and spirit in a defense force that will not yield another micron to the invaders, usurpers, sell-outs and true evil servers living amongst us in America. To allow them to do so is cowardly and insures that a potential victory will be that much more costly for those brave enough to make the final stand.
If any less confrontational, but successful way is possible in defeating this evil, then I say let’s pursue it. If rational thinking and common sense says no, confrontation and revolutionary change is at hand, then let it begin. We are losing precious daylight needed to identify, chase down and eliminate every last vestige of the enemy who will surely hunt us down first, if unopposed.I may stand alone, and I may go down quickly, but by God Almighty, I will not go with my head bowed and in chains. As I have prayed many times before going into battle, “Dear God, if I am to fall today, let me be successful long enough to help turn the tide toward victory and allow me to bring down enough of the enemy so that my fellow soldiers can make it home, and my family may live in peace and freedom…..Amen.”

© 2009 Greg Evensen - All Rights Reserved
original post found here>>>>
http://www.newswithviews.com/

Anonymous said...

This appears to be a non-exposure website on Barry--http://barrysoetoro.com/ Usuaaly you'll see sixes downloading up at bottom of screen for "All Barry" websites.Look at the bottom of screen when coming here.I noticed that on the first day.LOL! ..... m

Gort said...

The Fascist New World Order being thrust upon the world with a force and speed that boggles the mind,is being accepted by people that accepted the facade of Socialism throughout the 20th century through both incremnentalism as well as detaching the underpinnings of communist ideology from it.The aceptance and false notion of Democracy being a legitimate form of government for a freedom-loving people was slipped into the vernacular as well.Truly the George Santayana quote of people being doomed for a failere to learn from history is a timeless one."Those who fail[or cannot] to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.For decades researchers have called the NWO are a fascist one,and now the venner of socialism and communism--Marxist or otherwise is being stripped away.And yet,the sheeple persist in cognitive dissonance.The Founding Fathers have been maligned as rwacist white slaveowners to bury their sage advice on democratic forms of governments and where they ultimately lead for any nation that adopts that mob rule form of government.Here are some quotes form our Founding Fathers : "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"

~ Benjamin Franklin, leader of the American Revolution

"We are a Republican Government. Real liberty is never found in despotism or in the extremes of Democracy... It has been observed that a pure democracy if it were practicable would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved that no position is more false than this. The ancient democracies in which the people themselves deliberated never possessed one good feature of government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity."

~ Alexander Hamilton, Secretary of the Treasury to George Washington, author of the Federalist Papers

"Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."

~ John Adams, 2nd President of the United States

"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine."

~ Thomas Jefferson, 3rd President of the United States

"Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their death.

~ James Madison, 4th President of the United States, Father of the Constitution

"The experience of all former ages had shown that of all human governments, democracy was the most unstable, fluctuating and short-lived."

~ John Quincy Adams, 6th President of the United States

"Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos."

~ John Marshall, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, 1801-1835

Gort said...

Arlen,with regards to your recent blog post--,Manufactured Crisis, circa 2008-9; Planned Destruction, 1934

"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it."
- George Santayana
I say--you bet it was planned. The other day a blogger lamented the recent pronouncements of "The Biege One" saying we are not a Christian nation.Technically that is true,as there has never been one in history.But we certainly were founded on Christian precepts and the Holy Bible was revered by our Founding Father,whether they were Christians,masons,Deists, atheist,or agnostics.Here's some interesting observations by Pastor D.Meyer--- . Excerpts from newsletters nov.08-feb.09—- In this issue of the Last Trumpet Newsletter, we will use the light of the Scripture, the Holy Word of Almighty God, to reveal the truth of the recent amazing events that are now happening in our nation and around the world. Without a doubt, this is the most difficult newsletter I have written in twenty-seven years of publication. It is a nearly impossible challenge to get all of this information on five pages.

The Lord awakened me at four o’clock this morning and gave me the above title and scriptures for this issue of the newsletter. He then flooded my mind with a revelation about the antichrist and his dark forces. We know that God told Moses in Deuteronomy 18:18 that He would raise up a prophet like unto Moses. In Acts 3:22-26, the Apostle Peter makes it clear that the Lord Jesus Christ was that prophet. Just as Moses led the children of Israel out of a land of sin, idolatry, bondage, and slavery; so Jesus did the same thing in a spiritual sense, and He is preparing for us a promised land. This makes Moses an Old Testament type of Christ, pointing to the true Saviour, Jesus Christ, who was to come. We also know from Bible prophecy that in the last days an Antichrist would rise up to enslave the entire world. He would use economic power and great deceptions to cause the people to worship him and his master, who is Satan himself. When we realize that Moses typified Christ, we must also know that the Antichrist would likewise be an opposite of Moses and therefore do the reverse of what Moses did. The Antichrist, as an anti-Moses type, would lead people into slavery, idolatry, and bondage!

As we remember the story of Joseph being sold into Egypt and how he gained favor with Pharaoh and saved Egypt from a great seven-year famine, we must also remember that the real purpose of God was to preserve his people Israel and to sustain them for a while in Egypt. Because all of the storehouses were government-owned and controlled, the people had to yield and give Pharaoh complete control of everything they had. The complete story is in Genesis, chapter 47. Pharaoh took all of their property, possessions, and money.

When Israel came into Egypt, God blessed them greatly during the lifetime of Joseph. Then quite suddenly, everything changed. Everything Israel had was seized upon and confiscated. Everything became the property of the state. The people of Israel became slaves under hard taskmasters. Finally, God raised up Moses, and through a series of many miracles and judgments upon Egypt, Moses led the people to freedom and to a walk with Almighty God, and they left the land of socialism and slavery. They left the land of baby killing, for the government had declared that babies be killed. It was the law!

We are now seeing the forces of antichrist at work to raise up a man who is the antitype of Moses to lead people into a situation of socialism, slavery, bondage, and idolatry such as never has been seen before. This man is also in favor of baby killing, and secretly holds to a religion that worships the so-called sun god and the moon goddess. Is the erstwhile great nation of the United States of America so far gone that it would elect such a man to its highest office? Is the United States to become a spiritual type of Egypt, a land under the dark overshadowing of the spiritual wings of Satan?

No matter what happens or how evil the times become, we know that the day of our Lord’s return is drawing nigh. Are you ready to stand before the throne of the Almighty Saviour? The Lord Jesus is merciful and gracious to all who call upon Him in truth. Do it now while you are able, and He will be your close friend through all of this.
We must also bear in mind that the word inauguarate comes from the ancient Latin language of the old Roman Empire. In ancient Rome there were soothsayers called augurs who were invested with evil spirits and could supposedly declare the future. From the word augur came the word inaugurate, which literally means to take omens. In European nations the monarchs and heads of nations were always crowned by some kind of religious leader such as the Pope, a Cardinal, the Archbishop of Canterbury, or another religious official. That way, the impression was given that none would dare question the authority of the “crowned one”, because the crown was placed by a supposed representative of God. Obama has chosen his so-called “holy man” to do the job. It is the immensely popular Rick Warren, the pastor of a mega church and author of the book A Purpose-Driven Life. Warren is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, which is the Illuminati in the United States. Warren also admitted in an interview that he loves hard rock music. Although Warren claims to be “anti-gay” and “pro-life”, it is all a front because Obama is very pro-gay rights and pro-abortion. Why would Warren support him if he had true convictions on these issues? This is the man who was handpicked by Obama to be the officiating “holy man” as he takes omens and heads for the Oval Office!Now we are seeing Obama sacred medallions being worn around the neck on a chain. The medallion has Obama’s image struck in it with the words “Save Us.” On January 17th, 2009, the London Daily Mail featured the headline which began with the words “Obama Can Save Us.” On January 18th, 2009, the Guardian Newspaper in London, England, featured a story with the headlines “President Has Four Years to Save the Earth.” The story was based on studies done by NASA scientist Jim Hansen, telling how Obama will need to take immediate action to save the earth from ecological disaster. ) Who is this man, Barack Obama, that Vanity Fair Magazine declared is “the most famous living person in the history of the world”? Who is this man that women throughout the United States are having indecent dreams and fantasies about, as reported by the New York Times Newspaper? Who is this man, Barack Obama, that we know so little about? Consider the following list: Occidental College records-Not released, Columbia University records-Not released, Columbia Thesis paper-Not available, Harvard College records-Not released, Selective Service Registration-Not released, Medical records-Not released, Illinois State Senate Schedule-Not available, Law Practice client list- Not released, Certified copy of original birth certificate-Not released, Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth-Not released, Record of Baptism-Not available.There are some very amazing spiritual aspects to Barack Hussein Obama, and none of them are good. Powerful evidence has now emerged regarding his ancestry. Eight thousand Beduin nomadic people say they have photographic and other documentary proof that Obama has Arab blood from the Beduin tribe and came from these tribes of nomadic Arabs of northern Israel. He is also one-quarter white and one-quarter Kenyan. This Beduin connection would make him a descendant of Abraham through Ishmael and a descendant of Esau through the Idumeans and Edomites. The Herodian Dynasty came from this race, including Herod the baby killer, who ruled at the time when Jesus was born. This would make Barack Hussein Obama a prime candidate for the office of Antichrist! In Hebrew, the word “Barak” without the added letter “C” means lightning. When Revelation, chapter 13, tells us of the antichrist causing fire to come down from heaven, the Greek word used there for fire means lightning. Why did the news media on election night keep saying that America and all the other countries were “electrified by Obama’s rise in the polls?” We also know that Obama’s home state of Illinois has a state lottery with one game called “Pick Three.” The numbers for the evening draw on the day he was elected were 6-6-6! I personally believe that some of the same spirits that were in Adolf Hitler are now in Barack Obama. Why did Obama take his campaign to Berlin, Germany, and stand in the Tiergarten with his right arm stiffened and raised to 45 degrees in a Hitler-like salute? Why did thousands of Germans who gathered there return that salute, which is forbidden by law in Germany? Why did Obama give his one-world speech from a place in Berlin where five streets come together at a place called the Big Star? Messenger Note: We are nearing the end of the world.Not the age or aeon.That’s chialism that crept into Christianity in the 19th century.The Great Apostasy is underway.We must pray for lost souls to repent and pray for a redemption that draweth nigh.Only national repentance can see the L:ord’s healing on a nation,and that is never going to happen p.s.......Lord help us in these trying times.....messenger

Gort said...

Good article by Berit Kjos on the planned takeover.She's been around for years.Usually speaks out on edication dumbing-down like Isybert.- http://www.newswithviews.com/BeritKjos/kjos102.htm

Gort said...

Thanks Arlen.I'm glad you've been using the term Fasdist,albeit conjoined with Marxism.Geral Celente was on Rense's show recently,and on Russia Today,and has stated that he is making sure he explains to people that what we are experiencing is a Global Fascist takeover,as you've been reporting for months.Although many people abhore Communism,they have been conditioned to love Big Brother Socialism and not view it as a dirty word or ideology no longer.But the plan has always been Totalitarianism and Fascism,though the terminology has changed since the 16th through 18th centuries.The same goes for people that have thought being a liberal or democratic is for the downtrodden masses.They have been duped by the rlitists at the top.Always have been,always will be.We are in the final stages of the enslavement of humanity.Folks,pput on the whole armor of God,and pray as never before.... messenger

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know what happened to Orly Taitz's web blog at DEFENDOURFREEDOM?

THERE IS NOTHING ON HER WEB BLOG.

Anonymous said...

Samson Obama--Barry's half-brother-- child sex assault scandal.... m http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-2684-Law-Enforcement-Examiner~y2009m4d11-British-cops-bust-Obamas-halfbrother-for-child-sex-assault

Anonymous said...

anon @ 5:38pm-- Apparently her webhost server wasn't happy with her exaggerations about hacking and asked her to get another webhost server,others say she was sabotaged.Either way,she will have a new server in a few days....messenger

Gort said...

Rick "Judas Goat" Warren's apostasy is out in the open.He's been a New Ager from the get-go,but this should convince any bemused Doubting Thomases.Actually,the blessings invoked off several false deities,and never mentioning Jesus Christ of Nazareth--the one true God-- at the inauguration should've convinced everyone.The Christs he mentioned were the false christs and "another Jesus" and "another gospel" mentioned in the epistles.....m http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=481280

Gort said...

Black Market Nukes story...m http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/595.html

Anonymous said...

The irony in the Tea Party affair is that most people do not see Basso's bizarre views.Gregory William's "Not My Teat Party" column makes the point of mandaory service running contrary to the fight for life,liberty,and the pursuit of happiness.As mentioned earlier,I stated Basso's rant on "Democracy",and so forth.In his blogtalk interview he elevated Deism as true spiritualiy.What I'd add here is that the original Tea Party was instigated by Masons dressed up as Indians,and had nothing to do with the historical claims.But people are frustated and are seeking leaders and ideas to get the attention of the traitors in DC.It's tragic,because everything taking place in the past 6 months is playing into the hands of the elites.No matter how outrageous the criminal acts are,it is harder for them to provoke Americans,unlike what is taking place in other countries ousting the traitors in their governments.......m

Anonymous said...

The American Grand Jury is in its final stages of organization.This is not to be confused with Steve Pidgeon's National Grand Jury,of which nothing is known about.Steve missed one interview at PRN 2 weeks ago,and his last one on PHRN was not on the subject.Arlen,you should post Hanen's blog on him over here.She hit the nail on the head in that one......m

Anonymous said...

The picture of the hand in space that has astronomers puzzeld is a sign.If you look closely it is not an abstract nebula that looks like a hand.It is a hand with four fingers and a thumb grasping for a crown...m

Anonymous said...

Like Ed Hale shoots off his mouth an makes an ass out of himself so will anyone who supports, "citizens grand juries" as the one in Georgia. I believe Leo is correct on this issue.
People need to understand more about the "citizen grand juries". Leo seems to make it plain, this will not work because it is not constitutional. A tea party is a much more useful effort than this distraction. People need to wake up and be informed about the wasted effort and time of the "citizen grand jury". Leo Donofrio has a better idea with quo warranto.

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

Anonymous said...

anin@ 5:48pm--I agree.It's more than an idea though.It is the only code-statute available to address the eligibiity issue.As for the rest of it,well it doesn't matter,because Barry is moving so quickly to destroy this nation,that if he is not exposed and ousted,it's all over.It will not take 4 years for Barry to collapse the system.With another sock puppet in there,there would be a little time to make an attempt at reclaiming the Republic.That is,to forestall the inevitable drive to a Fascist New World Order...m

Gort said...

As the looting continues and the masses feel empowered with Tea Parties and Grand Juries,the bankrupt cities across the nation are gouging the people in creative ways.The story below is about a bill from the city for an "accident response team" after a car accident.Another city is proposing a fee added to every citizen's electric bill for the convenience of "streetlights" outside their homes.Sorry McGrew the traitors do not fear us one iota[."World leaders are making a very dangerous mistake to think that we, the people of America are not making preparations for cleaning house"-quote from Grand Jury article here on 4-13-09...There are no preparation thus far.Our policing agencies have been informed of our grievances with Barry and the Bailouts and have done nothing.They have no fear.They have concern and when there is a step taken in the right direction they send out the clowns to debunk it].But at least people are becoming aware of their coming enslavement.While the distractions of these "investigative actions" of grand juries takes place,Barry increases our national debt by trillions,plans on amnesty for illegal aliens,and the graves for the millions of plastic coffins continue to be dug. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/11/business/11fees.html?_r=2

Anonymous said...

Let us heed the words of our Founding Fathers,and the great men that followed them.Yes,the same ones demonized in the Leftist Universities across America...m “Hold on, my friends, to the Constitution and the Republic
for which it stands. Miracles do not cluster, and what has happened
once in 6,000 years, may not happen again. Hold on to the
Constitution, for if the American Constitution should fail,
there will be anarchy throughout the world.”
Daniel Webster

Anonymous said...

Quotes from our Founding Fathers...m----- The First Charter of Virginia (granted by King James I, on April 10, 1606)
• We, greatly commending, and graciously accepting of, their Desires for the Furtherance of so noble a Work, which may, by the Providence of Almighty God, hereafter tend to the Glory of his Divine Majesty, in propagating of Christian Religion to such People, as yet live in Darkness and miserable Ignorance of the true Knowledge and Worship of God…
Instructions for the Virginia Colony (1606)
Lastly and chiefly the way to prosper and achieve good success is to make yourselves all of one mind for the good of your country and your own, and to serve and fear God the Giver of all Goodness, for every plantation which our Heavenly Father hath not planted shall be rooted out.

William Bradford
• wrote that they [the Pilgrims] were seeking:
• 1) "a better, and easier place of living”; and that “the children of the group were being drawn away by evil examples into extravagance and dangerous courses [in Holland]“
• 2) “The great hope, and for the propagating and advancing the gospel of the kingdom of Christ in those remote parts of the world"
The Mayflower Compact (authored by William Bradford) 1620 | Signing of the Mayflower painting | Picture of Compact
“Having undertaken, for the glory of God, and advancement of the Christian faith, and honor of our King and Country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the northern parts of Virginia, do by these presents solemnly and mutually, in the presence of God, and one of another, covenant and combine our selves together…”
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John Adams and John Hancock:
We Recognize No Sovereign but God, and no King but Jesus! [April 18, 1775]

John Adams:
“ The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principals of Christianity… I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.”
• “[July 4th] ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty.”
–John Adams in a letter written to Abigail on the day the Declaration was approved by Congress

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." --October 11, 1798

"I have examined all religions, as well as my narrow sphere, my straightened means, and my busy life, would allow; and the result is that the Bible is the best Book in the world. It contains more philosophy than all the libraries I have seen." December 25, 1813 letter to Thomas Jefferson

"Without Religion this World would be Something not fit to be mentioned in polite Company, I mean Hell." [John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, April 19, 1817] |
.......click here to see this quote in its context and to see John Adams' quotes taken OUT of context!


Samuel Adams: | Portrait of Sam Adams | Powerpoint presentation on John, John Quincy, and Sam Adams
“ He who made all men hath made the truths necessary to human happiness obvious to all… Our forefathers opened the Bible to all.” [ "American Independence," August 1, 1776. Speech delivered at the State House in Philadelphia]

“ Let divines and philosophers, statesmen and patriots, unite their endeavors to renovate the age by impressing the minds of men with the importance of educating their little boys and girls, inculcating in the minds of youth the fear and love of the Deity… and leading them in the study and practice of the exalted virtues of the Christian system.” [October 4, 1790]

John Quincy Adams:
• “Why is it that, next to the birthday of the Savior of the world, your most joyous and most venerated festival returns on this day [the Fourth of July]?" “Is it not that, in the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior? That it forms a leading event in the progress of the Gospel dispensation? Is it not that the Declaration of Independence first organized the social compact on the foundation of the Redeemer's mission upon earth? That it laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity"?
--1837, at the age of 69, when he delivered a Fourth of July speech at Newburyport, Massachusetts.

“The Law given from Sinai [The Ten Commandments] was a civil and municipal as well as a moral and religious code.”
John Quincy Adams. Letters to his son. p. 61

Elias Boudinot: | Portrait of Elias Boudinot
“ Be religiously careful in our choice of all public officers . . . and judge of the tree by its fruits.”

Charles Carroll - signer of the Declaration of Independence | Portrait of Charles Carroll
" Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure...are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments." [Source: To James McHenry on November 4, 1800.]

Benjamin Franklin: | Portrait of Ben Franklin
“ God governs in the affairs of man. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured in the Sacred Writings that except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it. I firmly believe this. I also believe that, without His concurring aid, we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel” –Constitutional Convention of 1787 | original manuscript of this speech

“In the beginning of the contest with Britain, when we were sensible of danger, we had daily prayers in this room for Divine protection. Our prayers, Sir, were heard, and they were graciously answered… do we imagine we no longer need His assistance?” [Constitutional Convention, Thursday June 28, 1787]

In Benjamin Franklin's 1749 plan of education for public schools in Pennsylvania, he insisted that schools teach "the excellency of the Christian religion above all others, ancient or modern."

In 1787 when Franklin helped found Benjamin Franklin University, it was dedicated as "a nursery of religion and learning, built on Christ, the Cornerstone."

Alexander Hamilton:
• Hamilton began work with the Rev. James Bayard to form the Christian Constitutional Society to help spread over the world the two things which Hamilton said made America great:
(1) Christianity
(2) a Constitution formed under Christianity.
“The Christian Constitutional Society, its object is first: The support of the Christian religion. Second: The support of the United States.”

On July 12, 1804 at his death, Hamilton said, “I have a tender reliance on the mercy of the Almighty, through the merits of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am a sinner. I look to Him for mercy; pray for me.”

"For my own part, I sincerely esteem it [the Constitution] a system which without the finger of God, never could have been suggested and agreed upon by such a diversity of interests." [1787 after the Constitutional Convention]

"I have carefully examined the evidences of the Christian religion, and if I was sitting as a juror upon its authenticity I would unhesitatingly give my verdict in its favor. I can prove its truth as clearly as any proposition ever submitted to the mind of man."

John Hancock:
• “In circumstances as dark as these, it becomes us, as Men and Christians, to reflect that whilst every prudent measure should be taken to ward off the impending judgments, …at the same time all confidence must be withheld from the means we use; and reposed only on that God rules in the armies of Heaven, and without His whole blessing, the best human counsels are but foolishness… Resolved; …Thursday the 11th of May…to humble themselves before God under the heavy judgments felt and feared, to confess the sins that have deserved them, to implore the Forgiveness of all our transgressions, and a spirit of repentance and reformation …and a Blessing on the … Union of the American Colonies in Defense of their Rights [for which hitherto we desire to thank Almighty God]…That the people of Great Britain and their rulers may have their eyes opened to discern the things that shall make for the peace of the nation…for the redress of America’s many grievances, the restoration of all her invaded liberties, and their security to the latest generations.
"A Day of Fasting, Humiliation and Prayer, with a total abstinence from labor and recreation. Proclamation on April 15, 1775"

Patrick Henry:
"Orator of the Revolution."
• This is all the inheritance I can give my dear family. The religion of Christ can give them one which will make them rich indeed.”
—The Last Will and Testament of Patrick Henry

“It cannot be emphasized too clearly and too often that this nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religion, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason, peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.” [May 1765 Speech to the House of Burgesses]

“The Bible is worth all other books which have ever been printed.”

John Jay:
“ Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.” Source: October 12, 1816. The Correspondence and Public Papers of John Jay, Henry P. Johnston, ed., (New York: Burt Franklin, 1970), Vol. IV, p. 393.

“Whether our religion permits Christians to vote for infidel rulers is a question which merits more consideration than it seems yet to have generally received either from the clergy or the laity. It appears to me that what the prophet said to Jehoshaphat about his attachment to Ahab ["Shouldest thou help the ungodly and love them that hate the Lord?" 2 Chronicles 19:2] affords a salutary lesson.” [The Correspondence and Public Papers of John Jay, 1794-1826, Henry P. Johnston, editor (New York: G.P. Putnam's Sons, 1893), Vol. IV, p.365]

Thomas Jefferson:
“ The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend to all the happiness of man.”

“Of all the systems of morality, ancient or modern which have come under my observation, none appears to me so pure as that of Jesus.”

"I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus."

“God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are a gift from God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, and that His justice cannot sleep forever.” (excerpts are inscribed on the walls of the Jefferson Memorial in the nations capital) [Source: Merrill . D. Peterson, ed., Jefferson Writings, (New York: Literary Classics of the United States, Inc., 1984), Vol. IV, p. 289. From Jefferson’s Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, 1781.]

Samuel Johnston:
• “It is apprehended that Jews, Mahometans (Muslims), pagans, etc., may be elected to high offices under the government of the United States. Those who are Mahometans, or any others who are not professors of the Christian religion, can never be elected to the office of President or other high office, [unless] first the people of America lay aside the Christian religion altogether, it may happen. Should this unfortunately take place, the people will choose such men as think as they do themselves.
[Elliot’s Debates, Vol. IV, pp 198-199, Governor Samuel Johnston, July 30, 1788 at the North Carolina Ratifying Convention]

James Madison
“ We’ve staked our future on our ability to follow the Ten Commandments with all of our heart.”

“We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We’ve staked the future of all our political institutions upon our capacity…to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.” [1778 to the General Assembly of the State of Virginia]

• I have sometimes thought there could not be a stronger testimony in favor of religion or against temporal enjoyments, even the most rational and manly, than for men who occupy the most honorable and gainful departments and [who] are rising in reputation and wealth, publicly to declare the unsatisfactoriness [of temportal enjoyments] by becoming fervent advocates in the cause of Christ; and I wish you may give in your evidence in this way.
Letter by Madison to William Bradford (September 25, 1773)
• In 1812, President Madison signed a federal bill which economically aided the Bible Society of Philadelphia in its goal of the mass distribution of the Bible.
“ An Act for the relief of the Bible Society of Philadelphia” Approved February 2, 1813 by Congress

“It is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian forbearance, love, and charity toward each other.”

• A watchful eye must be kept on ourselves lest, while we are building ideal monuments of renown and bliss here, we neglect to have our names enrolled in the Annals of Heaven. [Letter by Madison to William Bradford [urging him to make sure of his own salvation] November 9, 1772]

At the Constitutional Convention of 1787, James Madison proposed the plan to divide the central government into three branches. He discovered this model of government from the Perfect Governor, as he read Isaiah 33:22;
“For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver,
the LORD is our king;
He will save us.”
[Baron Charles Montesquieu, wrote in 1748; “Nor is there liberty if the power of judging is not separated from legislative power and from executive power. If it [the power of judging] were joined to legislative power, the power over life and liberty of the citizens would be arbitrary, for the judge would be the legislature if it were joined to the executive power, the judge could have the force of an oppressor. All would be lost if the same … body of principal men … exercised these three powers." Madison claimed Isaiah 33:22 as the source of division of power in government
See also: pp.241-242 in Teaching and Learning America’s Christian History: The Principle approach by Rosalie Slater]

James McHenry – Signer of the Constitution
Public utility pleads most forcibly for the general distribution of the Holy Scriptures. The doctrine they preach, the obligations they impose, the punishment they threaten, the rewards they promise, the stamp and image of divinity they bear, which produces a conviction of their truths, can alone secure to society, order and peace, and to our courts of justice and constitutions of government, purity, stability and usefulness. In vain, without the Bible, we increase penal laws and draw entrenchments around our institutions. Bibles are strong entrenchments. Where they abound, men cannot pursue wicked courses, and at the same time enjoy quiet conscience.

Jedediah Morse:
"To the kindly influence of Christianity we owe that degree of civil freedom, and political and social happiness which mankind now enjoys. . . . Whenever the pillars of Christianity shall be overthrown, our present republican forms of government, and all blessings which flow from them, must fall with them."

John Peter Gabriel Muhlenberg
In a sermon delivered to his Virginia congregation on Jan. 21, 1776, he preached from Ecclesiastes 3.
Arriving at verse 8, which declares that there is a time of war and a time of peace, Muhlenberg noted that this surely was not the time of peace; this was the time of war. Concluding with a prayer, and while standing in full view of the congregation, he removed his clerical robes to reveal that beneath them he was wearing the uniform of an officer in the Continental army! He marched to the back of the church; ordered the drum to beat for recruits and over three hundred men joined him, becoming the Eighth Virginia Brigade. John Peter Muhlenberg finished the Revolution as a Major-General, having been at Valley Forge and having participated in the battles of Brandywine, Germantown, Monmouth, Stonypoint, and Yorktown.

Thomas Paine:
“ It has been the error of the schools to teach astronomy, and all the other sciences, and subjects of natural philosophy, as accomplishments only; whereas they should be taught theologically, or with reference to the Being who is the author of them: for all the principles of science are of divine origin. Man cannot make, or invent, or contrive principles: he can only discover them; and he ought to look through the discovery to the Author.”
“ The evil that has resulted from the error of the schools, in teaching natural philosophy as an accomplishment only, has been that of generating in the pupils a species of atheism. Instead of looking through the works of creation to the Creator himself, they stop short, and employ the knowledge they acquire to create doubts of his existence. They labour with studied ingenuity to ascribe every thing they behold to innate properties of matter, and jump over all the rest by saying, that matter is eternal.” “The Existence of God--1810”

Benjamin Rush:
• “I lament that we waste so much time and money in punishing crimes and take so little pains to prevent them…we neglect the only means of establishing and perpetuating our republican forms of government; that is, the universal education of our youth in the principles of Christianity by means of the Bible; for this Divine Book, above all others, constitutes the soul of republicanism.” “By withholding the knowledge of [the Scriptures] from children, we deprive ourselves of the best means of awakening moral sensibility in their minds.” [Letter written (1790’s) in Defense of the Bible in all schools in America]
• “Christianity is the only true and perfect religion.”
• “If moral precepts alone could have reformed mankind, the mission of the Son of God into our world would have been unnecessary.”

"Let the children who are sent to those schools be taught to read and write and above all, let both sexes be carefully instructed in the principles and obligations of the Christian religion. This is the most essential part of education”
Letters of Benjamin Rush, "To the citizens of Philadelphia: A Plan for Free Schools", March 28, 1787

Justice Joseph Story:
“ I verily believe Christianity necessary to the support of civil society. One of the beautiful boasts of our municipal jurisprudence is that Christianity is a part of the Common Law. . . There never has been a period in which the Common Law did not recognize Christianity as lying its foundations.”
[Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States p. 593]
“ Infidels and pagans were banished from the halls of justice as unworthy of credit.” [Life and letters of Joseph Story, Vol. II 1851, pp. 8-9.]
“ At the time of the adoption of the constitution, and of the amendment to it, now under consideration [i.e., the First Amendment], the general, if not the universal sentiment in America was, that Christianity ought to receive encouragement from the state, so far as was not incompatible with the private rights of conscience, and the freedom of religious worship.”
[Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States p. 593]

Noah Webster:
“ The duties of men are summarily comprised in the Ten Commandments, consisting of two tables; one comprehending the duties which we owe immediately to God-the other, the duties we owe to our fellow men.”

“In my view, the Christian religion is the most important and one of the first things in which all children, under a free government ought to be instructed...No truth is more evident to my mind than that the Christian religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and privileges of a free people.”
[Source: 1828, in the preface to his American Dictionary of the English Language]

Let it be impressed on your mind that God commands you to choose for rulers just men who will rule in the fear of God [Exodus 18:21]. . . . If the citizens neglect their duty and place unprincipled men in office, the government will soon be corrupted . . . If our government fails to secure public prosperity and happiness, it must be because the citizens neglect the Divine commands, and elect bad men to make and administer the laws. [Noah Webster, The History of the United States (New Haven: Durrie and Peck, 1832), pp. 336-337, 49]

“All the miseries and evils which men suffer from vice, crime, ambition, injustice, oppression, slavery and war, proceed from their despising or neglecting the precepts contained in the Bible.” [Noah Webster. History. p. 339]

“The Bible was America’s basic textbook
in all fields.” [Noah Webster. Our Christian Heritage p.5]

“Education is useless without the Bible” [Noah Webster. Our Christian Heritage p.5 ]

George Washington:

Farewell Address: The name of American, which belongs to you, in your national capacity, must always exalt the just pride of Patriotism, more than any appellation derived from local discriminations. With slight shades of difference, you have the same religion" ...and later: "...reason and experience both forbid us to expect, that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle..."


“ It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and Bible.”

“What students would learn in American schools above all is the religion of Jesus Christ.” [speech to the Delaware Indian Chiefs May 12, 1779]

"To the distinguished character of patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian" [May 2, 1778, at Valley Forge]

During his inauguration, Washington took the oath as prescribed by the Constitution but added several religious components to that official ceremony. Before taking his oath of office, he summoned a Bible on which to take the oath, added the words “So help me God!” to the end of the oath, then leaned over and kissed the Bible.

Nelly Custis-Lewis (Washington’s adopted daughter):
Is it necessary that any one should [ask], “Did General Washington avow himself to be a believer in Christianity?" As well may we question his patriotism, his heroic devotion to his country. His mottos were, "Deeds, not Words"; and, "For God and my Country."

“ O Most Glorious God, in Jesus Christ, my merciful and loving Father; I acknowledge and confess my guilt in the weak and imperfect performance of the duties of this day. I have called on Thee for pardon and forgiveness of my sins, but so coldly and carelessly that my prayers are become my sin, and they stand in need of pardon.”
“ I have sinned against heaven and before Thee in thought, word, and deed. I have contemned Thy majesty and holy laws. I have likewise sinned by omitting what I ought to have done and committing what I ought not. I have rebelled against the light, despising Thy mercies and judgment, and broken my vows and promise. I have neglected the better things. My iniquities are multiplied and my sins are very great. I confess them, O Lord, with shame and sorrow, detestation and loathing and desire to be vile in my own eyes as I have rendered myself vile in Thine. I humbly beseech Thee to be merciful to me in the free pardon of my sins for the sake of Thy dear Son and only Savior Jesus Christ who came to call not the righteous, but sinners to repentance. Thou gavest Thy Son to die for me.”
[George Washington; from a 24 page authentic handwritten manuscript book dated April 21-23, 1752
William J. Johnson George Washington, the Christian (New York: The Abingdon Press, New York & Cincinnati, 1919), pp. 24-35.]

"Although guided by our excellent Constitution in the discharge of official duties, and actuated, through the whole course of my public life, solely by a wish to promote the best interests of our country; yet, without the beneficial interposition of the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, we could not have reached the distinguished situation which we have attained with such unprecedented rapidity. To HIM, therefore, should we bow with gratitude and reverence, and endeavor to merit a continuance of HIS special favors". [1797 letter to John Adams]

James Wilson:
Signer of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution
Supreme Court Justice appointed by George Washington
Spoke 168 times during the Constitutional Convention

"Christianity is part of the common law"
[Sources: James Wilson, Course of Lectures [vol 3, p.122]; and quoted in Updegraph v. The Commonwealth, 11 Serg, & R. 393, 403 (1824).]

Gort said...

The Illuminati plan for chaos this year moves forward This is a partial transcript from the Texas Tea Party---- Texas Gov. Rick Perry fired up an anti-tax "tea party" Wednesday with his stance against the federal government and for states' rights as some in his U.S. flag-waving audience shouted, "Secede!" and said-- "I'm just not real sure you're a bunch of right-wing extremists. But if you are, we're with you." ---- note: It's good to see a politician with guts.Sadly,the elites want revolution and race wars.There's no other explanation for demonizing our troops and patriots adhering to the constitution.The benefit cuts and slurs against returning military servicemen is alarming.This move further strengthens the contention that foreign and UN troops as well as mercenaries will be used, along with any in our military that will go along with the takeover,to fire on US citizens during the crisis and martial law.And the continued attack on legal citizens and the majority with government affirmative action programs and praising of illegal aliens is part of the coming race wars.

Anonymous said...

No.2 mall owner files for bankruptcy... http://money.cnn.com/2009/04/16/news/companies/general_growth_bankruptcy.reut/?section=money_markets Gerald Celente is right on target.Other trends and forecasters,excluding the msm shills,are projecting financial collapse,tax revolts,etc,over a three year timepframe.Celente has been saying all along this would start this year.The two bailouts ended the Fabian Socialistic game of incremenatalism.Things are moving quickly nowadays.....m -------- The Collapse of ’09
by Gerald Celente

The "Panic of ’08" will be followed by "The Collapse of ’09." In 2008, when the world’s largest financial firms and equity markets crumbled, Wall Street’s woes preoccupied the media.
In 2009, the focus will broaden to include a range of calamities that will leave no sector unscathed. Next in line is retail, which accounts for some 70 percent of consumer spending, 26 percent of which is holiday sales.
After the numbers are tallied to reveal a dismal retail Christmas, more big chain bankruptcies will follow. Besides leaving masses unemployed, defunct retailers will leave behind thousands of empty stores. Who will rent them? Nobody!
Add to these empties commercial space vacated by defunct financial firms and an array of troubled businesses, from restaurants to architectural firms, to high-tech operations, to offset printers, etc., etc. The inescapable result (that we predicted over a year ago and is only now being discussed in the business media) is a commercial real estate bust that will be costlier, wreak greater havoc and prove more intractable than the residential market decline.
Because most people don’t live and shop on Wall Street, the "Panic of ’08" was viewed by Main Street as if from afar – even though many were losing money. But when commercial real estate crashes, it will hit much closer to home. The depressive atmosphere of thinly shopped, half-vacant malls will strike emotional chords and all the senses.
In office buildings, vacant floors and empty cubicles will dampen the workday spirit of the still-employed; ever-present reminders of laid-off friends and colleagues and of the fragility of employment.
Abandoned, untended business and industrial parks will highlight the already mournful scene. In cities studded with soaring towers and new construction predicated on eternal economic growth, streets lined with "For Rent/For Sale" signs will complement stilled cranes and uncompleted buildings.
As retail and commercial real estate collapse, the credit card sector and all its interrelated processing and back office support businesses will suffer and be forced to scale back. Hordes of consumers who have been living off credit cards and racking up debt to the limit will lack the funds to service their debt… much less pay it off, and they will be forced to default. Given the nearly $3 trillion in consumer debt at risk (excluding auto and mortgage) an inevitable default snowball will add momentum to the in-progress Collapse of ’09.
While we alone predicted the "Panic of ’08" (and even took out the domain name "Panicof08.com" on 7 November 2007), we are not alone in predicting a Depression.
The "D" word is being uttered – in some cases by those who have the most to lose and whose best interests are not served by spreading gloom and doom. "The world and country are in a depression," said celebrity tycoon Donald Trump. He then later softened the blow, downgrading it to a "virtual depression."
"Virtual" to the few who will never have to worry where the next dollar will come from, it will be painfully real and hardly virtual to the multitudes who are and will be worrying. The virally proliferating Greatest Depression is the Trend of Trends for 2009.
Even so, beware! Over the course of free-falling 2009, the word from most official sources will be "recession," and from the few mainstream trophy pessimists, "deep recession."
For example, the oft-quoted naysayer, Nouriel Roubini, New York University professor of economics, forecasts a two-year recession … not Depression. On the sunnier side of Wall Street, the Federal Reserve predicts the US economy will contract only through the middle of 2009 and pledged, "In any event, the Committee agreed to take whatever steps were necessary to support the recovery."
What "steps"? The Bernanke Two-Step? Adjust interest rates or print more money? Neither stopped the credit crisis from worsening, the real estate market from tanking or the stock markets from crashing.
It was Fed finagling, Washington deregulation and Wall Street’s compulsive gambling that created the crisis. To trust or to seriously consider pronouncements, analyses and predictions made by any of these sources is an exercise in willful self-deception. Yet, with pensions, IRAs, 401ks, stocks and mutual funds evaporating, many of those most affected deny reality and take hope that forecasts made by proven incompetents will miraculously restore their losses.
Throughout the many years leading up to what we term the "Greatest Depression," The Trends Research Institute provided copious data and Globalnomic analysis to support our forecasts of economic upheaval. In the past year alone, we have provided so much hard evidence (housings starts, home sales, foreclosures, bankruptcies, bank failures, unemployment figures, stock indices, leading economic indicators, retail sales, etc.) that further elaboration should be superfluous.
Those waiting to hear the "D" word from economic experts, talking heads and TV anchors before taking action will most certainly regret their indecisiveness.
Absent from the economic scenarios ranging from second quarter recovery, deep recession and "virtual" depression are the multiplicity of social, environmental, health, political, emotional/psychological and geopolitical factors that point beyond just Depression. They point to The Decline and Fall of Empire America.
Well before Inauguration Day, Barack Obama was cast as the next Franklin Delano Roosevelt. If he follows in FDR’s footsteps, he could freeze deposits by declaring a "holiday" to stop a run on the banks. While FDIC insurance may cover deposits, even after banks reopen, withdrawal amounts may be restricted. (As the Argentine government did in 2001–2002.)
Author’s Note: Suspicious of the soundness of the banking system, I requested to withdraw a substantial sum from our Key Bank account, leaving funds sufficient to cover ongoing business operations. First they tried to dissuade me, then they stonewalled me, and finally they turned openly hostile.
I was forced to sign a series of documents, including one acknowledging that since I was carrying a large sum, I could be the target of a robbery. To enhance that possibility, the teller slammed down the bag of cash on the counter and publicly announced the sum.
Despite repeated requests in the days preceding my withdrawal to get the cash in hundreds, they gave it to me in twenties, making for a bag five times the size and more robber-friendly. When I complained to the bank manager who had processed the request, the response amounted to "take it or leave it."
This will not be an isolated event. If you attempt to withdraw a large chunk of money from your account, negotiate the details in advance and anticipate possible hassle and obstruction. We’ve heard similar accounts from clients and Trends Journal subscribers who, over the past several months, tried to close out mutual funds, 401ks and assorted sinking equities. They were dissuaded, cajoled, belittled and arm-twisted by brokers desperate to keep their accounts. Many caved in under the pressure, didn’t close them and lost most of what they had.
So, we leave you with a Greatest Depression consideration: How safe is your money? How sound is your bank? At the end of November, Citigroup, once America’s largest bank, was on the rocks. Fifty-two thousand employees were laid off. In just three days, its stock lost more than half its value. Rumors swirled that Citi was so desperate they were looking to sell or split up the company.
Is your money deposited in a local bank whose reputation you can bank on? Are you with a teetering giant or a poorly-managed regional? If either of the latter, it would be in your best interest to assess the risks.
Take some out if you think there is risk; take it all out if you think there’s high risk. You may consider spreading it around and even banking abroad … after all, this is the Global Age

Gort said...

Please share this website with your friends and neighbors-- it is : http://www.uaff.us/deathcamps.htm After you enter the wesite,scroll down to the google video to hear an interview with the owner B.A.Brooks with Michael Badnarik.He explains the Fema Camps and coming martial law.He also confirms my Black Friday post by speaking about how he learned of the closed door meeting.I too learned about it first through Meyer.Nowadays you can find other videos on Youtube and websites.Michael Herzog has a You Tube up from last year.There was no turning back once the Globalists had that information given in secret to our elected representatives.And the 2 Bailouts was the quickening of their engame.Here's a repost of my Black Friday post------- The Stimilus scam of Black Friday 2-13-09 was the final nail in the coffin folks....... Australia.To [Australia's national website]
What was discussed at a closed session of the U.S. House of Representatives?


Tuesday March 25, 2008 7:37pm EST

BRISBANE, Australia - The House has held a closed session for the first time in 25 years and apparently discussed a hotly contested surveillance bill.

Republicans had requested privacy for what they termed "an honest debate" on the new Democratic eavesdropping measure.

Conspiracy theorists around the world have filled many pages of blogs and emails with theories as to why the public was prevented to hear what their elected representatives said and heard.

That is the nature of secrets: those "kept in the dark" want to know and in the absence of knowledge, seek answers.

Writers suggested that the special closed session of the U.S. House of Representatives discussed a lot more than the pending security surveillance provisions.

Last week's session was only the fourth time in 176 years that Congress has closed it's doors to the public.

Word has begun leaking from last weeks special, closed-door session of the United States House of Representatives.

Theorists wrote "Not only did members discuss new surveillance provisions as was the publicly stated reason for the closed door session, they also discussed: The imminent collapse of the U.S. economy to occur by September 2008, the imminent collapse of US federal government finances by February 2009, the possibility of Civil War inside the USA as a result of the collapse and advance round-ups of "insurgent U.S. citizens" likely to move against the government.

Also theorised was the detention of those rounded-up at "REX 84" camps constructed throughout the USA and the possibility of retaliation against members of Congress for the collapses and the location of "safe facilities" for members of Congress and their families to reside during expected massive civil unrest

Other answers included "the necessary and unavoidable merger of the United States with Canada" (for its natural resources) and with Mexico (for its cheap labor pool), the issuance of a new currency - THE AMERO - for all three nations as the proposed solution to the coming economic armageddon.

Members of Congress were FORBIDDEN to reveal what was discussed and ABC News via WCPO web site at the link below CONFIRMS congress members were FORBIDDEN to talk about it!

Several are so furious and concerned about the future of the country, they have begun leaking info. Also,reported in Financial Sense article---- part of article here:
ECONOMIC COLLAPSE IN SEPTEMBER?
by Clif Droke
May 19, 2008

A rumor is swirling around the Internet that an inglorious end to the U.S. economy is imminent. Unlike previous rumors to this effect, this one carries the weight of recent events in the financial realm and has many believing the rumor will come to pass.

Let’s examine some of the claims being made: On March 18, 2008, a “closed door” session of Congress was held for only the fourth time in history. According to House Rule XVII, clause 9, it is forbidden for members of the U.S. House of Representatives to reveal the discussions held behind those doors. The penalty for leaking such information includes loss of seniority, fines, reprimand, censure or expulsion. According to news sources, one purpose of the meetings was to discuss new surveillance techniques to be used by U.S. Homeland Security. Rumors continue to swirl as to what the other topics of discussion took place in that meeting.

According to the Australia.TO newspaper, as reported in the May 2008 Last Trumpet Newsletter (LTM), several congressmen were so incensed about what was discussed behind those doors that they were compelled to leak the contents of the meeting. Following is what is rumored to have been discussed: Imminent collapse of the U.S. economy by September 2008; imminent collapse of the U.S. Government finances by February 2009; possibility of civil war within the U.S. resulting from the collapse; detainment of “insurgent U.S. citizens” in anticipation of their moving against the government; the potential for violent action taken by citizens against members of Congress due to the collapses; the merger of the U.S. economy with those of Canada and Mexico as a solution to the collapse; the introduction of a new tri-national currency called the “AMERO” as another economic solution. And the LTN report of it here: MAY 2008

On the 13th day of March 2008, a rare "closed door" session was held by the United States House of Representatives. It was only the fourth time in the history of the United States that the House of Representatives closed the doors and met in absolute secrecy. Thus, those who were elected to represent the people of the United States would not allow the people to know what they were meeting about. Furthermore, House Rule XVII, clause 9, forbids the Representatives from revealing what was discussed. The penalty for leaking such information includes loss of seniority, fine, reprimand, censure, or expulsion! What went on behind those closed doors where every member was sworn to absolute secrecy, to always conceal and never reveal? We know that the only reason for secrecy is to hide evil. The news media said almost nothing about the secret conclave, but it was mentioned only that one of the items being discussed was the new surveillance techniques that are going to used by the U.S. Government to watch every American. (19)

After diligently searching for more information, I finally found what I was looking for in an Australian newspaper. The story appeared in Australia.TO from Brisbane, Australia. The article stated that ABC News via WCPO confirmed that Congress members were forbidden to talk about what went on in their secret meeting. Several of the Representatives, however, were so furious and concerned about the future of the country that they began leaking info. Here are some of the things that were reportedly leaked out regarding the secret meeting: Discussion regarding the imminent collapse of the U.S. economy to occur by September 2008 - The imminent collapse of the U.S. Government finances by February 2009 - The possibility of Civil War inside the United States as a result of the collapse - The advance round-ups of "insurgent U.S. citizens" likely to move against the government - The detention of those rounded up at REX 84 camps constructed throughout the United States - The possibility of public retaliation against members of Congress for the collapses - The location of safe facilities for members of Congress and their families to reside during massive civil unrest - the necessary and unavoidable merger of the United States with Canada and Mexico - The issuance of a new currency called the AMERO for all three nations as an economic solution. (20) Obviously, there is no documentary proof for the above as the meetings were secret. The information, however, does fit the profile of what is going on around us. Our Almighty Saviour is ultimately in charge. Time will tell if these things are so, and time is running out! NOTE: 2-14-09 1.The economy did collapse in Sept.2008,and to prevent chaos a "Bailout" of $750billion dollars was forced on Congress under threat of Martial Law and was passed.It has failed and it is a projected $8.5 Trillion Bailout to date.The people flooded their Reps with calls in opposition 1,000 to 1 against it,but it was passed.2.On Feb.13th,2009,a "stimulus" package of $787.5 Billion was passed without one person reading it.This confirms the 2nd part of the leaked information above regarding bankruptcy of the government.At this date,regardless of what transpires in the next few months,it is clear that the information leaked about that Closed Door Senate Session was and is true.Since last September,2008 articles regarding a New World Order and possible civil war and Martial Law in the USA are now in the mainstream media.Already,we are seeing riots across the globe against governments that are collapsing and experiencing the same tyrannical abuse of its people as is taking place here.There is open talk of the NAU and Amero now.There's also open talk of a coming "generated crisis" in the USA before July 5th, 2009.Over 20 States in the USA are trying to pass laws on state sovereignty to protect its rights against the Federal government when Martial Law takes place.Gun sales have gone through the roof in the past six months.It appears that the Illuminati is going to crush the US economy and thus the world's stock markets to bring in the cashless society and NWO.How many transitional phases will take place is anyone's guess.But the goal appears to be 2012.....4-16-09 July through September appears to be the timeframe for major events.They could be thwarted by patriots or postponed by the Luciferians,or hel back by God.But we must prepare for hard times....messenger

Gort said...

The Founding Fathers warned us about losing this Republic if we drop our faith and guard..... 'Tis done. We have become a nation.

Benjamin Rush, on the ratification of the Constitution, letter to Boudinot, July 9, 1788



A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue then will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader.

Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, February 12, 1779



A good government implies two things; first, fidelity to the objects of the government; secondly, a knowledge of the means, by which those objects can be best attained.

Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833



A lady asked Dr. Franklin Well Doctor what have we got a republic or a monarchy — "A republic," replied the Doctor, "if you can keep it."

Anonymous, from Farrand's Records of the Federal Convention of 1787



All good men wish the entire abolition of slavery, as soon as it can take place with safety to the public, and for the lasting good of the present wretched race of slaves. The only possible step that could be taken towards it by the convention was to fix a period after which they should not be imported.

Oliver Ellsworth, The Landholder, December 10, 1787



An honorable Peace is and always was my first wish! I can take no delight in the effusion of human Blood; but, if this War should continue, I wish to have the most active part in it.

John Paul Jones, letter to Gouverneur Morris, Sept 2, 1782



An unlimited power to tax involves, necessarily, a power to destroy; because there is a limit beyond which no institution and no property can bear taxation.

John Marshall, McCullough v. Maryland, 1819



And it is no less true, that personal security and private property rest entirely upon the wisdom, the stability, and the integrity of the courts of justice.

Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833



Another not unimportant consideration is, that the powers of the general government will be, and indeed must be, principally employed upon external objects, such as war, peace, negotiations with foreign powers, and foreign commerce. In its internal operations it can touch but few objects, except to introduce regulations beneficial to the commerce, intercourse, and other relations, between the states, and to lay taxes for the common good. The powers of the states, on the other hand, extend to all objects, which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, and liberties, and property of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the state.

Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833



As our president bears no resemblance to a king so we shall see the Senate has no similitude to nobles. First, not being hereditary, their collective knowledge, wisdom, and virtue are not precarious. For by these qualities alone are they to obtain their offices, and they will have none of the peculiar qualities and vices of those men who possess power merely because their father held it before them.

Tench Coxe, An American Citizen, No.2, September 28, 1787



Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.

Noah Webster, An Examination into the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, 1787



Besides, to lay and collect internal taxes in this extensive country must require a great number of congressional ordinances, immediately operation upon the body of the people; these must continually interfere with the state laws and thereby produce disorder and general dissatisfaction till the one system of laws or the other, operating upon the same subjects, shall be abolished.

Federal Farmer, Antifederalist Letter, October 10, 1787



But the safety of the people of America against dangers from foreign force depends not only on their forbearing to give just causes of war to other nations, but also on their placing and continuing themselves in such a situation as not to invite hostility or insult; for it need not be observed that there are pretended as well as just causes of war.

John Jay, Federalist No. 4



Don't fire unless fired upon. But if they want a war let it begin here.

Captain John Parker, commander of the militiamen at Lexington, Massachusetts, on siting British Troops (attributed), April 19, 1775



Dr. Franklin, looking towards the president's chair, at the back of which a rising sun happened to be painted, observed to a few members near him, that painters had found it difficult to distinguish in their art a rising sun from a setting sun. "I have," said he, "often and often in the course of this session and the vicissitude of my hopes and fears as to its issue, looked at that behind the president without being able to tell whether it was rising or setting: But now at length I have the happiness to know that it is a rising and not a setting sun."

Anonymous anecdote from the Constitutional Convention



Eloquence has been defined to be the art of persuasion. If it included persuasion by convincing, Mr. Madison was the most eloquent man I ever heard.

Patrick Henry, on James Madison, November 12, 1790



Every child in America should be acquainted with his own country. He should read books that furnish him with ideas that will be useful to him in life and practice. As soon as he opens his lips, he should rehearse the history of his own country.

Noah Webster, On the Education of Youth in America, 1788



Every person seems to acknowledge his greatness. He blends together the profound politician with the scholar.

William Pierce, on James Madison, 1787



Far from being rivals or enemies, religion and law are twin sisters, friends, and mutual assistants. Indeed, these two sciences run into each other. The divine law, as discovered by reason and the moral sense, forms an essential part of both.

James Wilson

Gort said...

Apuzzo asks where the conspiracy is... http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/04/where-is-conspiracy.html This is the problem.Conspiracies are real.The Fascist takeover of the world is real.The Barry POTUS eligibility is a conspiracy as well.It only takes two or more people conspiring together against others to have a conspiracy.The facts Apuzzo laid out are good.But there was and is a conspiracy in all this.I needn't rehash them here.The American Revolution was a conspiracy for Pete's sake.RICO was put into law to combat criminal conspiracies.The HSSC conceded a conspiracy in the JFK assassination back in the 1970s.Watergate was a conspiracy.The list of conspiracies are numerous throughout history."Conspiracy" is not a dirty word.We live in an Orwellian world of Newspeak where words like racist,conspiracy,kool-aid,tin foil hat,et al frighten people from accepting reality.

Gort said...

Constitutional Rights

First Amendment (protects freedom of religion, free speech, freedom of the press and the right to peaceably assemble)
Examples:

Denial of permit to march, leaflet or speak in a public place--

Glasson v. City of Louisville, 518 F.2d 899 (6th Cir.), cert. denied, 423 U.S. 930 (1975).

Arrest of speaker at political rally --

Kay v. N.H. Dem. Party, 821 F.2d 31 (1st Cir. 1987).

Harassment of religious organization --

Nashua Valley Christian Fellowship, Inc. v. Town of Ayer, 623 F. Supp. 542 (D. Mass. 1985).

Ejection of citizen from public meeting --

Hansen v. Bennett, 948 F.2d 397 (7th Cir. 1991), cert. denied, 112 S.Ct. 1939 (1992).

Fourth Amendment (protects right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures; provides that warrants shall issue only upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation)
Examples:

False arrest --

Posr v. Doherty, 944 F.2d 91 (2d Cir. 1991).

False imprisonment or illegal detention --

Eberle v. City of Anaheim, 901 F.2d 814 (9th Cir. 1990).

Warrantless search --

Tyree v. Keane, 400 Mass. 1 (1987).

Warrantless arrest --

Fields v. City of S. Houston, 922 F.2d 1183 (5th Cir. 1991).

Failure to timely release pretrial detainee --

Brown v. Coughlin, 704 F. Supp. 41 (S.D.N.Y. 1989).

Apprehension of suspect by use of deadly force --

Tennessee v. Garner, 105 S.Ct. 1694 (1985).

Apprehension of suspect with excessive force --

Graham v. Connor, 109 S.Ct. 1865 (1989).

Police pursuit --

Horta v. Sullivan, 4 F.3d 2 (1st Cir. 1993).

Sixth Amendment (protects right to an attorney in criminal proceedings)
Example:

Information garnered from surreptitious monitoring of conversations with attorney used to prejudice claimant's defense in criminal trial --

Weatherford v. Bursey, 429 U.S. 545 (1977);
St. Clair v. Schriber, 916 F.2d 1109 (6th Cir. 1990).

Eighth Amendment (prohibits cruel and unusual punishment)
Examples:

Inmate assaulted by guards --

Whitley v. Albers, 475 U.S. 312 (1986).

Inmate assaulted by fellow inmates --

Davidson v. Cannon, 474 U.S. 344 (1986);
Berry v. City of Muskogee, Okla., 900 F.2d 1489 (10th Cir. 1990).

Inmate denied certain privileges, such as visitation, practice of religious beliefs, access to legal materials, mail, etc. --

Sowell v. Vose, 941 F.2d 32 (1st Cir. 1991).

Inattention to medical needs of inmate --

Estelle v. Gamble, 429 U.S. 97 (1976);
Sires v. Berman, 834 F.2d 9 (1st Cir. 1987).

Suicide of inmate --

Rogers v. Evans, 792 F.2d 1052 (11th Cir. 1986).

Fourteenth Amendment (a person's rights to life, liberty or property shall not be deprived without due process of law, nor shall any person be denied equal protection of the laws)
Examples:

Punishment of pretrial detainee --

Redman v. County of San Diego, 942 F.2d 1435 (9th Cir.), cert. denied, 112 S.Ct. 972 (1991).

Inattention to medical needs of pretrial detainee --

Holmes v. Sheahan, 930 F.2d 1196 (7th Cir.), cert. denied, 112 S.Ct. 423 (1991);
Gaudreault v. Municipality of Salem, 923 F.2d 203 (1st Cir.), cert. denied, 111 S.Ct. 2266 (1990).

Suicide of pretrial detainee --

Colburn v. Upper Darby Township, 838 F.2d 663 (3d Cir. 1988), cert. denied, 109 S.Ct. 1338 (1989);
Manarite v. City of Springfield, 957 F.2d 953 (1st Cir.), cert. denied, 113 S.Ct. 113 (1992).

Any conduct that "shocks the conscience" or "offends the community's sense of fair play and decency" --

Rochin v. California, 342 U.S. 165 (1952);
Pittsley v. Warish, 927 F.2d 3 (1st Cir. 1991).

Illegal interrogation or extraction of involuntary confession--

Rex v. Teeples, 753 F.2d 840 (10th Cir.), cert. denied, 474 U.S. 967 (1985);
Cooper v. Dupnik, 963 F.2d 1220 (9th Cir. 1992).

Arrests of minorities --

Davis v. Frapolly, 747 F. Supp. 451 (N.D. Ill. 1989).

Selective enforcement of statute or regulation on the basis of race --

Mustfov v. Rice, 663 F. Supp. 1255 (N.D. Ill. 1987).

Deliberate denial of police protection on racial grounds --

Mody v. City of Hoboken, 959 F.2d 461 (3d Cir. 1992).

Federal Statutory Rights
Violation of a federal statute may also give rise to liability under 42 U.S. §1983 (and other civil rights remedies) if (1) the statute confers substantive rights, and is not merely a congressional declaration of policy; and (2) the statute does not expressly foreclose use of a civil rights remedy. Pennhurst State School & Hosp. v. Halderman, 451 U.S. 1 (1981). A few of the federal statutes which will support a Section 1983 claim are:

Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42 U.S.C. §2000e) --
designed to ensure equal employment opportunities without discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion, sex or national origin

Individuals With Disabilities Education Act (20U.S.C. §§1400, et seq.) --
designed to ensure that handicapped children receive education appropriate to their needs

Religious Freedom Restoration Act (42 U.S.C. §2000bb) --
designed to limit government restrictions on the free exercise of religion

Vocational Rehabilitation Act (29 U.S.C. §§701, et seq.) --
guarantees equal opportunity of vocational rehabilitation and independent living for individuals with handicaps

Anonymous said...

THE PSYCHOPATHIC SCHOOL
The Failure of Modern Public Education


This is taken from John Taylor Gatto's book, Dumbing Us Down: The Hidden Curriculum of Compulsory Schooling

This speech was given by the author on 31 January 1990 in accepting an award from the New York State Senate naming him New York City Teacher of the Year.

THE PSYCHOPATHIC SCHOOL

I accept this award on behalf of all the fine teachers I've known over the years who've struggled to make their transactions with children honorable ones, men and women who were never complacent, always questioning, always wrestling to define and redefine what the word "education" should mean. A Teacher of the Year is not the best teacher around (those people are too quiet to be easily uncovered), but she or he is a standard-bearer, representative of these private people who spend their lives gladly in the service of children. This is their award as well as mine.

1 .
We live in a time of great school crisis linked to an even greater social crisis. Our nation ranks at the bottom of nineteen industrial nations in reading, writing, and arithmetic. At the very bottom. The world's narcotic economy is based upon our consumption of this commodity; if we didn't buy so many powdered dreams the business would collapse - and schools are an important sales outlet. Our teenage suicide rate is the highest in the world, and suicidal kids are rich kids for the most part, not the poor. In Manhattan, seventy percent of all new marriages last less than five years. So something is wrong for sure.

This great crisis which we witness in our schools is interlinked with a greater social crisis in the community. We seem to have lost our identity. Children and old people are penned up and locked away from the business of the world to a degree without precedent; nobody talks to them anymore, and without children and old people mixing in daily life; a community has no future and no past, only a continuous present. In fact the name "community" hardly applies to the way we interact with each other. We live in networks, not communities, and everyone I know is lonely because of that. School is a major actor in this tragedy, as it is a major actor in the widening gulf among social classes. Using school as a sorting mechanism, we appear to be on the way to creating a caste system, complete with untouchables who wander through subway trains begging and who sleep upon the streets.

I've noticed a fascinating phenomenon in my twenty-five years of teaching: that schools and schooling are increasingly irrelevant to the great enterprises of the planet. No one believes anymore that scientists are trained in science classes or politicians in civics classes or poets in English classes. The truth is that schools don't really teach anything except how to obey orders. This is a great mystery to me because thousands of humane, caring people work in schools, as teachers and aides and administrators, but the abstract logic of the institution overwhelms their individual contributions. Although teachers do care and do work very, very hard, the institution is psychopathic; it has no conscience. It rings a bell and the young man in the middle of writing a poem must close his notebook and move to a different cell where he must memorize that humans and monkeys derive from a common ancestor.

2 .
Our form of compulsory schooling is an invention of the State of Massachusetts around 1850. It was resisted - sometimes with guns - by an estimated eighty percent of the Massachusetts population, the last outpost in Barnstable on Cape Cod not surrendering its children until the 1880s, when the area was seized by militia and children marched to school under guard.

Now here is a curious idea to ponder. Senator Ted Kennedy's office released a paper not too long ago that prior to compulsory education the state literacy rate was ninety-eight percent, and after it the figure never exceeded ninety-one percent, where it stands in 1990.

Here is another curiosity to think about. The home-schooling movement has quietly grown to a size where one and half million young people are being educated entirely by their own parents; last month the education press reported the amazing news that children schooled at home seem to be five or even ten years ahead of their formally trained peers in their ability to think.

3.
1 don't think we'll get rid of schools any time soon, certainly not in my lifetime, but if we're going to change what's rapidly becoming a disaster of ignorance, we need to realize that the school institution "schools" very well, though it does not "educate;" that's inherent in the design of the thing. It's not the fault of bad teachers or too little money spent. It's just impossible for education and schooling ever to be the same thing.

Schools were designed by Horace Mann and by Sears and Harper of the University of Chicago and by Thorndyke of Columbia Teachers College and by some other men to be instruments of the scientific management of a mass population. Schools are intended to produce, through the application of formulas, formulaic human beings whose behavior can be predicted and controlled.

To a very great extent schools succeed in doing this, but in a national order increasingly disintegrated, in a national order in which the only "successful" people are independent, self-reliant, confident, and individualistic (because community life which protects the dependent and the weak is dead and only networks remain), the products of schooling are, as I've said, irrelevant. Well-schooled people are irrelevant. They can sell film and razor blades, push paper and talk on telephones, or sit mindlessly before a flickering computer terminal, but as human beings they are useless. Useless to others and useless to themselves.

The daily misery around us is, I think, in large measure caused by the fact that, as Paul Goodman put it thirty years ago, we force children to grow up absurd. Any reform in schooling has to deal with its absurdities.

It is absurd and anti-life to be part of a system that compels you to sit in confinement with people of exactly the same age and social class. That system effectively cuts you off from the immense diversity of life and the synergy of variety; indeed it cuts you off from your own past and future, sealing you in a continuous present much the same way television does.

It is absurd and anti-life to move from cell to cell at the sound of a gong for every day of your natural youth in an institution that allows you no privacy and even follows you into the sanctuary of your home demanding that you do its "homework."

"How will they learn to read?" you ask, and my answer is "Remember the lessons of Massachusetts." When children are given whole lives instead of age-graded ones in cellblocks they learn to read, write, and do arithmetic with ease, if those things make sense in the kind of life that unfolds around them.

But keep in mind that in the United States almost nobody who reads, writes, or does arithmetic gets much respect. We are a land of talkers; we pay talkers the most and admire talkers the most and so our children talk constantly, following the public models of television and schoolteachers. It is very difficult to teach the "basics" anymore because they really aren't basic to the society we've made.

4.
Two institutions at present control our children's lives: television and schooling, in that order. Both of these reduce the real world of wisdom, fortitude, temperance, and justice to a never-ending, nonstop abstraction. In centuries past, the time of childhood and adolescence would have been occupied in real work, real charity, real adventures, and the realistic search for mentors who might teach what you really wanted to learn. A great deal of time was spent in community pursuits, practicing affection, meeting and studying every level of the community, learning how to make a home, and dozens of other tasks necessary to becoming a whole man or woman.

But here is the calculus of time the children I teach must deal with:

Out of the 168 hours in each week my children sleep 56. That leaves them 112 hours a week out of which to fashion a self.
According to recent reports children watch 55 hours of television a week. That then leaves them 57 hours a week in which to grow up.

My children attend school 30 hours a week, use about 8 hours getting ready for and traveling to and from school, and spend an average of 7 hours a week in homework - a total of 45 hours. During that time they are under constant surveillance. They have no private time or private space and are disciplined if they try to assert individuality in the use of time or space. That leaves them 12 hours a week out of which to create a unique consciousness. Of course my kids eat, too, and that takes some time - not much because they've lost the tradition of family dining - but if we allot 3 hours a week to evening meals we arrive at a net amount of private time for each child of 9 hours per week.

It's not enough, is it? The richer the kid, of course, the less television he or she watches, but the rich kid's time is just as narrowly prescribed by a somewhat broader catalogue of commercial entertainments and the inevitable assignment to a series of private lessons in areas seldom of his or her own choice.
But these activities are just a more cosmetic way to create dependent human beings, unable to fill their own hours, unable to initiate lines of meaning to give substance and pleasure to their existence. It's a national disease, this dependency and aimlessness, and I think schooling and television and lessons have a lot to do with it.

Think of the phenomena which are killing us as a nation - narcotic drugs, brainless competition, recreational sex, the pornography of violence, gambling, and alcohol, and the worst pornography of all: lives devoted to buying things, accumulation as a philosophy -all of these are addictions of dependent personalities, and this is what our brand of schooling must inevitably produce.

5.
I want to tell you what the effect on our children is of taking all their time from them - time they need to grow up - and forcing them to spend it on abstractions.You need to hear this because any reform that doesn't attack these specific pathologies will be nothing more than a facade.

1. The children I teach are indifferent to the adult world. This defies the experience of thousands of years. A close study of what big people were up to was always the most exciting occupation of youth, but nobody wants children to grow up these days, least of all the children: and who can blame them? Toys are us.
2. The children I teach have almost no curiosity, and what little they do have is transitory. They cannot concentrate for very long, even on things they choose to do. Can you see a connection between the bells ringing again and again to change classes and this phenomenon of evanescent attention?

3. The children I teach have a poor sense of the future, of how tomorrow is inextricably linked to today. As I said before, they live in a continuous present, the exact moment they are in is the boundary of their consciousness.

4. The children I teach are ahistorical; they have no sense of how the past has predestinated their own present, limiting their choices, shaping their values and lives.

5. The children I teach are cruel to each other; they lack compassion for misfortune; they laugh at weakness: they have contempt for people whose need for help shows too plainly.

6. The children I teach are uneasy with intimacy or candor. They cannot deal with genuine intimacy because of a lifelong habit of preserving a secret inner self inside a larger outer personality made up of artificial bits and pieces of behavior borrowed from television or acquired to manipulate teachers. Because they are not who they represent themselves to be, the disguise wears thin in the presence of intimacy; so intimate relationships have to be avoided.

7. The children I teach are materialistic, following the lead of schoolteachers who materialistically "grade everything' and television mentors who offer everything in the world for sale.

8. The children I teach are dependent, passive, and timid in the presence of new challenges. This timidity is frequently masked by surface bravado, or by anger or aggressiveness, but underneath is a vacuum without fortitude.

I could name a few other conditions that school reform will have to tackle if our national decline is to be arrested, but by now you will have grasped my thesis, whether you agree with it or not. Either schools have caused these pathologies, or television has, or both. It's a simple matter of arithmetic - between schooling and television, all the time the children have is eaten up. There simply isn't enough other time in the experience of our kids for there to be other significant causes. ...................m

Anonymous said...

Here's a link of the hand reaching for a crown in space....m http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/space/04/14/space.hand/index.html

Anonymous said...

It looks like Perry is following in Beck's footsteps....m http://www.henrymakow.com/test.html

Anonymous said...

Freeman's take on Barry as Pharoah. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqZBTzx7lp0 Bizarre theory.Interesting only because there is Biblical support of Americans being led into bondage-- Barry being an Anti-Moses type.Even some non-christians see through Barry....m

Anonymous said...

Steve Quayle and Alex Jones talk about the black pyramid that replced the covered IHS symbol at Georgetwon University.This is another view of Barry a Pharoah type from a Christian perspective.The antichrist position by Barry is in plain view...m http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfDIDdSTeMU

Anonymous said...

Steve Quayle posted this yesterday,--- ORANGE ALERT: To all those who have taken an oath to defend the U.S. against all enemies foreign and domestic - BE ADVISED of the following:


Over the next 6 months, law enforcement and the military will be given unlawful and illegal orders to round up and purge all dissidents against the New World Order crowd. The purge is the systematic liquidation of all those identified as a threat against the Globalist Plan. Furthermore, all TEA Party participants have been filmed and their license plate information taken by all FBI Special Agents in charge at all the rallies. Consider the ramifications... Since coming to office, the current regime has devoted massive amounts of money and Federal Spy Agency assets to identifying gun owners and those in the military who still love this Country and take their oath seriously. All former combat Veterans, Special Forces, Green Berets, Delta, and Spec operations personnel must absolutely change your physical location and TELL NO ONE! With DHS having validated the Seek and Destroy Lists, their plans are now being set in motion! Does it not make you furious that men and women in the Armed Forces who have fought all these years for the principles that the Constitutional Republic ONCE Stood for, are now deemed terrorists by the DHS along with Constitutionalists, Christians, gun owners and those who speak out against the foreign destruction of America's economy. Domestic security is now defined as "quell all first amendment rights. Period!" Whether false flag or intentional acts of globalist terror incidents, the events will be orchestrated to blame the "DHS hit list people". Whether you know it or not, by painting conservatives and people who are against the New World Order with such a "terroristic civil rights violating hit piece" you have not only been vilified but have been targeted for extermination. Anyone who would follow orders to take your guns away will not hesitate to BLOW YOU AWAY. History has proven this time and time again! The Psalmist wrote "If the foundations be destroyed what shall the righteous do?" Our only Hope is to repent and cry out to the Living God and seek his personal direction and guidance. While we can not stop the hand of Divine Judgment, we can know our God and do exploits! Write your Senators and Congressmen and women — scream at the top of your lungs, write editorials; do all that you can do legally. But remember, very soon when they initiate their attacks, you will have no one to blame except yourselves while there is still a whisper of time to make a difference for Righteousness Sake.
DO NOT ALLOW THESE PLANS FOR SLAUGHTER TO GO UNOPPOSED! _______________________________________________________________________ The interview Steve had with Alex Jones is good.Greg Evenson mentioned "stupefying" information he has gotten from insders,and said he was crooschecking it with Quayle and others and will release it next Saturday on his radio show.I'm sure the above subject matter is what it is all about.This year appears to be the one for the destruction of the USA.Some will call this fearmongering,but the signs of the police state are everywhere these days.Jones is bombastic and is what I would call a fearmonger,but overall his information is good.And now is the time to sound the alarm of what is coming dwon.He should get off the fence though.Jones always uses the word "scientific" for his analysis and that he has many atheists and agnostic listeners,and they need to know the globnalists are Luciferians and satanists.True,but he should also explain this is a spiritual war we are in and that Jesus Christ is the anmswer.I agree with Quayle that this crackdown can't be stopped,but exposre may buy us some time...messenger _________________________________________________________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRfQT_KcpHM

Anonymous said...

Gerald Celente here---- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkW4oS-M1lY Gerald correctly states that this isn't Kooky" moves by Barry,but outright Fascism...m

Anonymous said...

Barry's Americrps plan -- http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090421/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_national_service Take note of the deceptive spin of the article...m

Anonymous said...

Barry's breakneck pace with Marxist policies noted here...m--- http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/gorbachev-the-model-for-the-obama-doctrine-1671655.html

Anonymous said...

Black Pharoah article...m ---- http://www.texemarrs.com/092008/black_pharaoh.htm

Anonymous said...

Good video on the race card used by the PC crowd.I've heard the filmmaker in interviews. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1084394769627714346&ei=abHuScXDCJO4_AHTpqGbCQ&q=Craig+Bodeker%3A+A+Conversation+about+Race&hl=en

Anonymous said...

The video on race shows how brainwashed people of all races are to view whites as racists.This was the Cultural Marxism brought to the West in the 1960s.This is a big factor in the destruction of the West.Never before in history has a race aided in their own destruction.This is not centered in the USA alone,but all over the West.Which is why their are riots and civil unrest in tandem with the outrage at government tyranny.When the foreigners are given preferential treatment it builds contempt and resentment,even in the dumbed down masses,although they are confused and in denial. http://www.reversespins.com/pcmarx.html

Anonymous said...

The Oath Keeprs speeches are linked at the website http://oath-keepers.blogspot.com/ Part 4 & 5 are excellent.The guy mentions that Michael New was the only man in his unit to stand up for the Constitution.

Anonymous said...

This is an email to Quayle in response to his Orange Alert post this week.Quayle will be on John Stadtmiller's radio show tomoorow. _______________________________________________________________________ Retired Navy Seal Agrees With Orange Alert

Read your Orange Alert and passed it on to my ex Navy Seal friend and his take is as follows: He agrees with your assessment but thinks the time frame is more likely to be by July of this year. He also says shiploads of Hamas fighters are being sent to this country and if this is a fact, it would explain Obama's brain fart to send 100,000 of our troops to Afghanistan so they would not be in play to fight against the foreign "invasion". A perfect place to "hide" these Hamas fighters would be, in my opinion, in all of the Concentration Camp facilities located throughout the U.S. When the takeover order is given it will be total bedlam when the Hamas fighters are deployed and start the war on our soil. Yes we have many citizens with guns and such but are you aware there is a critical shortage of ammo? No bullet no bango! I hope you tell me I'm a bit short of a full deck but I smell a rat of tremendous size if all this comes to pass. Keep up the good work Steve. ______________________________________________________________________ radio show link-- 4-6 pm central time tomorrow-- http://republicbroadcasting.org/

Gort said...

I've mentioned the Georgia Guidestones in the past here.Below is an article that covers the history behind it.The recent talks about GM closing plants for 9 weeks[smirk]-and tobacco giants closing,along with growing unemployment translates to millions of disgruntled Americans ready for the planned civil war coming soon.And yes,the race wars and blakanization of America is a part of all this.__________________________________________________________________ American Stonehenge: Monumental Instructions for the Post-Apocalypse
By Randall Sullivan 04.20.09
The Georgia Guidestones may be the most enigmatic monument in the US: huge slabs of granite, inscribed with directions for rebuilding civilization after the apocalypse. Only one man knows who created them—and he's not talking.
Photo: Dan Winters
The Georgia Guidestones Guidebook
Published by Elberton Granite in 1981: Download Complete Book [70MB PDF] The strangest monument in America looms over a barren knoll in northeastern Georgia. Five massive slabs of polished granite rise out of the earth in a star pattern. The rocks are each 16 feet tall, with four of them weighing more than 20 tons apiece. Together they support a 25,000-pound capstone. Approaching the edifice, it's hard not to think immediately of England's Stonehenge or possibly the ominous monolith from 2001: A Space Odyssey. Built in 1980, these pale gray rocks are quietly awaiting the end of the world as we know it.

Called the Georgia Guidestones, the monument is a mystery—nobody knows exactly who commissioned it or why. The only clues to its origin are on a nearby plaque on the ground—which gives the dimensions and explains a series of intricate notches and holes that correspond to the movements of the sun and stars—and the "guides" themselves, directives carved into the rocks. These instructions appear in eight languages ranging from English to Swahili and reflect a peculiar New Age ideology. Some are vaguely eugenic (guide reproduction wisely—improving fitness and diversity); others prescribe standard-issue hippie mysticism (prize truth—beauty—love—seeking harmony with the infinite).

What's most widely agreed upon—based on the evidence available—is that the Guidestones are meant to instruct the dazed survivors of some impending apocalypse as they attempt to reconstitute civilization. Not everyone is comfortable with this notion. A few days before I visited, the stones had been splattered with polyurethane and spray-painted with graffiti, including slogans like "Death to the new world order." This defacement was the first serious act of vandalism in the Guidestones' history, but it was hardly the first objection to their existence. In fact, for more than three decades this uncanny structure in the heart of the Bible Belt has been generating responses that range from enchantment to horror. Supporters (notable among them Yoko Ono) have praised the messages as a stirring call to rational thinking, akin to Thomas Paine's The Age of Reason. Opponents have attacked them as the Ten Commandments of the Antichrist.

Whoever the anonymous architects of the Guidestones were, they knew what they were doing: The monument is a highly engineered structure that flawlessly tracks the sun. It also manages to engender endless fascination, thanks to a carefully orchestrated aura of mystery. And the stones have attracted plenty of devotees to defend against folks who would like them destroyed. Clearly, whoever had the monument placed here understood one thing very well: People prize what they don't understand at least as much as what they do.

The story of the Georgia Guidestones began on a Friday afternoon in June 1979, when an elegant gray-haired gentleman showed up in Elbert County, made his way to the offices of Elberton Granite Finishing, and introduced himself as Robert C. Christian. He claimed to represent "a small group of loyal Americans" who had been planning the installation of an unusually large and complex stone monument. Christian had come to Elberton—the county seat and the granite capital of the world—because he believed its quarries produced the finest stone on the planet.

Joe Fendley, Elberton Granite's president, nodded absently, distracted by the rush to complete his weekly payroll. But when Christian began to describe the monument he had in mind, Fendley stopped what he was doing. Not only was the man asking for stones larger than any that had been quarried in the county, he also wanted them cut, finished, and assembled into some kind of enormous astronomical instrument.

What in the world would it be for? Fendley asked. Christian explained that the structure he had in mind would serve as a compass, calendar, and clock. It would also need to be engraved with a set of guides written in eight of the world's major languages. And it had to be capable of withstanding the most catastrophic events, so that the shattered remnants of humanity would be able to use those guides to reestablish a better civilization than the one that was about to destroy itself.





Monumental Precision
Built to survive the apocalypse, the Georgia Guidestones are not merely instructions for the future—the massive granite slabs also function as a clock, calendar, and compass.


The monument sits at the highest point in Elbert County and is oriented to track the sun's east-west migration year-round.

On an equinox or solstice, visitors who stand at the west side of the "mail slot" are positioned to see the sun rise on the horizon.

An eye-level hole drilled into the center support stone allows stargazers on the south side to locate Polaris, the North Star.

A 7/8-inch hole drilled through the capstone focuses a sunbeam on the center column and at noon pinpoints the day of the year.


Text: Erik Malinowski; illustration: Steve Sanford



Fendley is now deceased, but shortly after the Guidestones went up, an Atlanta television reporter asked what he was thinking when he first heard Christian's plan. "I was thinking, 'I got a nut in here now. How am I going get him out?'" Fendley said. He attempted to discourage the man by quoting him a price several times higher than for any project commissioned there before. The job would require special tools, heavy equipment, and paid consultants, Fendley explained. But Christian merely nodded and asked how long it would take. Fendley didn't rightly know—six months, at least. He wouldn't be able to even consider such an undertaking, he added, until he knew it could be paid for. When Christian asked whether there was a banker in town he considered trustworthy, Fendley saw his chance to unload the strange man and sent him to look for Wyatt Martin, president of the Granite City Bank.

The tall and courtly Martin—the only man in Elberton besides Fendley known to have met R. C. Christian face-to-face—is now 78. "Fendley called me and said, 'A kook over here wants some kind of crazy monument,'" Martin says. "But when this fella showed up he was wearing a very nice, expensive suit, which made me take him a little more seriously. And he was well-spoken, obviously an educated person." Martin was naturally taken aback when the man told him straight out that R. C. Christian was a pseudonym. He added that his group had been planning this secretly for 20 years and wanted to remain anonymous forever. "And when he told me what it was he and this group wanted to do, I just about fell over," Martin says. "I told him, 'I believe you'd be just as well off to take the money and throw it out in the street into the gutters.' He just sort of looked at me and shook his head, like he felt kinda sorry for me, and said, 'You don't understand.'"

Martin led Christian down the street to the town square, where the city had commissioned a towering Bicentennial Memorial Fountain, which included a ring of 13 granite panels, each roughly 2 by 3 feet, signifying the original colonies. "I told him that was about the biggest project ever undertaken around here, and it was nothing compared to what he was talking about," Martin says. "That didn't seem to bother him at all." Promising to return on Monday, the man went off to charter a plane and spend the weekend scouting locations from the air. "By then I half believed him," Martin says.

When Christian came back to the bank Monday, Martin explained that he could not proceed unless he could verify the man's true identity and "get some assurance you can pay for this thing." Eventually, the two negotiated an agreement: Christian would reveal his real name on the condition that Martin promise to serve as his sole intermediary, sign a confidentiality agreement pledging never to disclose the information to another living soul, and agree to destroy all documents and records related to the project when it was finished. "He said he was going to send the money from different banks across the country," Martin says, "because he wanted to make sure it couldn't be traced. He made it clear that he was very serious about secrecy."

Before leaving town, Christian met again with Fendley and presented the contractor with a shoe box containing a wooden model of the monument he wanted, plus 10 or so pages of detailed specifications. Fendley accepted the model and instructions but remained skeptical until Martin phoned the following Friday to say he had just received a $10,000 deposit. After that, Fendley stopped questioning and started working. "My daddy loved a challenge," says Fendley's daughter, Melissa Fendley Caruso, "and he said this was the most challenging project in the history of Elbert County."

Construction of the Guidestones got under way later that summer. Fendley's company lovingly documented the progress of the work in hundreds of photographs. Jackhammers were used to gouge 114 feet into the rock at Pyramid Quarry, searching for hunks of granite big enough to yield the final stones. Fendley and his crew held their breath when the first 28-ton slab was lifted to the surface, wondering if their derricks would buckle under the weight. A special burner (essentially a narrowly focused rocket motor used to cut and finish large blocks of granite) was trucked to Elberton to clean and size the stones, and a pair of master stonecutters was hired to smooth them.

Fendley and Martin helped Christian find a suitable site for the Guidestones in Elbert County: a flat-topped hill rising above the pastures of the Double 7 Farms, with vistas in all directions. For $5,000, owner Wayne Mullinex signed over a 5-acre plot. In addition to the payment, Christian granted lifetime cattle-grazing rights to Mullinex and his children, and Mullinex's construction company got to lay the foundation for the Guidestones.

With the purchase of the land, the Guidestones' future was set. Christian said good-bye to Fendley at the granite company office, adding, "You'll never see me again." Christian then turned and walked out the door—without so much as a handshake.

From then on, Christian communicated solely through Martin, writing a few weeks later to ask that ownership of the land and monument be transferred to Elbert County, which still holds it. Christian reasoned that civic pride would protect it over time. "All of Mr. Christian's correspondence came from different cities around the country," Martin says. "He never sent anything from the same place twice."


Daybreak: A carefully cut slot in the Guidestones' center column frames the sunrise on solstices and equinoxes.
Photo: Dan Winters
The astrological specifications for the Guidestones were so complex that Fendley had to retain the services of an astronomer from the University of Georgia to help implement the design. The four outer stones were to be oriented based on the limits of the sun's yearly migration. The center column needed two precisely calibrated features: a hole through which the North Star would be visible at all times, and a slot that was to align with the position of the rising sun during the solstices and equinoxes. The principal component of the capstone was a 7\8-inch aperture through which a beam of sunlight would pass at noon each day, shining on the center stone to indicate the day of the year.

The main feature of the monument, though, would be the 10 dictates carved into both faces of the outer stones, in eight languages: English, Spanish, Russian, Chinese, Arabic, Hebrew, Hindi, and Swahili. A mission statement of sorts (let these be guidestones to an age of reason) was also to be engraved on the sides of the capstone in Egyptian hieroglyphics, classical Greek, Sanskrit, and Babylonian cuneiform. The United Nations provided some of the translations (including those for the dead languages), which were stenciled onto the stones and etched with a sandblaster.

By early 1980, a bulldozer was scraping the Double 7 hilltop to bedrock, where five granite slabs serving as a foundation were laid out in a paddle-wheel design. A 100-foot-tall crane was used to lift the stones into place. Each of the outer rocks was 16 feet 4 inches high, 6 feet 6 inches wide, and 1 foot 7 inches thick. The center column was the same (except only half the width), and the capstone measured 9 feet 8 inches long, 6 feet 6 inches wide, and 1 foot 7 inches thick. Including the foundation stones, the monument's total weight was almost 240,000 pounds. Covered with sheets of black plastic in preparation for an unveiling on the vernal equinox, the Guidestones towered over the cattle that continued to graze beneath it at the approach of winter's end.

The monument ignited controversy before it was even finished. The first rumor began among members of the Elberton Granite Association, jealous of the attention being showered on one of their own: Fendley was behind the whole thing, they said, aided by his friend Martin, the banker. The gossip became so poisonous that the two men agreed to take a lie detector test at the Elberton Civic Center. The scandal withered when The Elberton Star reported that they had both passed convincingly, but the publicity brought a new wave of complaints. As word of what was being inscribed spread, Martin recalls, even people he considered friends asked him why he was doing the devil's work. A local minister, James Travenstead, predicted that "occult groups" would flock to the Guidestones, warning that "someday a sacrifice will take place here." Those inclined to agree were hardly discouraged by Charlie Clamp, the sandblaster charged with carving each of the 4,000-plus characters on the stones: During the hundreds of hours he spent etching the guides, Clamp said, he had been constantly distracted by "strange music and disjointed voices."


The team that built the Guidestones didn't know who was financing the project—just that it was the biggest monument in county history. Local banker Wyatt Martin inspects the English lettering with sandblaster Charlie Clamp before the 1980 unveiling.
Photo: Courtesy of Fendley Enterprises Inc.
The unveiling on March 22, 1980, was a community celebration. Congressmember Doug Barnard, whose district contained Elberton, addressed a crowd of 400 that flowed down the hillside and included television news crews from Atlanta. Soon Joe Fendley was the most famous Elbertonian since Daniel Tucker, the 18th-century minister memorialized in the folk song "Old Dan Tucker." Bounded by the Savannah and Broad rivers but miles from the nearest interstate—"as rural as rural can be," in the words of current Star publisher Gary Jones—Elberton was suddenly a tourist destination, with visitors from all over the world showing up to see the Guidestones. "We'd have people from Japan and China and India and everywhere wanting to go up and see the monument," Martin says. And Fendley's boast that he had "put Elberton on the map" was affirmed literally in spring 2005, when National Geographic Traveler listed the Guidestones as a feature in its Geotourism MapGuide to Appalachia.

But many who read what was written on the stones were unsettled. Guide number one was, of course, the real stopper: maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. There were already 4.5 billion people on the planet, meaning eight out of nine had to go (today it would be closer to 12 out of 13). This instruction was echoed and expanded by tenet number two: guide reproduction wisely—improving fitness and diversity. It didn't take a great deal of imagination to draw an analogy to the practices of, among others, the Nazis. Guide number three instructed readers to unite humanity with a living new language. This sent a shiver up the spine of local ministers who knew that the Book of Revelations warned of a common tongue and a one-world government as the accomplishments of the Antichrist. Guide number four—rule passion—faith—tradition—and all things with tempered reason—was similarly threatening to Christians committed to the primacy of faith over all. The last six guides were homiletic by comparison. protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts. let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court. avoid petty laws and useless officials. balance personal rights with social duties. prize truth—beauty—love—seeking harmony with the infinite. be not a cancer on the earth—leave room for nature—leave room for nature.

Even as locals debated the relative merits of these commandments, the dire predictions of Travenstead seemed to be coming true. Within a few months, a coven of witches from Atlanta adopted the Guidestones as their home away from home, making weekend pilgrimages to Elberton to stage various pagan rites ("dancing and chanting and all that kind of thing," Martin says) and at least one warlock-witch marriage ceremony. No humans were sacrificed on the altar of the stones, but there are rumors that several chickens were beheaded. A 1981 article in the monthly magazine UFO Report cited Naunie Batchelder (identified in the story as "a noted Atlanta psychic") as predicting that the true purpose of the guides would be revealed "within the next 30 years." Viewed from directly overhead, the Guidestones formed an X, the piece in UFO Report observed, making for a perfect landing site.

Visitors kept coming, but after several failed investigations into the identity of R. C. Christian, the media lost interest. Curiosity flared again briefly in 1993, when Yoko Ono contributed a track called "Georgia Stone" to a tribute album for avant-garde composer John Cage, with Ono chanting the 10th and final guide nearly verbatim: "Be not a cancer on Earth—leave room for nature—leave room for nature." A decade later, however, when comedienne Roseanne Barr tried to work a bit on the Guidestones into her comeback tour, nobody seemed to care.

Christian kept in touch with Martin, writing the banker so regularly that they became pen pals. Occasionally, Christian would call from a pay phone at the Atlanta airport to say he was in the area, and the two would rendezvous for dinner in the college town of Athens, a 40-mile drive west of Elberton. By this time, Martin no longer questioned Christian's secrecy. The older man had successfully deflected Martin's curiosity when the two first met, by quoting Henry James' observations of Stonehenge: "You may put a hundred questions to these rough-hewn giants as they bend in grim contemplation of their fallen companions, but your curiosity falls dead in the vast sunny stillness that enshrouds them." Christian "never would tell me a thing about this group he belonged to," Martin says. The banker received his last letter from Christian right around the time of the 9/11 terrorist attacks and assumes the man—who would have been in his mid-eighties—has since passed away.


Joe Fendley of Elberton Granite Finishing posing with his masterpiece.
Photo: Courtesy of Fendley Enterprises Inc.
The mysterious story of R. C. Christian and the absence of information about the true meaning of the Guidestones was bound to become an irresistible draw for conspiracy theorists and "investigators" of all kinds. Not surprisingly, three decades later there is no shortage of observers rushing to fill the void with all sorts of explanations.

Among them is an activist named Mark Dice, author of a book called The Resistance Manifesto. In 2005, Dice (who was using a pseudonym of his own—"John Conner"—appropriated from the Terminator franchise's main character) began to demand that the Guidestones be "smashed into a million pieces." He claims that the monument has "a deep Satanic origin," a stance that has earned him plenty of coverage, both in print and on the Web. According to Dice, Christian was a high-ranking member of "a Luciferian secret society" at the forefront of the New World Order. "The elite are planning to develop successful life-extension technology in the next few decades that will nearly stop the aging process," Dice says, "and they fear that with the current population of Earth so high, the masses will be using resources that the elite want for themselves. The Guidestones are the New World Order's Ten Commandments. They're also a way for the elite to get a laugh at the expense of the uninformed masses, as their agenda stands as clear as day and the zombies don't even notice it."

Ironically, Dice's message has mainly produced greater publicity for the Guidestones. This, in turn, has brought fresh visitors to the monument and made Elbert County officials even less inclined to remove the area's only major tourist attraction.

Phyllis Brooks, who runs the Elbert County Chamber of Commerce, pronounced herself aghast last November when the Guidestones were attacked by vandals for the first time ever. While Dice denies any involvement in the assault, he seems to have inspired it: Spray-painted on the stones were messages like "Jesus will beat u satanist" and "No one world government." Other defacements asserted that the Council on Foreign Relations is "ran by the devil," that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job, and that President Obama is a Muslim. The vandals also splashed the Guidestones with polyurethane, which is much more difficult to remove than paint. Despite the graffiti's alignment with his views, Dice says he disapproves of the acts. "A lot of people were glad such a thing happened and saw it as standing up against the New World Order," Dice says, "while others who are unhappy with the stones saw the actions as counterproductive and inappropriate."

Martin winces every time he hears Dice's "Luciferian secret society" take on the Guidestones. But while he disagrees, he also admits that he doesn't know for sure. "All I can tell you is that Mr. Christian always seemed a very decent and sincere fella to me."


A worker uses a special burner to finish a slab of Pyramid Blue granite.
Photo: Courtesy of Fendley Enterprises Inc.
Dice, of course, is far from the only person with a theory about the Guidestones. Jay Weidner, a former Seattle radio commentator turned erudite conspiracy hunter, has heavily invested time and energy into one of the most popular hypotheses. He argues that Christian and his associates were Rosicrucians, followers of the Order of the Rosy Cross, a secret society of mystics that originated in late medieval Germany and claim understanding of esoteric truths about nature, the universe, and the spiritual realm that have been concealed from ordinary people. Weidner considers the name R. C. Christian an homage to the legendary 14th-century founder of the Rosicrucians, a man first identified as Frater C.R.C. and later as Christian Rosenkreuz. Secrecy, Weidner notes, has been a hallmark of the Rosicrucians, a group that announced itself to the world in the early 17th century with a pair of anonymous manifestos that created a huge stir across Europe, despite the fact that no one was ever able to identify a single member. While the guides on the Georgia stones fly in the face of orthodox Christian eschatology, they conform quite well to the tenets of Rosicrucianism, which stress reason and endorse a harmonic relationship with nature.

Weidner also has a theory about the purpose of the Guidestones. An authority on the hermetic and alchemical traditions that spawned the Rosicrucians, he believes that for generations the group has been passing down knowledge of a solar cycle that climaxes every 13,000 years. During this culmination, outsize coronal mass ejections are supposed to devastate Earth. Meanwhile, the shadowy organization behind the Guidestones is now orchestrating a "planetary chaos," Weidner believes, that began with the recent collapse of the US financial system and will result eventually in major disruptions of oil and food supplies, mass riots, and ethnic wars worldwide, all leading up to the Big Event on December 21, 2012. "They want to get the population down," Weidner says, "and this is what they think will do it. The Guidestones are there to instruct the survivors."

On hearing Weidner's ideas, Martin shakes his head and says it's "the sort of thing that makes me want to tell people everything I know." Martin has long since retired from banking and no longer lives in Elberton, yet he's still the Guidestones' official—and only—secret-keeper. "But I can't tell," the old man quickly adds. "I made a promise." Martin also made a promise to destroy all the records of his dealings with Christian, though he hasn't kept that one—at least not yet. In the back of his garage is a large plastic bin (actually, the hard-sided case of an IBM computer he bought back in 1983) stuffed with every document connected to the Guidestones that ever came into his possession, including the letters from Christian.

For years Martin thought he might write a book, but now he knows he probably won't. What he also won't do is allow me to look through the papers. When I ask whether he's prepared to take what he knows to his grave, Martin replies that Christian would want him to do just that: "All along, he said that who he was and where he came from had to be kept a secret. He said mysteries work that way. If you want to keep people interested, you can let them know only so much." The rest is enshrouded in the vast sunny stillness.

Gort said...

Good editorial on the Bilderbergers-_______________________________________________________________________ Editorial: Bilderbergers Are Criminals, Traitors According to U.S. Law
(American Free Press) - ALL AMERICANS WHO PARTICIPATE in secret Bilderberg meetings are criminals and traitors. The Logan Act expressly forbids U.S. citizens to negotiate public policy with representatives of foreign governments. Thus, American officials and private citizens who participate are lawbreaking criminals.

U.S. and foreign government officials who attend are virtually all traitors because they put their world government goal ahead of the interests of their own nations. They scorn “nationalism” and work for “transnationalism.” All Bilderberg “regulars” must support these goals or be ostracized. More than 100 of the 120 or so attendees are “regulars,” invited every year. Typically, five or so participants are first-timers. A potential president is likely to be invited once but tossed aside when his political star dims, as former Vice President Dan Quayle can attest.


But you have to support Bilderberg’s global agenda to survive. Infrequently, one refuses and is drummed out. In 1989, The Spotlight (AFP’s inspiration) reported that British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher attended for the first time, had little to say but objected to demands that she surrender sovereignty to the European Union.

Bilderberg ordered her ouster and Lady Thatcher was replaced as prime minister by a member of her own Conservative Party, a trapeze artist’s son named John Major.

AFP’s Jim Tucker discussed this with Lady Thatcher in June, 1995. “It is an honor to be denounced by Bilderberg,” Lady Thatcher told Tucker. “Anyone who would surrender the sovereignty of their country . . .” her voice trailed off as she shook her head in disgust.

“They are a stuck-up set,” she added. Lady Thatcher expressed optimism that Bilderberg would fail to meet its goal of a world government by 2002, a deadline that had been set back from the original target year of 2000. Although she is now in the dimness of Alzheimer’s disease, Lady Thatcher’s optimism proved justified.

“They said, ‘nationhood should be suppressed,’ but there will never be a new world order,” she added.

There have probably been a few other lesser-known Bilderbergers ousted for nationalism over the years. But all Bilderberg “regulars” are traitors to their own countries. And American participants are criminals, too.

Anonymous said...

Keyes says Obama Administration will stage teror attacks-- It’s obvious that they will stop at nothing,” Keyes told attendees of a reception in Fort Wayne, adding, “We may wake up one day and there’s a series of terrorist attacks, the economy is paralysed….martial law will be declared everywhere in the United States and it won’t end until the crisis ends.”

Keyes said that Americans should be thankful if they even see another election in 2012, stating, “If we don’t wake up and work to see that it happens, we will not see another election.”

“The minute they think they can get away with it, they will end this system of government and that is their intention,” added Keyes, noting that everyone acting as if the time we are in was just “business as usual” reminds him of the attitude of politicians in the Weimar Republic when Hitler was rising to power or eastern Europe when the Communists were taking over after the second world war.
______________________________________________________________________- Note: Too bad he can't see the UN and foreign troops will play a role in all this coming chaos....m

Anonymous said...

Although the talk about the release of documents on torture is a game to Barry,it is sad that anyone would condone such barbaric behavior.Even if one believes in he contrived war on terror,it has never worked in history in the long run.In fact,it is those type of actions along with meddling in the affairs of foreign nations that creates real terrorists.This nation is being judged by God.People no longer know what they are fighting for or who the enemies are.Many defending the beauty queen that lost over the sodomite's attack on her and "no vote",approve of the homosexual lifestyle,but think the queer crossed the line.No,he commited a hate crime inour PC culture,but because he is a protected minority,it is not viewed as such.....m _______________________________________________________________________ "Should any American soldier be so base and infamous as to injure any [prisoner]. . . I do most earnestly enjoin you to bring him to such severe and exemplary punishment as the enormity of the crime may require. Should it extend to death itself, it will not be disproportional to its guilt at such a time and in such a cause... for by such conduct they bring shame, disgrace and ruin to themselves and their country."
- George Washington, in his charge to the Northern Expeditionary Force, (Sept. 14, 1775)

Anonymous said...

The latest hate bill passed the judiciary and is up for debate next week.This has been going on for years.Once passed,it will over for free speech.We've seen it happen in Europe and in Canada.In addtion to the attack on ?Christianity it will also stop any debate on Barry due to his race.We're seeing that anyway,but if the hate crime bill is passed there will be no need for fight against the fairness doctrine,as it will cover that as well...m

Anonymous said...

After 3 years we all have alot more to be angry about.This is an article by Susan Fassanella-------I am a 51-year-old woman. I have been married to the same man since 1976. I am the secretary/office manager for a small legal firm in the D.C. suburbs. My husband manages a wine and spirits store. I have two sons, aged 26 and 22. After realizing it wasn’t possible to support themselves and the government at the same time, both returned to the nuclear nest. Along with most people in my economic situation, I believe I am living what is supposed to be the American dream. I know why I am an angry American. I am frightened because America isn’t the same country it was when I was my children’s age. Allow me to share with you some of the reasons why I am an angry American.

I am angry because my government has been taken over by liars, thieves, thugs, deviants, and micromanagers. The propaganda it produces rivals that of the most fascist dictatorship.

I am angry that my government perceives my intelligence to be that of a jar of pickles incapable of making the smallest decision.

I am angry that my government takes it upon itself to shove its clucking nose into my pantry, medicine chest, bedroom, family room, doctor’s office, workplace, and everywhere else it thinks I need guidance to keep me safe from myself.

I am angry that the will of the American people is ignored on every issue imaginable. If voting really mattered, it would have been outlawed long ago.

I am angry that I am called a conspiracy theorist because I dare to think on my own and question authority and its lies.

I am angry that the more I read about 9-11 the more it looks like an inside job that was allowed to happen, enabling the Patriot Act to be conveniently enacted into law with the ensuing "war on terrah" following closely on its heels.

I am angry that the evil puppets in power think laws are created for the peon masses and it is their right to ignore the ones that get in the way of their agenda.

I am angry that the media has sold its soul to the evil forces running the world.

I am angry that my "leaders" have taken to calling my country the "homeland." It reeks of socialism.

I am angry that my government has invaded yet another sovereign nation and caused untold death and destruction based on a flimsy lie. I am expected to believe that weapons of mass destruction threatened my freedom and then I am told several years and billions of squandered dollars later that a massive intelligence network got the wrong information. A select group of businesses profit enormously from war. When Bush announced his intention to save Iraq from itself and that its oil would pay for the overthrow of Hussein, I laughed so hard I nearly choked. I remember the instability in the Middle East during the 1970s and the gas "shortages" that followed. I knew which direction gas prices would go. How stupid does Mr. Bush and his cronies think I am?

I am angry that the world stands silently by while my government bombs foreign lands with weapons containing depleted uranium and the news magazines wonder on their front covers why lung cancer has increased six-fold in the last year.

I am angry that Americans accept as gospel the propaganda that is routinely cranked out of the Washington lie machine. The lies become more transparent and brazen with each passing year, yet the only thing that seems to matter in living rooms across America is who will be the next American Idol.

I am angry that I am punished with high energy and gas prices and the resulting inflation because tree-hugging terrorists masquerading as environmentalists have handcuffed my country’s ability to produce its own energy. It would be easy to tell the Middle East what to do with their oil if restrictions on exploration and production were lifted in our own backyard.

I am angry that I am constantly admonished by minimalists for being a greedy consumer because I live where I choose, drive the vehicle of my choice, eat meat, and use tin foil to cover my leftovers.

I am angry that my life doesn’t belong to me anymore.

I am angry that I am required to obtain permission, fill out mandated paperwork in quadruplicate, and obtain the correct license or permit for just about everything imaginable. The tentacles of government are strangling my freedom, choice, and privacy at an alarming rate. The wrath of the machine is a constant threat should I dare do anything without leaving a neon paper trail and of course ignorance of the law is never an excuse.

I am angry that property rights are a thing of the past thanks to court-approved eminent domain theft.

I am angry that the Constitution is routinely declared irrelevant making it easier for a fascist police state and new world order to take over.

I am angry that legislation is in the works that will require me to carry "papers" to "prove" who I am. Another coming law I will ignore.

I am angry that my right to own and carry a firearm is drastically regulated and restricted.

I am angry every time I see a young person detained on the side of the road while cops paw through their possessions looking for anything that could enable them to be arrested and dragged through the criminal justice system. This has become so commonplace it is now the accepted norm.

I am angry that roadblocks are set up under the guise of keeping roads free of drunk drivers. What has happened to my right to travel freely? Why am I presumed guilty without probable cause? I am afraid to have a few drinks when I go out to dinner for fear I will be pulled over and end up in court-ordered drug rehabilitation.

I am angry when I read stories of Americans terrorized in airports and treated like common criminals by government minions after they have paid for the right to travel within a private system, yet pilots are blocked from carrying firearms.

I am angry that America has become a nation of busybodies. We are constantly bombarded with messages to be on the lookout for terrorists around every corner, report "suspicious activity," and rat on our neighbor whenever the opportunity presents itself. Is this not how the Nazis gained control of Germany and then most of Europe?

I am angry that the government requires me to sign a form every time I purchase a prescription. Whose business is it that I choose to take a thyroid medication, an antibiotic, a painkiller, an appetite suppressant, or any other substance? Am I dying of cancer? Am I facing debilitating chronic pain? Do I simply want to get HIGH? Heaven forbid someone out there might get their hands on something that might make them FEEL GOOD! No substance should be illegal or unobtainable. If a person wishes to self-medicate, that is their right. The government should not be in the business of criminalizing personal choices of any kind as long as those choices don’t infringe on another’s rights.

I am angry that my government meddles in the lives of people all over the world but looks the other way on the catastrophic issue of what to do about the millions of illegals who have crashed the gates of this nation. My country’s laws are ignored and mocked, yet I am told I must accept with open arms those who are here illegally. My taxes are used to educate their children in their native language. Hospitals are overrun with indigent people seeking medical care. Untaxed dollars earned in the underground economy are sent to the family back home while social services here are stretched to the limit. I read job want ads stating if you aren’t bilingual don’t bother to apply. What would happen to me if I placed an ad that said don’t bother to apply if your English isn’t understandable? Marches are conducted in my cities’ streets waving their countries’ flags as they shamelessly demand their "rights." I am told they deserve the same opportunities that brought my forefathers here. I am scolded that it is un-American to ask why they are not sent home. I am told that the term "illegal alien" offends them and that they prefer to be called "undocumented workers" and that my economy would die without them. I will happily pay more for fruits and vegetables if it means enforcing sensible immigration laws. But immigration isn’t about the cost of lettuce. It is another facet of an agenda that is bent on changing the face of America. When America is no longer a wealthy country of white European descent, it will be a place worse than anything Orwell could have imagined.

I am angry that my country is the only nation on earth who declares that a baby born on its soil is automatically an American citizen.

I am angry that the thugs that run my country don’t have the guts to declare English my nation’s official language.

I am angry that I have to search a package for English and push a button on every telephone system and ATM machine to continue in English.

I am angry that Washington, D.C.’s Metro is now being pressured to replace every station sign with bilingual verbiage to the tune of millions of dollars. Are bilingual road signs going to be the next mandated law of the land? I am currently forced to pay for voting ballots printed in 15 different languages and my tax dollars pay for interpreter services for people who are summoned to court for breaking laws. If English is the international language of the world, why isn’t it good enough to be the official language of the United States?

I am angry when I am told I am a bigot when I thumb my nose at political correctness.

I am angry when I wonder whether an expressed belief or opinion could land me in litigation if someone doesn’t like what I said and wants to silence my voice.

I am angry that diversity and sensitivity training is being forced on people whose only crime is to dare to speak freely.

I am angry that the symbols, customs, and roots of my Judeo-Christian country are being systematically outlawed because my culture offends newcomers. When we freely choose to go somewhere, are we not accepting the customs and cultures of that place? I am weary of being made to feel guilty for being an American.

And finally, I am angry that after working my entire adult life, I don’t see retirement in my life’s picture. My husband and I earn over a hundred thousand dollars a year, but by the time we pay federal taxes, state taxes, social security taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, excise taxes, energy taxes, telecommunication taxes, savings taxes, fees, permits, etc., there isn’t much left. But please don’t think that I mind supporting every deadbeat and down-and-outer with his hand out for a piece of my pie that I worked so hard for. I love supporting the world. After all, it’s the American way, isn’t it?

July 5, 2006

Anonymous said...

May Day approaches.A pandemic is part of the engame.If not now,then somewhere down the road.The government bankruptcy and economic collapse predicted last year is due later this year.Wars and rumors of wars abound.Keep the faith and prepare for hard times....m note- The swine flu and bird flu will lead to apandemic.The article below is not rumormongering.________________________________________________________________________ Somthing Wicked
This Way Comes
Scene I, Act II|
By A. True Ott, PhD, ND
4-24-9

On March 20, 2009, this researcher outlined a peculiar "PANDEMIC VACCINE TRAINING" exercise in Texas scheduled to occur on Saturday, May 2, 2009. See complete article at http://www.rense.com/general85/dsd2.htm

I thought it very strange that a rather obscure Texas county would see fit to conduct such a "training exercise" involving Texas National Guard Troops involving "drive-thru vaccination clinics". I also thought it exceedingly strange that these rather obscure county officials would make the public declarations that emergency "pandemic vaccination programs would mean a line of cars 41 miles long" in Guadalupe County, but that San Antonio's drive-thru vaccine's line would stretch from "San Antonio to Calgary, Alberta Canada" --- strange, because this just happens to be the planned route of the AMERO FREEWAY -- connecting the late-great U.S.A. with Mexico and Canada. Could this, too, be a coded message to insiders?

Just as NORAD was conducting "mock" terrorist drills on the morning of September 11, 2001 - could this May 2 event be TIMED to announce the release of the planned pandemic and the eventual advent of martial law in North America?

Today, Friday, April 24, 2009 - according to USA TODAY, the BBC, and the Associated Press, the World Health Organization (WHO) is "very, very concerned" about a very strange "swine flu" outbreak in Mexico City.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-04-23-swine-flu_N.htm?csp=34 The WHO is so concerned, in fact, that it has ordered all WHO officers to man the "Pandemic Control Room" 24/7 for the 1st time.

ATTENTION AMERICA!!!! This is highly significant. The WHO "Pandemic Control Room" is a creation of the Illuminati elite for the final "end-game" killer virus mapping and tracking, and is thus equipped with super-computers tied to all U.N. member government's security forces. This "control room" is where any declarations of "pandemic" will originate. When such a "declaration" is sent to President Obama, FEMA and the Department of Homeland Security "Pandemic Task Forces" will be deployed. Each State Governor will be notified that the provisions of the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act (MSEHPA) will be implemented.

This means that all Americans must consent to mass vaccinations, or be guilty of a FELONY crime (without a TRIAL, mind you!). And why a FELONY and not a mere 'misdemeanor'? Simple. Police agencies know that the use of "DEADLY FORCE" is only approved for felony suspects when they resist arrest. Refuse the government's untested, untried, highly suspect "MADE IN CHINA" vaccine, and you will instantly be labelled a felonious criminal. So, refuse the forced vaccine, and then resist forced relocation to a prepared "quarantine compound" (i.e. concentration/re-education camp) and you can "legally" be shot and killed. (Justified "deadly force".) See http://www.forhealthfreedom.org/Publications/Informed/RevisedModelState.html

Never forget that in 2005, the Chinese PLA "defense minister" declared in a speech to the Chinese PLA brass that China must
"possess" North America (Mexico, America, and Canada) and that 15-200 million Americans "must die" by means of a "perfected" biological weapon. What could be more "natural" and deflect suspicion more effectively than a weaponized "killer influenza" that is propagandized into an "act of nature"??

Beginning in the spring of 1918, an "unusual flu" began to emerge, that eventually blossomed into the killer flu pandemic killing millions worldwide. Subsequent research has proven that the "unusual flu" was a "recombinant strain" showing swine viruses mixed with bird viruses mutating with human-specific strains of flu virus. THIS IS EXACTLY THE KILLER VIRUS THAT DR. JEFFREY TAUBENBERGER AND HIS TEAM AT FORT DEDRICK RE-CREATED DURING YEARS 1997 - 2003. Is it just a mere coincidence that the same recombinant virus is once again making its appearance known?

According to Henry Kissinger and Zbignew Brezinsky's "NEW WORLD ORDER AGENDA" - the earth must be cleansed of at least 5 billion human beings in order to create their "Utopia". In 1974, this agenda was outlined in a report called NSSM 200 - and the genocide was to begin in specific 3rd world countries. See http://www.mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=90207 However, it is logical that North America (especially Mexico City) would have to be "cleansed" as well. Never forget that both Kissinger and Brezinsky are solid backers of Barack Hussein Obama. Obama makes an official visit to Mexico, and a short week later, Mexico City schools, Universities, and all PUBLIC BUILDINGS are shut down in pandemic fear -- (for the first time since the devastating 1985 earthquake!) Again, is this just a bizarre co-incidence??

SOMETHING WICKED IS NOT COMING, IT IS ALREADY HERE.

"If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as KILLER VIRUS to lower human population levels."
------ Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, head of the World Wildlife Fund and World FREEMASONRY --- December 1995

"A 'killer virus' is indeed an evolutionary step-up for some of this planet's so-called "elites" ---- hopefully Prince Phillip, Henry Kissinger, Zbignew Brezinsky, et. al. can each achieve this milestone and not return once again as the mutiganeous-primal-pond-scum life-form they currently occupy today."
------ Dr. A. True Ott, Concerned American PATRIOT, April, 2009.

Anonymous said...

WHO raised the threat level to 5 today.Yet,the US and Barry tells us not to worry.But they don't close the Borders or shut down Airlines.They'd rather wait until this becomes a global pandemic and then declare Martial Law as they have planned,whether over this or a finacial collapse or war or terrorism.....m

Anonymous said...

The House passed the Hate Crimes Bill today.The USA has now officially entered the Orwellian world of thought crime laws.This has nothing to do with hate crimes as most crimes involve hatred as a motivating factor.We know from the history of existing hate crime legislation that it is rarely applied when the crime is committed against Christians,heterosexuals and whites.There is a provision in there for pedophiles.This nation is gone!As the fear is instilled in the masses over pandemics and financial meltdown,there is a contrary message coming from the governments of the world.That everything is under control,and even the audacity of saying the Depression we entered this year is still a recession and recovery is right around the corner.Today,the CFR-controlled MSM rerted that Barry had a "channeling" of FDR moment today.The adoration and worship of this horrid man continues.The world is deleuded onto believing this inexperienced man has all the answers to the world's problems....m http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE53S8IM20090429

Anonymous said...

The flyby plane scare last week is another bizzare event.The strange things taking place are increasing on a daily basis.

Anonymous said...

The vaccines will cause more deaths than the virus itself.It is part of the culling of the herd.With all the mutations there is now way the government could have a cure for it.In fact,the killing of top microbiologists has been taking place for years.

Anonymous said...

Interseting article by Larry Sinclair--------- NOTICE OF REMOVAL OF TAITZ SITES FROM BLOGROLL
NOTE: Before the attacks begin, let me say I wish Taitz success as long as her efforts are being made in an honest manner. The truth is what we have. If we resort to dishonesty then we are no better than the fraud Obama and his thugs.

First let me say that I have never, nor will I now tell anyone who they should support. However, I am removing all links to Orly Taitz sites from my blog-roll.

This action is based on confirmed verification that Orly Taitz web sites when visited attempt to install remote servers onto the visitors computer. In addition, it has been verified by independent investigators that Taitz web sites use a software designed by her husband that attempts to obtain personal information from visitors computers.

I have always made it clear that I am not associated with Orly Taitz in any way. Until now I have kept my mouth shut. However, I had to email Orly Taitz just this past week and demand that she cease using my name and email address in her bulk emailing because I have been inundated with emails from people asking me to stop sending them emails and to remove them from my mailing lists. Only problem is, they were receiving the emails from Taitz, not me as I do not email multiple people. Furthermore Orly Taitz does not have the right to be sending out mass mailings displaying other peoples email addresses.

Anyone following and supporting Orly Taitz does so because you believe in what she is doing. Do not however use me or my name in the Orly Taitz actions. I have asked Ms. Taitz to stop referring to me in her continued knowingly making of false statements.

I will also make it clear here and now that Orly Taitz web sites have not been hacked or attacked by the "Obama thugs" but in reality were sabotaged by Orly Taitz and her husband intentionally to gain sympathy and support. That is just wrong to do when so many people support you.

This is not personal, it is simply stating fact and explaining why I have removed all links to Taitz from this blog.

Anonymous said...

To keep updated on bloggers and radio show talk show hosts,I'll vistit sites and listen to shows that I know are bad news.Old Bigfoot today- on Ken Dunbar's show- says peewee blogtalk shows are damaging,and that the Pravda writer[Mark McGrew] needs to be removed.This was after he woke up with a revelation on Grand Juries.Of course,none of his followers will call him an obot.Here's his post--- Ed Hale



Apr 30, 2009 - 11:10AM QuoteReply Grand Juries are a waste of time !!!!!!

Hi Folks: I hate to bust all of your bubble that believe that the Grand Jury is going to get Obama out of the White House, but the truth is, it will not work for 2 reason. I know that these peewee blog talk radio station have been running wild with it, that is because they have nothing else to talk about. REASON #1. The Grand juries are toothless. They have no power to do anything other than make a presentment to a US Attorney or a DA. No DA or US Attorney is going to take these "presentment". No Judge will allow this to come up in thier courtroom. So without the above, what good is a Grand Jury, NONE. All you can do is sit around and talk about Obama and nothing more. The only way to get rid of Obama is the way Plains Radio is going with the states. NO COURT IN THIS LAND WILL REMOVE OBAMA FROM OFFICE. Give it up folks. Stop living on false hope. Yes that is right, you got nothing but false hope with these grand juries. Yes the stupid peeweee blog talk radio people are saying that the grand jury is gonna remove Obama from office. Folks it is a lie and all they are doing is feeding you with flase hope and here is why. All of you beleive in the consitution right? So if you believe in that, then you know that the grandjury is a waste of time, effort and gives false hope. Here is why: A SITTING PRESIDENT CANNOT BE ARRESTED AND BE BROUGHT TO ANY COURT IN THIS LAND. That folks is in the consitution. Read it. THE ONLY WAY A PRESIDENT CAN BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE IS FOR CONGRESS TO IMPEACH HIM. This is why SCOTUS cannot remove him or any of these lawsuits will remove him. It an't happening folks. Now go and read it. Get your heads out of the sand. We have to work with the STATES and change the laws there. That is our only chance - The Grand Juries don't have a snowball in hale chance of working.
State: Texas
Joe Cocker



Apr 30, 2009 - 11:30AM QuoteReply Re: Grand Juries are a waste of time !!!!!!

Thank you Ed. The truth is out now. I was labeled an Obot. We both can be one now!

I posted this back in January.

Replace the person who should have, could have checked into this matter in the first place. That's what they are paid to do, run the elections and ask questions. FIRE, HIM OR HER! Wasted State tax money on their pay check!
State: California!

Ed Hale



Apr 30, 2009 - 11:35AM QuoteReply Ken Dunbar will present the facts tonight

I have talked to Ken and he will present the facts of this tonight on his show at 6pm central. Ken will give you the facts and where the laws are located at that time. Our job here at Plains Radio is to tell you the whole truth regardless how much it hurts. Unlike the peeweee blogtalker radio, Plains will continue to give you only the facts so that you can make your own mind up.
State: Texas

ChaChaCharlie



Apr 30, 2009 - 11:49AM QuoteReply Re: Grand Juries are a waste of time !!!!!!

Ed, your post is excellent and exactly right. Prepare to face the flak from the grand jury promoters( like that bothers you in the least!) But rather than laws in the individual states, I think the answer is to pass a federal law that specifically defines/ clarifies "natural born citizen' and outlines the way that candidates must show their eligibility.
State: Ohio

Anonymous said...

Larry said-- I will also make it clear here and now that Orly Taitz web sites have not been hacked or attacked by the "Obama thugs" but in reality were sabotaged by Orly Taitz and her husband intentionally to gain sympathy and support. That is just wrong to do when so many people support you. ____________________________________ Reply-- Yes,I agree.Her original blog is still intact but comments are closed.I never believed it was hacked.She never attempted to "fix" it.She just went for the sympathy and donations and moved on.Also,as mentioned in the Sinclair post was the multiple emailings.She also publishes IP addresses and emails from readers without their permission.This haapened a few days ago with a couple of my posts,as I had wanted to share informationp[under hearingthefuneraldirge].I private messaged and she did remove it.But I'm not going back there.I've had problems with her legal approaches for months,but still wanted to share information.No more.And some of her readers will repost others comments[one of mine under messenger] on the republix site she used before getting her new website without a little blurb that someone else wrote it.Not that I care for the credit,but I just have seen too many strange things surrounding Orly....m

Anonymous said...

The MSM is acclimating people to the possibiity of martial law.We've already had since last October the talk and then action of our military on US streets in several instances.No outrage,except in the alternative media,so the sheeple are learning to love Big Brother when the time comes for the crackdown.FOX did a soft sell with a spin on martial law.Sickening.Just watching or listening to the MSM for research turns my stomach.They are all traitors.The hybrid flu is being used for a future takeover of the USA.It's being hyped far beyond the death toll thus far.Talking about martial law already is surely a conditioning angle of the elites.

Anonymous said...

Here's a website for state pandemic plans...messenger http://www.pandemicflu.gov/plan/states/stateplans.html

Anonymous said...

The racism against whites is growing.The Black Idaho Constitution Party Chairman, Paul Venable, has just rejected Edgar Steele's application for rank-and-file membership in the Idaho State chapter of the Constitution Party.Steele is a white man that has been vocal against the double standards of affirmative action for years.The MSM will ignore this as usual,while giving racists like Sharpton and Jackson airtime to spew racist rhetoric.

Anonymous said...

Below is a good article by a talk show host on Alex Jone's fearmongering.He also covered this in a few broadcasts last week.________________________________________ Swine Flu Fear Mongering From The Corporate And Alternative Media Has Been Insane
Published on 05-04-2009
Source: www.roguegovernment.com
By - Lee Rogers

The amount of fear mongering coming from the government, the mainstream corporate controlled media and the so called alternative media surrounding the swine flu outbreak has been completely insane. Cable news outlets have shown pictures and video of people wearing surgical masks and providing around the clock news reports on the swine flu to fuel fear in the minds of people around the world. Despite the fact that there are estimates of 36,000 people dying from the regular flu virus on a year to year basis in the United States and as of this report only around 19 deaths associated with the swine flu in Mexico, common sense has not prevailed and the promotion of swine flu fear continues. Thus far there are only 286 confirmed cases of the swine flu and one confirmed death associated with the swine flu in the United States. That death is associated with a toddler that came here from Mexico. Although it is of definite concern that the swine flu appears to be an engineered viral outbreak considering that it is a strange cocktail mix of strains taken from human flu, the bird flu and swine flu, there have been and continue to be wild claims within the alternative research community that this will result in total martial law and that the virus is actually far worse than it is with no real proof or evidence to back it up.

Whenever the government and mainstream corporate controlled media promote fear, it is usually a hoax. The war on terror is a perfect example considering that the official stories of all major terrorist attacks in the past decade including the 9/11 attacks and the 7/7 London bombings are extremely questionable. So when the media keeps showing pictures and videos of people running around wearing surgical masks with barely any confirmed cases of the swine flu in the United States, one can easily draw the conclusion that the establishment is trying to promote fear to further a particular agenda.

Even Vice President Joe Biden was sent out on NBC’s Today Show to hype the fear in what appears to have been a staged media appearance by stating that he wouldn’t let his family members travel via public transportation due to the swine flu. This appears to have been an obvious attempt to scare people and give credibility to the threat of swine flu which up until now has been minimal.

Although the fear mongering from the government and mainstream corporate controlled media has been off the charts, some of the most insanely rabid scare tactics has come from radio host and film maker Alex Jones.

Jones has a track record of spreading fear over the airwaves dating back to his infamous December 31st 1999 Y2K radio transmissions when he promoted the idea that the Russians were invading the United States. The Russians never invaded and it was all made up. It is true that much of the information Jones talks about on his show is verifiable, but the irrational and out of control fear mongering he promotes is the equivalent of placing a piece of animal crap in a party’s punch bowl.




Last week, Jones hi-jacked the April 29th 2009 InfoWarrior radio program (Hour 1, Hour 2, Hour 3) hosted by film producer Jason Bermas claiming that the government was threatening and attacking his web sites due to swine flu information that they posted. Specifically he went on to talk about a memo provided to him by an Administrator from the Austin Independent School District stating that the swine flu was far worse than anything the media or the government was saying. Jones specifically believed that the reason why his site was attacked was because of that memo. He went on to claim that this document which as far as we can tell has yet to be re-posted on his web site stated that we were actually at a level 6 virus pandemic and that the swine flu was far worse than what was being claimed through official channels. He would also go on to say that the level 6 classification meant that we’d have a scenario like the movies 28 Days Later or I Am Legend which both depict a massive virus outbreak that kill/infect large quantities of people. Throughout the show Jones and some of his guests would continue to hype this information claiming that it would result in martial law. Even when the idea of it being a hoax was brought up by Steve Quayle who was a guest on the show, Jones acknowledged that it was a possibility but quickly dismissed it and went on to read the memo which claimed that the virus was made to spread quickly, that hospitals across the country would be overwhelmed and that there were 10 to 25 times more cases than what was being reported in the corporate media. He even went on to say that Mexico City was under total martial law without any real proof or sources to back it up.


The vast majority of the show was dedicated to Jones hyping how the swine flu virus was much worse than the government or the mainstream corporate media was saying. Even when Quayle moved the discussion to focus on how it might be a hoax, it was used to promote and completely over hype the fear of imminent martial law, forced vaccinations and how the government is going to kill us.

None of this has happened yet and now Jones is claiming that he was saying that the swine flu scare was a hoax all along when that is simply not true. Jones had even stated on one of his previous radio programs that billions of people were going to die as a result of a wide scale bio-weapon attack not as speculation but as a fact.

Jones also had Dr. Len Horowitz on as a guest a couple of times on his show last week for so-called expert commentary on the swine flu. Horowitz is a man who has been criticized by many as actually being a member of the Knights of Malta otherwise known as the Knights Hospitaller. In fact, a news release on his web site proudly states that he was given the title "Knight of Merit" from members associated with this order. There are even pictures on Horowitz’s web site showing him posing with individuals wearing pieces of clothing with a giant Maltese Cross on them. The Maltese Cross is a symbol of the Knights of Malta which to this day is an organization considered to be a sovereign military force for the Vatican. The Vatican is essentially a cult hiding behind the Christian religion while many members have been caught engaging in pedophilia, homosexuality and other bizarre forms of sexual behavior. There is also another strangely placed picture of Horowitz posing with an owl on his web site. The owl is a symbol associated with the ancient Roman goddess of Minerva. It is quite possible that these pictures are some sort of inside joke between Horowitz and his insider buddies. It is funny that Jones would give a man like this any credibility what so ever, but he was sold to the listening audience as a credible expert.

With an increasing number of reports stating that the swine flu scare was vastly over-blown, it is obvious that all of this fear mongering was entirely unwarranted and designed to make the alternative research community look ridiculous. This is not to say that we shouldn’t be concerned about this, as it is possible that they could use the swine flu scare to socially engineer the public for any number of dark scenarios. However, over hyping the threat and scaring people about martial law and other outcomes just makes us all look like a bunch of lunatics which appears to be the point behind this type of reporting. The bottom line is that there is something terribly wrong when people in the alternative research community particularly those with a track record of this type of scare mongering are spreading more fear than the government and the media. It is obvious that the swine flu scare has been vastly over blown on all levels

Anonymous said...

With regards to the open letter that Walter Fitzpatrick wrote a couple weeks ago,I heard he was visited by the secret service and questioned,and let go.If arrested,the information would have to come out in court.Very interesting.....m _____________________________________ To Mr. Barack Obama

Via: U.S Attorney Russell Dedrick, and Assistant U.S. Attorney Edward Schmutzer, Eastern
District, Tennessee

From: Walter Francis Fitzpatrick, III, United States Navy Retired

Distribution: Wide

SUBJECT: CRIMINAL ALLEGATIONS REGARDING THE COMMISSION OF TREASON

I have observed and extensively recorded invidious attacks by military-political aristocrats against the Constitution for twenty years.

Now you have broken in and entered the White House by force of contrivance, concealment, conceit, dissembling, and deceit. Posing as an impostor president and commander in chief you have stripped civilian command and control over the military establishment. Known military criminal actors—command racketeers—are now free in the exercise of military government intent upon destruction of America’s constitutional government.

Free from constitutional restraint, and following your criminal example, military commanders deployed U.S. Army active duty combat troops into the small civilian community of Samson, Alabama last recent weeks and to the Boston Marathon, a demonstration of their newly received despotic, domestic police power.

We come now to this reckoning. I accuse you and your military-political criminal assistants of TREASON. I name you and your military criminal associates as traitors. Your criminal ascension manifests a clear and present danger. You fundamentally changed our form of government. The Constitution no longer works.

Confident holding your silent agreement and admission, I identify you as a foreign born domestic enemy.

My sworn duty Mr. Obama is to stand against what you stand for. You are not my president. You are not my commander in chief.

Obedient to the Constitution in submission of this criminal accusation I remain steadfast, and


Born fighting,
/s/ (notarized)
Walter Francis Fitzpatrick, III
United States Naval Academy, Class of 1975

Anonymous said...

United States District Court
Eastern District of Pennsylvania (Philadelphia)
CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 2:09−cv−01898−ER
LIBERI et al v. TAITZ et al
Assigned to: HONORABLE EDUARDO C. ROBRENO
Cause: 28:1332 Diversity−Libel,Assault,Slander
Date Filed: 05/04/2009
Jury Demand: Plaintiff
Nature of Suit: 320 Assault Libel
&Slander
Jurisdiction: Diversity
Plaintiff
LISA LIBERI represented by PHILIP J. BERG
LAW OFFICES OF PHILIP J. BERG
555 ANDORRA GLEN COURT
SUITE 12
LAFAYETTE HILL , PA 19444
610−825−3134
Fax: 610−834−7659
Email: philjberg@gmail.com
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
Plaintiff
ESQ. PHILIP J. BERG represented by PHILIP J. BERG
(See above for address)
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
Plaintiff
THE LAW OFFICES OF PHILIP J.
BERG
represented by PHILIP J. BERG
(See above for address)
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
Plaintiff
EVELYN ADAMS
a/k/a MOMMA E
represented by PHILIP J. BERG
(See above for address)
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
Plaintiff
LISA M. OSTELLA represented by PHILIP J. BERG
(See above for address)
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
Plaintiff
GO EXCEL GLOBAL represented by PHILIP J. BERG
(See above for address)
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
V.
Defendant
ORLY TAITZ
a/k/a DR. ORLY TAITZ, a/k/a LAW
OFFICES OF ORLY TAITZ;
a/k/aWWW.ORLYTAITZESQ.COM, a/k/a
WWW.REPUBX.COM, a/k/a ORLY TAITZ,
INC.
Defendant
DEFEND OUR FREEDOMS
FOUNDATIONS, INC.
Defendant
YOSEF TAITZ
Defendant
THE SANKEY FIRM
Defendant
SANKEY INVESTIGATIONS, INC.
Defendant
NEIL SANKEY
Defendant
JAMES SUNDQUIST
Defendant
ROCK SALT PUBLISHING
Defendant
LINDA SUE BELCHER
a/k/a LINDA S. BELCHER a/k/a LINDA
STARR; a/k/a NEWWOMENSPARTY a/k/a
STITCHENWITCH a/k/a EVA BRAUN a/k/a
WEB SERGEANT a/k/a KATY a/k/a
WWW.OBAMACITIZENSHIPDEBATE.ORG
Defendant
EDGAR HALE
a/k/a JD SMITH
Defendant
CAREN HALE
Defendant
PLAINS RADIO NETWORK
a/k/a PLAINS RADIO NETWORK, INC. a/k/a
PLAINS RADIO
Defendant
BAR H FARMS
Defendant
KPRN AM 1610
Defendant
DOES 1 THROUGH 200 INCLUSIVE
Date Filed # Docket Text
05/04/2009 1 COMPLAINT against defts' ORLY TAITZ, DEFEND OUR FREEDOMS
FOUNDATIONS, INC., YOSEF TAITZ, THE SANKEY FIRM, SANKEY
INVESTIGATIONS, INC., NEIL SANKEY, JAMES SUNDQUIST, ROCK SALT
PUBLISHING, LINDA SUE BELCHER, EDGAR HALE, CAREN HALE, PLAINS
RADIO NETWORK, BAR H FARMS, KPRN AM 1610 ( Filing fee $ 350 receipt
number PPE000127.), filed by plffs' GO EXCEL GLOBAL, LISA LIBERI, PHILIP J.
BERG, THE LAW OFFICES OF PHILIP J. BERG, EVELYN ADAMS, LISA M.
OSTELLA.(gn, ) (Entered: 05/04/2009)
05/04/2009 Summons Issued as to ORLY TAITZ, DEFEND OUR FREEDOMS FOUNDATIONS,
INC., YOSEF TAITZ, THE SANKEY FIRM, SANKEY INVESTIGATIONS, INC.,
NEIL SANKEY, JAMES SUNDQUIST, ROCK SALT PUBLISHING, LINDA SUE
BELCHER, EDGAR HALE, CAREN HALE, PLAINS RADIO NETWORK, BAR H
FARMS, KPRN AM 1610. Given To: counsel on 5/4/09 (gn, ) Modified on 5/4/2009
(gn, ). (Entered: 05/04/2009)
05/04/2009 2 Disclosure Statement Form pursuant to FRCP 7.1 by GO EXCEL GLOBAL, LISA
LIBERI, PHILIP J. BERG, THE LAW OFFICES OF PHILIP J. BERG, EVELYN
ADAMS, LISA M. OSTELLA.(gn, ) (Entered: 05/04/2009)
05/04/2009 3 EMERGENCY MOTION FOR AN INJUNCTION AND/OR TEMPORARY
RESTRAINING ORDER, FILED BY PLFFS' GO EXCEL GLOBAL, LISA LIBERI,
PHILIP J. BERG, THE LAW OFFICES OF PHILIP J. BERG, EVELYN ADAMS,
LISA M. OSTELLA..(gn, ) (Entered: 05/04/2009)
05/04/2009 4 Memorandum in support of plff's motion for Emergency Injunction and/or Temporary
Restraining Order, filed by plffs' GO EXCEL GLOBAL, LISA LIBERI, PHILIP J.
BERG, THE LAW OFFICES OF PHILIP J. BERG, EVELYN ADAMS, LISA M.
OSTELLA, Proof of Service. (gn, ) (Entered: 05/04/2009)
State: ca.
Below is a post that was in defense of Phil Berg’s Assistant Lisa Liberi! THANK GOD some one had the foresight to go and research and post it. Please feel free to post this on any and all Blogs or Web Sites you have or connected to. Maybe this will stop some of the craziness that Phil and Lisa are going through since Orly’s attack.

MommaE”

“Comment: It never fails to amaze me how people will run with the slightest bit of uncorroborated information as if it were the God’s honest truth. Take for example the Lisa Liberi/Ostella issue. I looked Ms. Liberi up in the San Bernardino Court records. Unless this woman is a shape shifter, there is no way the California Liberi and the Pennsylvania Liberi are the same woman.

Yes, there is a Lisa Liberi in California who is originally from New Mexico and has a history of felony fraud. However, she resides in California, has been here for over a decade, and the only reason she shows up as a resident of New Mexico is because she is still on probation in that state. This is a matter of public record and is available (free) online. She was in custody in the State of California at the same time that the Pennsylvania Liberi was working as Berg’s assistant.

Now, I’ve heard of liberal “work release” programs, but the State of California did not allow an incarcerated felon to skip off to go work for Phil Berg.

The fact that two people have the same name does not offer any proof that they are the same person. It’s a huge jump in logic, with no verifiable documentation, that is being stated by some as FACT.

How these very same people have managed to fabricate a connection between Lisa Liberi and Lisa Ostella is even more mind boggling. The only substantiated connection is that these two women share the same first name.”
4, 2009 at 2:24 pm

Crystal,

We have the right to call a Grand Jury for anything we feel is illegal. That is our right and our duty under the U.S. Constitution.

Does this mean we can lynch people? Absolutely not! But we can not and should not rely on the department of justice to do all of our legal work for us. As you can clearly see, it is broken. We are not seeing an indictment against Soetoro, not even an investigation into his clear web of thuggery and crime. Hundreds of addresses, multiple SSN’s, ties to Chicago graft, election fraud, tax evasion, the works. It’s like we’re watching a re-run of the days of William Marcy Tweed.

But back to the question. In order to ensure a GJ is legal, for example, it must follow the Constitution. The department of justice must also follow the Constitution. The U.S. Military must follow the Constitution. Orly must follow the Constitution. Everyone in the United States must follow the Constitution.

What Orly is doing is not Unconstitutional … yet. She can call for anything she wants. She doesn’t have to listen to council when what they say or do is Unconstitutional. Calling for a tribunal in the Military is warranted because so many officers and enlisted personnell are questioning the authority of the “Commander in Chief”. An answer must be granted to them because they are entitled to it under Military Code and the Constitution. The very fact “natural born” was put into the Constitution was for the U.S. Military 110%.

When Orly decides not to follow Constitutional law, then its our duty as a nation to make sure she is held accountable if and when she does it.
RICHARD // May 4, 2009 at 2:37 pm

Jacqlyn, That’s why i said her intent was good.
____________

Whether you like her methods…she is still very courageous and a true “Patriot” for going out on a limb to get her country back!! She certainly has not deserved the BS from the Obama supporters that she has experienced
_____________

Patriotic yes, but even the California Bar Ethic’s, say’s clearly that you cannot use inflammatory language towards Judges, etc.

Yet she bashes the hell out them.

It’s a clear violation of ethic’s.

Her intent is wonderful, her presentation and procedure is horrible.

She flopped big time on the Qou Warranto’s.

She did correct herself to a degree, but i have yet to see the James v. Obama filing.

She’s only been in practice a very short time.

She need’s one foot on the brake pedal, and one foot on the gas pedal.

Wisdom is better than strength, but what good is extreme patriotic strength, outside of the Constitution, or the D.C. Code, or California Bar Ethic’s ?
RICHARD // May 4, 2009 at 2:57 pm

Libby Jones,

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I post my concerns here because she never lets any contrary view to be posted on her site. This is one example of what she defines as “patriotic
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Your post was beautiful, i agree in that she will not allow any objective opinion, very little if any. Strange.

You took the words from my mouth, when you said that it’s as though her mindset is still in the former Soviet Union.

I thought she was dissing me only.

Richard
amy // May 4, 2009 at 4:46 pm

Hi Mary
Jacqlyn Smith // May 4, 2009 at 6:34 pm

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Crystal // May 4, 2009 at 1:58 pm

Jacqlyn Smith, the old saying that “the road to hell is paved with good intentions” applies here.
It no longer matters what her intentions are if it destroys everything. In her past activism activities she has shown abandon of Constitutional concerns (ei her rally in support of Israel’s bombing of Lebanon, and her AIPAC lobbying activities) You can’t cherry pick the Constitution.
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That is your opinion….I beg to differ….we have freedom of speech and she is allowed to use it to the best of her ability whether you agree with her or not!!! I appreciate her Patriotism…..evidently you and others don’t but that is your choice…..there are many others who believe she is doing what is right!!
citizenwells // May 4, 2009 at 6:41 pm

jej.
I went to GoogleEarth and one of the more interesting features I observed
was an underground (covered with grass and a road) section of the railroad
that I estimate to be 60-80 yards long. This is adjacent to 150 Broadway.
Jacqlyn Smith // May 4, 2009 at 6:42 pm

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RICHARD // May 4, 2009 at 2:37 pm

Jacqlyn, That’s why i said her intent was good.
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Whether you like her methods…she is still very courageous and a true “Patriot” for going out on a limb to get her country back!! She certainly has not deserved the BS from the Obama supporters that she has experienced
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Patriotic yes, but even the California Bar Ethic’s, say’s clearly that you cannot use inflammatory language towards Judges, etc.

Yet she bashes the hell out them.

It’s a clear violation of ethic’s.

Her intent is wonderful, her presentation and procedure is horrible.

She flopped big time on the Qou Warranto’s.

She did correct herself to a degree, but i have yet to see the James v. Obama filing.

She’s only been in practice a very short time.

She need’s one foot on the brake pedal, and one foot on the gas pedal.

Wisdom is better than strength, but what good is extreme patriotic strength, outside of the Constitution, or the D.C. Code, or California Bar Ethic’s ?
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Richard—-For some reason your rant on Orly seems more like an OBOT wanting her to fail…..what have you done so far to help us bring attention to the IMPOSTER in the White House…..seems you are very critical of a Patriot who is using her talents to the best of her ability….and as JeffM says…..she has done nothing UNCONSTITUTIONAL….she has a right to freedom speech and I believe like thousands of others that she is doing a DARN good job of it!!!!!
RICHARD // May 4, 2009 at 8:31 pm

Jacqlyn,

she has done nothing UNCONSTITUTIONAL
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If you understood the Federal Qou Warranto statutes, you would see that i did bring to attention the fact that Orly has failed to plead correctly.

She was asking Attorney General Holder to recuse himself, get a special prosecutor, and take it directly to the Supreme Court, all in the name of Qou Warranto.

UNCONSTITUTIONAL !

Congress gave the District of Columbia, in the D.C. CODE, power to go after an usurper in the District.

Specifically, given to the U.S. District Court/Attorney, Jeffrey Taylor.

SCOTUS had original jurisdiction before the casting of the electoral votes, before the Oath was taken, but NOW they DO NOT. Therefore, the only remedy to challenge an usurper in the District of Columbia, is through the U.S. District Court exclusively.

Read the Code.

The U.S. Attorney files it himself, or an INTERESTED PERSON, or THIRD PARTY can ask for permission to file ONLY in the name of the United States, if the Court allows it.

This is the ONLY remedy available in the U.S. Constitution, other than impeachment, or Mr. Holder initiating a Qou Warranto, which would probably be a conflict of interest, to challenge B.O.

SCOTUS would then only hear it on appeal from Obama.

Again, read the code, and again i say that ORLY’S pleading was UNCONSTITUTIONAL which is why SCOTUS will not hear it.

I wish Orly success, but only when she get’s it right, and interprets the D.C. Code correctly.
Maddie // May 4, 2009 at 10:20 pm

To any Obama supporters who “may” be here:

Show Americans your REAL birth certificate,
Mr. Obama, and these issues will be resolved
one way or the other. It’s a $15 issue , why
have you spent over $1,000,000 fighting
against it? What are you hiding and WHY?
Everyone wants to know now, whether you
are for or against the POTUS–showing your
eligibility for the “top job” is “elementary”
Barack and should NOT be above your
“pay grade” —-or is it??
Jacqlyn Smith // May 4, 2009 at 10:24 pm

Richard——Why don’t you file the Quo Warranto yourself instead of trying to direct traffic??? It sounds like you believe you are all knowing and that Dr. Taitz has it all wrong!!! What have you done to help the cause on your own??? I’m still waiting for that answer…..we know what you think about Dr. Taitz…..now show us what you have done!!!
RICHARD // May 4, 2009 at 10:52 pm

Jacqlyn, you apparently have your knickers in a twist, for whatever reason i do not comprehend.

Did you read the District Code ?

NO ! Because if you did you would realize that im not directing traffic, or am all knowing, or think Orly is always wrong.

If you actually did read it, instead of casting aspersions, you would hear the same language that Leo C. Donofrio speaks, the language of the actual code, but don’t accept reproof, just keep being yourself.
Joy // May 4, 2009 at 11:03 pm

Richard, you need to join hands with jbjd and file your own lawsuits rather than set on the sidelines and put Orly down. She and her family has already faced in Russia what it seems we might be facing here, if Obama has his way. If you are more interested in putting people down just to interfere with their progress, you are preaching to the wrong group. If you can do what Orly is trying to do, better, then by all means jump in and do it. Otherwise, don’t put her down, just to distract people from hearing about the usurper getting in the White House, illegally. Obots have been trying to shut Orly up from the get-go and you sound just like one of them. You should be praising Orly, Citizen Wells, Larry Sinclair, Leo and all the others who have put their life on hold, while trying to save our Constitution and freedom. So Richard,Crystal, Libby, you have a right to your own beliefs but that dosen’t include trying to destroy another person who is working for all of us!!!!
RICHARD // May 4, 2009 at 11:19 pm

Joy,

Who’s putting people down, i made an opinion based on the KNOWN legal fact, that has been posted by other attorney’s on several other blogs, that Orly has unfortunately mis filed several suits, as though she never even read the law, or specific code.

This is well known.

To say that im putting her down for fun, is not correct at all, if that’s what your suggesting.
RICHARD // May 4, 2009 at 11:31 pm

Joy,

. Otherwise, don’t put her down, just to distract people from hearing about the usurper getting in the White House, illegally.
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Ms. Joy,

You use the word USURPER, but you do not even realize that the Quo Warranto statute, is the only place in the Constitution/ D.C. code, where the word USURPER is used.

I’ll bet you did not know that, did you ?
messenger // May 5, 2009 at 12:21 am

Richard,I’ve had the same experiences with Orly as you and Leo as well.She doesn’t want real help.And now it appears she and Bigfoot Ed Hale have been sued by Berg,Ostella,Liberi,and Momma E,represented by Berg as reported today on Sentinel Radio Blog.These celeb lawyers with their paypal buttons are not what their idolatrous fans believe them to be.And criticizing them doe not make one an “obot”.We merely want this settled once and for all.These goofy ploys have distracted from the nbc issue and getting QW in DC instigated,where it must be.Not all over the nation with all these side issues.

Anonymous said...

Bigfoot has taken the week off.His sheeple do not know of the new lawsuit or they'd know why he is taking off and cutting program hours once again...m ____________________________________ Ed Hale



May 4, 2009 - 3:21AM QuoteReply Plains is off the air till Monday 5-11-09

Folks: I have decided to take a weeks vacation, so we will be off the air until May 11, 2009. I will reset the shows as we will go to 5 hours a day instead of the 7 hours a day. Have a great week.
State: Texas

Coastal



May 4, 2009 - 5:10AM QuoteReply Re: Plains is off the air till Monday 5-11-09

Ed,

Awesome! Glad to hear your taking a break! Thanks for all you do and have done for your readers and guests!

Have fun, get some downtime. We will be right here when you get back.
State: GA

stumo



May 4, 2009 - 8:08AM QuoteReply Re: Plains is off the air till Monday 5-11-09

Good for you Ed! Nobody deserves a week off more than you. Hope Caren can get some time off too. Thanks for all you do and enjoy your week!

stumo
State: MO

KatieIN



May 4, 2009 - 10:31AM QuoteReply Re: Plains is off the air till Monday 5-11-09

Have a great week off Ed.
I hope that means Caren gets a bit of a break also.

Perhaps you should put a sticky on this message so no one will miss it.
State: Indiana

___________________________________________ Someone posted the lawsuit on the Bigfoot forum but it will be deleted soon.

Anonymous said...

On a radio show yesterday,Walter Fitzpatrick stated that the secret service guys were noce and told him they didn't have jurisdiction to arrest Barry.

Anonymous said...

Canada Free Press article ---- The President Who Hates His Country

Joan Swirsky Bio
Email Article




By Joan Swirsky Sunday, May 3, 2009
In the last century, the impassioned words and actions of patriots like Winston Churchill – along with America’s heroic help and sacrifice – saved Europe. The eloquence and actions of “I’ve been to the mountaintop” Martin Luther King Jr. brought America to an unprecedented level of social justice.

The peerless oratory and tireless diplomacy of the man who would become Israel’s Foreign Minister, Abba Eban convinced the entire world that after the wanton murder of six-million Jews in the Holocaust its straggling survivors deserved their own state of Israel. The inspiring words and decisive actions of President Ronald Reagan ended the Cold War, tore down the Berlin Wall, and restored economic prosperity to America. The efforts of these towering figures resulted in a more highly-evolved world.

We have also seen the opposite in totalitarian leaders like Hitler, Mussolini, Fidel Castro, Pol Pot, Mao, and Saddam Hussein, among others, who exploited their masses, destroyed their economies, brought havoc, turbulence, grief and massive death within and outside of their countries, and made the world a more dangerous and threatening place.

The one thing all of these virtuous and evil men had in common was love for their respective countries, in fact a burning passion that superseded all else. The virtuous believed in freedom and democracy. The evil believed in subjugation of their peoples and lifetime tenures for themselves in order to actualize their goals of conquering their eternal enemies – Americans and Jews.

Today, we have a new crop of inveterate America- and Jew-haters, among them the Marxist leader of Venezuela Hugo Chavez, Nicaragua’s president Daniel Ortega, Iran’s “death-to-America-and-Israel” study-in-abnormal-psychology Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and the ever-sabotage-America and anti-Semitic “leaders” of the 22-Arab states that surround Israel.

I have either read about or observed firsthand all of these people. Yet in my decades of commenting on the political scene, I cannot recall a single leader of any country or regime who has ever spoken negatively of his country or tolerated others speaking ill of the land or the people he represented

Until now
Bizarre and, yes, repugnant as it is to our essentially centrist country, America now has a president who has broken that time-honored tradition. Barack Obama, on the campaign trail and as the leader of the free world is the first U.S. president to proclaim to anyone within earshot that he, like his wife, is not proud of his country, and is all-too-willing to offer serial apologies – for America! – to Americans and foreigners alike.

As Ed Lasky writes: “We know that during the campaign [Obama] warned that criticism of his wife was `off-limits’. But criticism of America – well, that is fine.”

We also know that during his run for the presidency, Obama expressed sneering condescension towards all those bible-clasping, gun-owning yahoos who “cling” to those silly things, and that in Europe he consistently gave voice to America’s supposed “sins.” But all that pales in comparison to the clear contempt – looks more like hatred to me – that Obama feels for the United States of America and for its most revered founding document, the U.S. Constitution.

In just the first 100-days of his tenure, Obama’s words and actions have demonstrated that he is no friend of the country he leads. This is only a smattering of what happened on his recent three-continent trip abroad and to Mexico:


In France, Obama told his audience that America “has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive” toward Europe.
In Prague, Obama – in true utopian-kindergarten fashion – pledged “with conviction” that America will “seek the peace and security of a world without nuclear weapons.” In other words, destroy big bad America’s ability to defend itself!
In London, Obama made clear that the world’s financial wealth was no longer made by those inferior leaders Roosevelt and Churchill, effectively ceding America’s leading role in creating and sharing wealth to nations that have never measured up to our country’s bountiful generosity or spirit of free-market entrepreneurship.
In Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago, Obama sat passively while the Marxist Chavez handed him an American-bashing book and delivered another revile-America speech, while never once rising to defend our country.
In Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago, Obama again sat passively while the Marxist Ortega blamed the United States for a century of what he called terroristic U.S. aggression in Central America, again emitting not a whisper of defense on our country’s behalf.
In Turkey, Obama said – incredibly and inaccurately – that America was not a Christian nation.
And in his recent trip to Mexico, Obama said that the escalating border violence was essentially America’s fault.
Scan you memory. Can you think of any other leader in world history who so consistently badmouths his own country, or fails to defend it? I can’t.

Wall St. Journal writer Dorothy Rabinowitz notes that Obama “had gone to Europe not as the voice of his nation, but as a missionary with a message of atonement for its errors. No sitting American president had ever delivered indictments of this kind while abroad, or for that matter at home. When [our allies] see Obama’s moral equivalence, they realize they are on their own and must cut their own deals to survive – understanding that multicultural trendiness is now a cynical cover for moral laxity and ‘can’t we all get along?’

Historian Victor Davis Hanson also noticed something odd about Obama’s apology tour. “Despite this fresh climate of atonement, there was a complete absence of a single apology from any other foreign leader…not a word came from Britain about colonialism…nothing from Germany on the Holocaust…not a peep from France about Algeria or Vietnam. Turkey was mum on the Armenian killings…Russia said nothing about the 30 million murdered by Stalin…Nothing came from China about the 70 million who perished under Mao…Mr. Medvedev said nothing about Putin’s brutish rule…We saw no concrete evidence of any help — or hope and change — from any foreign leader. Zilch.”

In addition, Hanson continues, “We hear nothing about our Gettysburg, or our entry into World War I. Iwo Jima and the Bulge are never alluded to. Drawing the line in Korea and forcing the end of the Soviet monstrosity are taboo subjects. That we pledged the life of New York for Berlin in the Cold War is unknown. Liberating Afghanistan and Iraq from the diabolical Taliban and Saddam Hussein is left unsaid. The Civil Rights movement, the Great Society, affirmative action, and present billion-dollar foreign-aid programs apparently never existed. Millions of Africans have been saved by George Bush’s efforts at extending life-saving medicines to AIDS patients — but again, this is never referenced.”

Blogger James Lewis says that Obama’s “obsessive need to put down his own country shows a stunningly ignorant man who has evidently never spoken to a concentration camp survivor, a Cuban refugee, a boat person from Vietnam, a Soviet dissident, or a survivor of Mao’s purges.”

And Media Research Center’s Brent Bozell adds, “Obama `gets’ the America-haters.”

Abandoning allies, Embracing enemies
“If you are a longtime enemy of the United States, count on a grand reception from the Obama administration. All is forgiven and, worse, forgotten,” write Dick Morris and Eileen McGann. “But if you have a track record as an ally or friend, you won’t get the right time of day.”

Of course apologists for Obama & Co. point to “progress” in our foreign policy, ignoring, as Caroline Glick points out, that “America’s betrayal of its democratic allies makes each of them more vulnerable to aggression at the hands of their enemies – enemies the Obama administration is now actively attempting to appease.” Glick lays out the cold hard facts:

Obama abrogated America’s strategic commitment to the defense of our ally Japan when his administration reacted to North Korea’s ballistic missile test by saying the U.S. would only shoot the missile down if it targeted U.S. territory.
Obama slapped our ally India when he refused to make ending Pakistan’s support for jihadist terror groups attacking India a central component of its strategy for contending with Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Obama failed to assure our ally Iraq that democracy and freedom will be secured before U.S. forces are withdrawn next year.
Obama de facto abandoned our allies in Eastern Europe when he announced his intention to forge a new alliance with Russia. “The Czech, Polish, Georgian and Ukrainian governments,” Glick says, “were quick to recognize that Obama’s strong desire to curry favor with the Kremlin and weaken his own country will imperil their ability to withstand Russian aggression.”
Obama “is sacrificing the U.S.’s alliance with our ally Israel “in a bid to appease the Arabs and Iran by supporting the immediate establishment of a Palestinian state,” which, Glick warns, “requires Israel to commit national suicide in exchange for `peace.’” Obama also made clear “that from the administration’s perspective, an Israeli strike that prevents Iran from becoming a nuclear power is less acceptable than a nuclear-armed Iran.” In addition, Obama sent Hamas $900 million of foreign aid, “channeled through the UNRWA, a United Nations front filled with Hamas operatives”
Obama slapped our ally England when he returned the bust of Winston Churchill to Prime Minister Gordon Brown.
Obama slapped our ally Colombia and its president Alvaro Uribe when he refused to submit the free trade deal with Bogota to the Senate.
“What a great time to be our enemy!” Glick exclaims. “What a terrible time to be our friend!”

And speaking about appeasing Iran, the Obama administration recently asked a federal judge to throw out a $6.6-billion class-action lawsuit against Iran filed by 52 American diplomats and military officials held hostage for more than a year at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran 30 years ago. Nothing like selling out Americans to make brownie points with a bloodthirsty dictator!

Barry Rubin explains: “Friends, especially in Europe, are pleased, applaud, but then add that they don’t have to give this guy anything because he is all apologies and no toughness. They like the fact that he is all carrots and no sticks. If, however, they are states more at risk…they worry that they cannot rely on the United States to help and defend them. Enemies or potential rivals…say that this guy is weak and defeated. He apologizes, offers unconditional engagements, and promises concessions…they’ll eat the carrots and, if possible, their neighbors as well.”

NY Post writer Ralph Peters, a former military intelligence officer, sums up the hate-America core tenets of the “Obama Doctrine” as follows:
(1) We’re to blame,
(2) Problems can be negotiated away,
(3) Problems that can’t be talked out can be bought off,
(4) Islamist terrorism doesn’t exist,
(5) It’s all our fault,
(6) Israel’s the obstacle to Middle East peace,
(7) Our nukes threaten world peace and we need to get rid of them,
(8) Our military is dangerous,
(9) Our intelligence services are even more dangerous than our military,
(10) It’s only torture if we do it, and
(11) Blame President George W. Bush.

Obama is clearly not satisfied with threatening the safety of our tried-and-true allies abroad. He is also determined to undermine the bedrock foundation of America’s security – our military and intelligence agencies. By disclosing interrogation memos – and planning to release photographs associated with military probes into prisoner abuse – he has betrayed every heroic person who risks his or her life for our country, and unforgivably given aid-and-comfort to enemies who seethe with virulent anti-Americanism and lust for our demise. And in the Department of Homeland Security’s infamous memo, he has called members of our military, among others, potential domestic terrorists!

“After September 1th, the general outcry was, ‘Why don’t we have better overseas capabilities?’” said Porter Goss, director of the CIA from September 2004 to May 2006. “I fear that in the years to come, this refrain will be heard again. It is certainly not trust that is fostered when intelligence officers are told one day ‘I have your back,’ only to learn a day later that a knife is being held to it.”

How horrifying to contemplate that it is the President of the United States himself who is wielding that back-stabbing knife!

Questioning Obama’s patriotism
Before the November election, legal scholar Henry Mark Holzer wrote – and scrupulously documented – a stunning indictment of Obama in which he stated that Obama’s repeatedly professed claim to be a patriot is “a fraud on the American people – and an insult to the countless true patriots who, for over two hundred years, have loved and loyally and zealously supported the United States of America.”

“Patriots,” Holzer concluded, “don’t associate with and derive sustenance from terrorists, America-haters and anti-Semites; they don’t countenance fixed elections; they don’t keep secrets from voters; they don’t intimidate their enemies; they don’t denigrate and degrade our military; they don’t gratuitously interfere with their government’s efforts to protect our country; and they don’t disdain the symbol of this great nation, which for over two centuries men and women have fought and died: the American flag. Whatever Barack Obama is, we can be certain that he is no patriot!”

The events that have followed Obama’s election, Holzer says, “have compounded the proof of the president’s lack of patriotism,” which he has recently spelled out in a follow-up article. A few of the many examples he provides of what “a patriotic American president does not do include:

Bankrupt this country and court massive inflation in order to implement his vision of a fascist/socialist nation.
Sit on his hands with a straight face while a South American thug insults his country.
Appoint America-haters to his cabinet.
Cozy up to a soon-to-be-nuclear-armed Iranian madman.
Impotently watch the probably-already-nuclear-armed North Korean Stalinists lob a ballistic missile across the Pacific.
Fail to stanch the flow of illegal aliens across the Mexican-United States border.
Cut the defense budget.
Strangle innovation during a serious recession by raising taxes.
Close Guantanamo Bay without a clue of how to handle the enemy combatants incarcerated there.
Publicly announce what measures military and CIA interrogators can use to extract information from terrorists.
Apologize to the world for what has made America great and grovel to persons, nations. and institutions unfit to shine our shoes!
Cede American sovereignty to the American-hating United Nations.
Defy the Second Amendment and a Supreme Court decision by making an end run that substantially reduces the supply of certain ammunition.
Repudiate the policy and practice of missile shield installation.”
Some dare call it treason
It is one thing to question a president’s patriotism, but even more serious to accuse him of treason. In an open letter to Obama on Treason, Walter Francis Fitzpatrick, III (U.S. Naval Academy, Class of 1975) minces no words in accusing the president of sending Army forces to Samson, Alabama, and Boston in violation of the Constitution. Here are excerpts of his letter:

“I have observed and extensively recorded invidious attacks by military-political aristocrats against the Constitution for twenty years. Now you have broken in and entered the White House by force of contrivance, concealment, conceit, and deceit. Posing as an imposter president and commander in chief, you have stripped civilian command and control over the military establishment…
“We come now to the reckoning. I accuse you and your military-political criminal assistants of TREASON. I name you and your military criminal associates as traitors. Your criminal ascension manifests a clear and present danger. You fundamentally changed our form of government. The Constitution no longer works….

“I identify you as a foreign-born domestic enemy. You are not my president. You are not my commander in chief.

Fitzpatrick is not alone. John Smith – a blogger on Townhall.com, titled a recent article “Obama Is a Traitor.” Commenting on the president’s release of the “torture” memos, Smith says:



“Given the actions of Barack Obama in recent days, one has to wonder how many soon-to-be released State secrets have been gathered by radical left-wing traitors and hidden in the dark recesses of Washington, awaiting the Manchurian Candidate’s command to publish them…

“The motivation for Obama’s recent intentional disclosure of Top Secret CIA memoranda…was an act committed solely to increase his own political power through appeasement of the radical left…or was it …guided by the twisted moral imperative uniquely embraced by the Left, which dictates that only those actions that serve to limit individual liberty, punish patriotism, and destroy the traditions and culture of the United States of America are good?…

“Were Obama’s actions motivated by a deeply rooted desire to harm this Nation?…

“Article III of the Constitution defines Treason against the United States as “… levying War against them or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort…”.

“Top Secret information is the highest level of classification that we have on a national level. By definition, such material, if made public, will cause “exceptionally grave damage” to national security…

“The willful disclosure of Top Secret information is an act of Treason against the United States….A sitting President of The United States of America has committed Treason.”

Fitzpatrick and Smith are among a rising tide of voices – in and outside of the military – who have observed with growing horror Obama’s proclivity to destroy our capitalist economic system, subvert the U.S. Constitution, endanger our military and intelligence services, and obsequiously embrace America’s sworn enemies.

Dr. Jack Wheeler, a consummate Washington insider, goes one step further. “The evidence that the President of the United States is a traitor is mounting. The evidence that the President of the United states is a mortal danger to America’s national security is mounting. The evidence that the President of the United States will not defend America from threats and insults from every two-bit fascist dictator in the world …is not only mounting, it is overwhelming.”

Writer Amy L. Geiger-Hammer states: “I do wonder if Obama should be called a traitor or just incompetent…does he ever talk about what a great country America is?”
And UK journalist Gerald Warner echoes that rising tide: “If al-Qaeda, the Taliban and the rest of the Looney Tunes brigade want to kick America to death, they had better move in quickly and grab a piece of the action before Barack Obama finishes the job himself. Never in the history of the United States has a president worked so actively against the interests of his own people - not even Jimmy Carter. Obama’s problem is that he does not know who the enemy is. To him, the enemy does not squat in caves in Waziristan, clutching automatic weapons and reciting the more militant verses from the Koran: instead, it sits around at tea parties in Kentucky quoting from the US Constitution. “

Is America Lost?
Multiple lawsuits to find proof that Obama is Constitutionally ineligible to be president are ongoing and will ultimately determine if he is an American or Kenyan or Indonesian or UK “natural-born” citizen. To this date, he has spent over a million dollars blocking the suits about his still-missing birth certificate, and there is increasing evidence that the birth certificate attested to by FactCheck.org, FightTheSmears.org, and DailyKos.com are forgeries. And of course we still have not seen Obama’s Selective Service record, medical records, multiple visas, college transcripts, et al.

If Obama is proven to be the fraud and interloper many suspect, every one of his edicts, bills, laws, dictates, Supreme Court selections, et al, will be overturned , leaving America to cope with serious problems – under the leadership of the incomprehensible Joe Biden – but nothing approaching this hate-America president’s far-left socialist domestic programs and appease-our-enemies foreign policy.

The huge national turnouts at the Tea Parties of April 15 were only the beginning of a movement that was spurred by ordinary Americans waking up to Obama’s destruction of our economy, his attempts to reshape America into a banana republic, the grave damage he’s inflicted on our military and intelligence services, and his unsavory predilection for embracing our enemies and apologizing non-stop for the most magnificent nation on earth.

In short, they are waking up to the president who hates his country.

Editor Charlotte Baker predicts that “the Tea Parties and other, more aggressive, protests will grow exponentially, and that the Obama juggernaut can and will be stopped.” It’s crucial, she says, “for all Americans to recall the history they learned in school – at least before the Left hijacked what used to be known as `education.’ The Europeans, Japanese and Russians were all taken over by one form or another of totalitarianism because their combined history was one of absolute rulers – kings, czars and `divine’ emperors. They were totally conditioned to tyranny.

“But the monstrous anti-American gang that rigged the voting system on November 4, 2008– as they do routinely in Obama’s Chicago Machine politics – to push Obama into We-the-People’s White House, have shown – even before his inauguration – the kind of overreaching that arrogant tyrants always demonstrate. Hitler, Mao, Tojo and Stalin all got away with overreaching, but they weren’t brutalizing Americans.

“Tolerating totalitarianism is simply not in the genetic code – the DNA – of Americans!” Baker adds. “Freedom and Liberty run in our blood!”

Indeed!

Anonymous said...

Once again old Bigfoot Hale announces he is riding into the sunset.Well,that is if he doesn't decide to have a money bomb again...messenger ____________________________________ Ed Hale



May 5, 2009 - 2:21AM QuoteReply time for Plains Radio to ride into the sunset

Folks: Phil Berg, Lisa Liberia, Momma E, Lisa Ostello and some more have sued me, Caren, Dr Orly, and a whole bunch of other people. This was filed today and I have talked to Dr Orly and she assures me that she has the proof that she stated on Plains Radio. I am just tired of these people trying to destory me. My hsot think that I am too hard on them for making sure I don't get sued, and now for having a guest on, these people come out again. Lisa O has used Dr Orly web site to collect $1000 of dollars. We have proof of that. According to Dr Orly, Lisa Liberia lives in Santa Fee, NM and she is on probation out there for fraud, forger and some other things. How Momma E got into this, I will never know, but then I guess when you don't have any money, you will do anything to get it from someone else. So folks, put yoruself in my shoes, I will get sued for anything, because they know that Caren and I have money. I am very flustrated and I don't know what to do. Caren and I have worked very hard for what we have, just to let some people try and take it from us. I don't think that I can keep Plains Radio going any more with all this crap. I will wait and read what your post to make the decision.
State: Texas

Ed Hale



May 5, 2009 - 2:23AM QuoteReply Re: time for Plains Radio to ride into the sunset

Here it the link
http://www.tsrn.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/liberi-docket.pdf
State: Texas

Anonymous said...

Interesting that Ed Hale admits he has money,even though he has guilt tripped listeners into donating all these past months and has had an auction to stay on the air.Plus,this time he is going to wait on responses berfore shutting down.The last time he gave a week deadline and other than some fawning praise,many listeners said they were tapped out,especially with the forum fee ploy.His ads and gimmicks have made him money,and this is another game.Sad.These hucksters and shyster lawyers have damaged a great opportunity to rally large numbers of Americans to come together to demand action in DC over the eligibility issue.You can tell by the dwindling posts on blogs and the same useless ideas of trying to orgasnze and the futile pleas to get mainstream media support.Or the foolish notion of writing to the traitors in DC to do thier jobs.We should know by now that the information is known by these people and they have an agenda to keep it in the dark.It is coming to light,but it is leading to explosive conclusion as the Illuminists have planned for later this year.

Anonymous said...

Blog by Larry Sinclair on the lawsuit against Orly and Hale-- Tuesday, May 5, 2009
LIBERI et al v. TAITZ et al
Well I guess the threats made against me by Orly Taitz supporters that Taitz was going to take me to court is the least my worries. It looks like Dr. Taitz has her hand full. Like I said in the very first post, you have to do things honestly and when you resort to the same tactics as the Obama people just because you let your ego get the best of you, you end up being held accountable.

The only way any effort to expose Obama for the fraud that he is will succeed, it will require people to stop slandering other people just because you want to make yourself look more important than you are. When you become more important than the issue, you put yourself in this very position.

I am sorry to see that this has come to this, but I am glad that people have started standing up and fighting back when they are slandered and libel by anyone. For too long, people have thought it was okay to make claims against people regardless of them having any truth to them.

I will be able in the near future to post something that will make it clear that people will be made known and held accountable for their statements and actions. Mine however will not be against anyone seeking to expose Obama, after all, I have always been independent of all this.

Anonymous said...

One has to ask some serious questions about Berg,Orly,and Ed.After the release of Berg's lawsuit docket yeasterday,we are still seing Orly defend her actions,Ed talking as usual on the radio tonight,and as for Berg,this isn't the first time he's threatend lawsuits,although it appears he is following up on it this time around.______________________________ Check public records for yourselves, see that I am providing truthful information
May 5th, 2009
I would like to respond in regards to some allegations that came forward recently.

As you can see in dossier #6 on this blog, I have received verified information from a licenced CA Private Investigator Mr. Neil Sankey (license 10905) , that Lisa Liberi, working as a paralegal for Phil Berg has a lengthy criminal record of grand theft and forgery (see dossier #6).

I have sent Mr. Berg this information, he never responded and never denied it. Due to the fact that Ms. Liberi has access to numerous documents and donations, I was obligated to provide this information to the public. Information that was provided, is public record and I urge everybody to call San Bernardino, CA criminal court system as well as NM probation officer (number in dossier) and verify that all the information is correct. I have urged Mr. Berg to disassociated himself and his practice and donation efforts from this person and hire a forensic accountant and forensic document examiner to review all documents and forensic records handled by her. Mr. Berg did not do so. From what I understand their website was under lockdown and Ms. Liberi went by name Agent88.

Paperwork filed yesterday was nothing but slander against me, a lot of sand in the eyes, but if you read carefully, the only thing they are trying to do, is further hide Liberi’s identity, saying that there is an undisclosed address and asking for a new social security number. They do not and cannot deny following important points:

1. Lisa Liberi, working for Philip Berg, resides in New Mexico, previously resided in CA and has a lengthy record of grand theft and forgery of documents.

2. Phil Berg was warned by me and a volunteer, that her continuing association with the Obama litigation undermines everybody’s work and everybody’s effords, as it puts into question integrity of fundraising of donations and veracity of any and all documents handled by her.

3. Regardless of what might be financial and other arrangements of Mr. Berg with Ms. Liberi, as an officer of the court, he had a duty to disassociate his fundraising efforts and legal research from her. I believe he owes this to all the patriots involved in this effort, particularly people like me working 24/7. He has an obligation to hire a forensic accountant and forensic document examiner and check all the records. Imagine, if any of Obama eligibility cases go to trial, Berg and any and all attorneys will be impeached and reasonable doubt will be in the minds of the jurors, if they know that the documents presented, were gathered by a person with the record of forged documents, that the supervising attorney knew about it and made no effort to disasiociate himself and verify the records by the licensed professional. Rest assured, that if I could obtain this information about Ms. Liberi, so could Obama’s attorneys, with millions of dollars available to them. I am wondering if Ms. Liberi’s association with Mr. Berg was mastermind by somebody, as she had a conviction in March of last year, was supposed to serve 8 years in San Bernardino CA, but the sentence was reduced to probation and restitution to victims.

4. On the contrary, as the first donors reported to me problems with pay-pal, I have reported this to the police and FBI immediately. The reports were posted on the blog. When web master Lisa Ostella has stated that she wants me to take back my complaint, I switched to a different web master and made sure that with the current web master my e-mail address is listed on the registration of the domain, in order not to have the same problem. Ms. Ostella’s actions as a web master in locking me out of my web site, allowing several days of defamatory statements and later defrauding the donors and my foundation, by sending e-mails and claiming to represent foundation and soliciting donations for the foundation are inexcusable and will have to be prosecuted in due time.

5. I did not intent to prosecute this matter at this time, as I felt that Obama eligibility prosecution and research is more important for the country at large, however I will respond as required to the filing by Mr. Berg.

6. I wonder in regards to timing of this complaint, as I am making progress in a number of states and with a number of plaintiffs. If Mr. Berg is really concerned about this country and it’s future, he should dismiss this outrageous and frivolous complaint immediately, disassociate himself from both Ms Ostella and Ms. Liberi and not waste my time, that is needed to organize more citizen grand juries, more meetings with attorney generals of the states, local FBI offices, US attorneys, grown numbers in resistance movement and turn this country around. All of the stonewalling that we have observed, indicates that the problem is much bigger, then birth certificate. I am the only attorney, who has the courage to bring to the forefront all of the evidence of forgery,perjury, multiple social security numbers, unreported job positions. Judges are hesitant to decide based on birth certificate only. it is extremely important to push for criminal investigation of all the issues. This frivolous law suit simply wastes my time and resources.

Dr. Orly Taitz Esq.
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ ____________________________________ So,we see that Orly is sticking to her accusations.The criminal complaint of Berg's appears damning.That is if Orly is lying.She certainly is wrong in sending out Soc.Sec. and other personal information publicly.Ed has gone beyond free speech with his defamation.But how Berg has suffered in all this is highly dubious.These three characters have raised red flags for any discerning individual over the past 6-9 months.Berg has stuck with the BC story which is odd,given the fact that it isn't an eligibility POTUS requisite.Orly has been all over the place with her actions.And ED"s shenanigans surfaced early on with one false promis after another.None of these people have heeded sound advice and offers of legal advice.Mario Apuzzo wrote long legal posts on Orly's original blog and others have as well.He finally gave up and filed a lawsuit for Kechner.Leo tried to help Orly as well.Berg always tells callers to email him,but has never taken any of the salient information and used it.All three have raised money in diverse ways,yet noe feel the need to be accountable to their contributors.Hale never pressed Pidgeon for the promised dossier.And to this day has no shame for past lies and wrondoings.I wouldn't be surprised if Hale and Taitz have a new legal defense fund donation button up soon.

Anonymous said...

Although there is very little time left,and the state sovereignty movement is a good step in the right direction,it is Montana that has the right idea,which is to tell the Federal Government to back off or they will secede.______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ May 5, 2009
MONTANA DEFIES FEDS OVER RESTRICTIVE GUN LAWS
Montana Governor Signs New Gun Law

Executive Summary - The USA state of Montana has signed into power a revolutionary gun law. I mean REVOLUTIONARY.

The State of Montana has defied the federal government and their gun laws. This will prompt a showdown between the federal government and the State of Montana. The federal government fears citizens owning guns. They try to curtail what types of guns they can own. The gun control laws all have one common goal - confiscation of privately owned firearms.

Montana has gone beyond drawing a line in the sand. They have challenged the Federal Government. The fed now either takes them on and risks them saying the federal agents have no right to violate their state gun laws and arrest the federal agents that try to enforce the federal firearms acts. This will be a world-class event to watch. Montana could go to voting for secession from the union, which is really throwing the gauntlet in Obamas face. If the federal government does nothing they lose face.



Important Points - If guns and ammunition are manufactured inside the State of Montana for sale and use inside that state then the federal firearms laws have no applicability since the federal government only has the power to control commerce across state lines. Montana has the law on their side. But, since when did the USA start following their own laws especially the constitution of the USA, the very document that empowers the USA?

Silencers made in Montana and sold in Montana would be fully legal and not registered. As a note, silencers were first used before the 007 movies as a device to enable one to hunt without disturbing neighbors and scaring game. They were also useful as devices to control noise when practicing so as to not disturb the neighbors.

Silencers work best with a bolt-action rifle. There is a long barrel and the chamber is closed tight so as to direct all the gases though the silencer at the tip of the barrel. Semi-auto pistols and revolvers do not really muffle the sound very well except on the silver screen. The revolvers bleed gas out with the sound all over the place. The semi-auto pistols bleed the gases out when the slide recoils back.

Silencers are maybe nice for snipers picking off enemy soldiers even though they reduce velocity but not very practical for hit men shooting pistols in crowded places. Silencers were useful tools for gun enthusiasts and hunters.

There would be no firearm registration, serial numbers, criminal records check, waiting periods or paperwork required. So in a short period of time there would be millions and millions of unregistered untraceable guns in Montana. Way to go Montana.

Discussion - Let us see what Obama does. If he hits Montana hard they will probably vote to secede from the USA. The governor of Texas has already been refusing Federal money because he does not want to agree to the conditions that go with it and he has been saying secession is a right they have as sort of a threat. Things are no longer the same with the USA. Do not be deceived by Obama acting as if all is the same, it is not.

Text of the New Law

HOUSE BILL NO. 246

INTRODUCED BY J. BONIEK, BENNETT, BUTCHER, CURTISS, RANDALL, WARBURTON
AN ACT EXEMPTING FROM FEDERAL REGULATION UNDER THE COMMERCE CLAUSE OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES A FIREARM, A FIREARM ACCESSORY, OR AMMUNITION MANUFACTURED AND RETAINED IN MONTANA; AND PROVIDING AN APPLICABILITY DATE.

BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF MONTANA:

Section 1. Short title. [Sections 1 through 6] may be cited as the "Montana Firearms Freedom Act".

Section 2. Legislative declarations of authority. The legislature declares that the authority for [sections 1 through 6] is the following:

(1) The 10th amendment to the United States constitution guarantees to the states and their people all powers not granted to the federal government elsewhere in the constitution and reserves to the state and people of Montana certain powers as they were understood at the time that Montana was admitted to statehood in 1889. The guaranty of those powers is a matter of contract between the state and people of Montana and the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.

(2) The ninth amendment to the United States constitution guarantees to the people rights not granted in the constitution and reserves to the people of Montana certain rights, as they were understood at the time that Montana was admitted to statehood in 1889. The guaranty of those rights is a matter of contract between the state and people of Montana and the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.

(3) The regulation of intrastate commerce is vested in the states under the 9th and 10th amendments to the United States constitution, particularly if not expressly preempted by federal law. Congress has not expressly preempted state regulation of intrastate commerce pertaining to the manufacture on an intrastate basis of firearms, firearms accessories, and ammunition.

(4) The second amendment to the United States constitution reserves to the people the right to keep and bear arms as that right was understood at the time that Montana was admitted to statehood in 1889, and the guaranty of the right is a matter of contract between the state and people of Montana and the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.(5) Article II, section 12, of the Montana constitution clearly secures to Montana citizens, and prohibits government interference with, the right of individual Montana citizens to keep and bear arms. This constitutional protection is unchanged from the 1889 Montana constitution, which was approved by congress and the people of Montana, and the right exists, as it was understood at the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.

Section 3. Definitions. As used in [sections 1 through 6], the following definitions apply:
(1) "Borders of Montana" means the boundaries of Montana described in Article I, section 1, of the 1889 Montana constitution.

(2) "Firearms accessories" means items that are used in conjunction with or mounted upon a firearm but are not essential to the basic function of a firearm, including but not limited to telescopic or laser sights, magazines, flash or sound suppressors, folding or aftermarket stocks and grips, speedloaders, ammunition carriers, and lights for target illumination.

(3) "Generic and insignificant parts" includes but is not limited to springs, screws, nuts, and pins.

(4) "Manufactured" means that a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition has been created from basic materials for functional usefulness, including but not limited to forging, casting, machining, or other processes for working materials.

Section 4. Prohibitions. A personal firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition that is manufactured commercially or privately in Montana and that remains within the borders of Montana is not subject to federal law or federal regulation, including registration, under the authority of congress to regulate interstate commerce. It is declared by the legislature that those items have not traveled in interstate commerce. This section applies to a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition that is manufactured in Montana from basic materials and that can be manufactured without the inclusion of any significant parts imported from another state. Generic and insignificant parts that have other manufacturing or consumer product applications are not firearms, firearms accessories, or ammunition, and their importation into Montana and incorporation into a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition manufactured in Montana does not subject the firearm, firearm accessory, or ammunition to federal regulation. It is declared by the legislature that basic materials, such as unmachined steel and unshaped wood, are not firearms, firearms accessories, or ammunition and are not subject to congressional authority to regulate firearms, firearms accessories, and ammunition under interstate commerce as if they were actually firearms, firearms accessories, or ammunition. The authority of congress to regulate interstate commerce in basic materials does not include authority to regulate firearms, firearms accessories, and ammunition made in Montana from those materials. Firearms accessories that are imported into Montana from another state and that are subject to federal regulation as being in interstate commerce do not subject a firearm to federal regulation under interstate commerce because they are attached to or used in conjunction with a firearm in Montana.

Section 5. Exceptions. [Section 4] does not apply to:

(1) A firearm that cannot be carried and used by one person;
(2) A firearm that has a bore diameter greater than 1 1/2 inches and that uses smokeless powder, not black powder, as a propellant;
(3) ammunition with a projectile that explodes using an explosion of chemical energy after the projectile leaves the firearm; or
(4) a firearm that discharges two or more projectiles with one activation of the trigger or other firing device.

Section 6. Marketing of firearms. A firearm manufactured or sold in Montana under [sections 1 through 6] must have the words "Made in Montana" clearly stamped on a central metallic part, such as the receiver or frame.

Section 7. Codification instruction. [Sections 1 through 6] are intended to be codified as an integral part of Title 30, and the provisions of Title 30 apply to [sections 1 through 6].

Section 8. Applicability. [This act] applies to firearms, firearms accessories, and ammunition that are manufactured, as defined in [section 3], and retained in Montana after October 1, 2009.
http://www.norcalblogs.com/post_scripts/2009/05/montana_defies_feds_-_thr.html

Anonymous said...

Here's a good comment about Orly- ToeCutter wrote:
Orly's website is chock full of kiddie script java malware.

I realize most of you do not understand this and wouldn't know what to look for. But it is part of my job to know.

As a webmistress there isn't anything other than what Lisa has done that will protect her integrity. I can let her being a birther slide.

Since Orly is a lawyer her claiming ignorance of the internet is a bit rich. Even a second rate ambulance chasing lawyer knows that ignorance is never an excuse.

And for you Orly supporters. If she continues down the current path she is following she surely will find herself on the wrong end of the law that will make this lawsuit pall in comparison.

People who complain about the "brown shirts' while attempting to create them for their own purpose generally don't fare to well. http://defendourfreedoms.net/2009/05/05/new-lawsuit-filed-against-orly-taitz-and-ed-hale.aspx#Comment And from the same website a good one fromone of the Plaintifss in the lawsuit against Ed Hale,Orly,et al.,-- MommaE wrote:
Ch,

While I appreciate that you have such a way with words, I am here to tell you that if you print another lie about me you will find yourself on that Law Suit also.

I have NEVER attacked Ed Hale, nor have I lured people away from his show or web site.

I did not ask to advertise, nor am I advertising on this site. Lisa simply said she was going to link my show if it was ok and I said yes. When my show was linked on here, it was NO longer Tatiz's site, as I have NEVER had anything to do with her and NEVER will.

I have been attacked, harassed, slandered, defamed, embarrassed, ridiculed, accused of being a thief, had a false criminal record posted saying it was me, accused of being a thief and of stealing money from Tatiz's as well as the American people. I ignored this from Aug 2008, until Jan 30th and then filed a Cease, Desist and Retraction of Libel and it still didn't stop. My daughter, grandsons, other family members and friends have been attacked and embarrassed also, so it was time to do what ever I had to, to stop the crap.

Now here you are posting more lies about me and spreading them around. Lisa is not in my clutches and I had NOTHING to do with her joining and filing her Law Suit that was her choice.

The only Judas Lisa needs to stay away from is Taitz and people like you that wouldn't know the truth if it smacked you in the face and knocked you on your behind. I guess you think it is ok to hug someone that breaks Federal and State Laws and post personal information about people all over the World. If so why don't you give Taitz all of your personal information and let her send it out in her worthless Dossier's that people are getting, not reading, but putting in file 13.

So go on over and give out your SS#, DL#, home address, place of employment (if you work), phone number, cellphone number, DOB, your hubby's info (if you have one) and all of the other perosnal info about you and let Tatiz send it out to over 36,000 people in the US and Internationally and keep sending it out day after day for days on end! Then give her that hug you think she needs. After all she is running around, accomplishing nothing and has NOT one case LEGALLY filed to oust Obama.

Have a nice evening!
________________________________________ MOMMAE wrote in response to a long attack on her from a ch poster.Tonight on blogtalk radio The Chalice Show had a 90 minute special on the lawsuit.Chalice was a victim of Ed's wrath in the past as was MOMMAE.At the time I thought Chalice was sucking up to Ed for a radio show.I was wrong.She just left a comment that was nice for Ed as she left to form her own Patriot Radio Network and blogtalk show.And the lawsuit is factual.I recall Ed slamming this MOMMAE person on numerous occasions.Most people have since learned Ed is bad news.Orly is sticking to her story,but she can't deny posting private information of many people on her website.Berg admits his donation fund is not a charitable setup,but I have my resrvations about him.Still,Orly and Hale are not going to have it easy here.As Chalice said tonight,this is all drama,and she'd rather not cover this,but it is necessary.I agree.

Gort said...

Believe it or not,Ed Hale has made another promise of bringing Obama down.Tonight he was on his radio show and said he is filing a criminal complaint against Berg.He claims there was alot of bullshit on Chalice's show tonight.And his guest says they have a double lawsuit on their hands.He also says he has the smoking gun proof that Berg is employed by Obama.And that his lawsuit will allow for a release of Obama's records.Unreal!This drama gets more convoluted every week.Ed has zero credibility.But what's interesting is how neither Orly or Hale are backing down and keeping their mouths shut.They are all insane!Mark Mcgrew believes Orly is either a foreign agent or an Obama supporter as stated on the Chalice Show tonight.I've thought the same for some time.As for Berg, his constant harping on the BC and asking for money has been a red flagger for me.But of course,Ed is such a lying blowhard.He is saying tonight is his best night of the radio show ever,as he has said dozens of times.He also says he has had the information on Berg since last October,but kept it secret for this time.Another whopper lie he has in his bag of tricks.Distractions!All distractions!It's like they are all in cahoots together.This motley crew has been one big circus freak show.Ed says he's taking calls but will not discuss the evidence.LOL!!!!And that 30-40 people have the evidence and it is safe.Ed's network was going under.Even his forum has a fraction of posts and supporters before the Pidgeon affair which was the last straw for thinking people.One too many false promises.Yet,the man does not give up.I just clicked to check the forum to see if he was starting a new fundraiser and heard his voice.And this show is like all his other sensational shows where he whipped up listeners into a frenzy over false claims.Orly,reposted her Dossier part 6 and a statement yesterday,sticking to her accusations,and this was after the lawsuit was made public knowledge.This appears to be well orchestrated,and a good distraction away from Barry.Keep in mind, this is news that went mainstream on MSNBC.The MSM shills haven't mentioned this movement in months,besides a "birther" slur or two when the Tea Parties were briefly covered.

Gort said...

LOL!!!!Before the show ended he mentioned the new donation needs.And auctions and so on.I knew it was coming!!!!!!!....messenger

Gort said...

The only thing that was correct on Bigfoot's show was a guest that stated how Berg harps on the BC and has the NBC issue messed up.Of course,Ed went on to slam Chalice,a former host of his.Chalice did her best.Berg directs conversations or hangs up the phone and ends interviews.I've heard him to do it in the past.So,for me this isn't about taking sides.Berg,Taitz,and Hale are all strange people in my opinion.They all ramped up their antics after Leo's work gained traction and started educating people on Constitutional Law.Ed just accused MOMMAE of stealing the divorce papers again,and we know those we gotten by Berg before Hale.Talk about throwing caution to the wind.

Gort said...

Ed claims that this is the best news America has ever heard in its' history.LOL!!! Orly is supposed to call in before the show ends.If she does I'll post her comments.

Gort said...

Apparently Ed has "insiders".This sounds hilarious.He claims he had an hour and a half conversation with Walter and someone else.And they told him to reply to the lawsuit to a federal judge that Berg is emplyed by Obama.Then as a criminal complaint there must be "discovery".So,it apeears to be another game ploy,not any evidence that Berg is an Obama employee.The reason this is interesting is that Berg's complaint is pretty detailed and doesn't look frivolous.It is good enough to explode firecrackers,if not fireworks.Unless both claim and counterclaims are dismissed it could expose some of these characters.If not Barry,then at least one of these opportunists.As I've stated in the past,I believe after the dual inauguration,that larger things were at pplay.And if Barry goes down it will be by Illuminati design.If not,this nation is headed for planned chaos soon,regardless of the eligibility issue.

Anonymous said...

According to Bigfoot Hale they have the prrof and it is spread to 30-40 people.And get this,it will be put on a sectret webpage with a password.Just like the Divorce parers.And Ed "I'll tell ya whut" Hale says this wil all be over by next Wednesday.LOL!!! Even if that cement-head had any evidence,he doesn't remember all the judges that have tossed out all the cases that threaten Barry's exposure....m

Anonymous said...

----- Original Message ----
-From: F
To:
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 6:00 PM
Subject: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America? You are being set up America!
Read the article below.
Knowing that average, law-abiding American citizens are now being considered terrorist threats to the government (criminal elites), and spying is authorized, and our constitutional rights are being destroyed on a daily basis, and there are hundreds of detainment camps built across America, and rail cars leading to them, and the truth was just released that 8 top chemical labs all independently found the explosive thermite throughout the wreckage of the WTC, with that fact making the wars in both Afghanistan and Iraq a farce and a tragedy, and massive banking and corporate theft and bailouts and presidential threats to congress of martial law if the bailouts were not given, millions of foreign troops doing "exercises" on our own soil, and so much more - and now, with the government is GPS marking every American's front door, don't these facts, in combination with one another, concern you just a little? You would think that with our financial crisis and spiraling debt, that any ordinary and non-devious government could care less about your GPS coordinates, now would they?
When the domestic politicians have been so radically corrupted by our enemies that they have no options to arrest remaining except to embrace the enemy, and all these events are happening, can't you see any sort of a pattern here at all? GPS the front doors, force people to identify all residents in the Census and then those who are targets are easily rounded up. Sounds impossible in America? Just ask yourself, since when has any nation on earth been liberated from the lessons of history?
Awaken, oh sleeping giant - awaken!
_______________________ Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?

JB Williams Bio
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By JB Williams Wednesday, April 29, 2009
Republican Senator Judd Gregg was Obama’s first choice for the Secretary of Commerce post, and Gregg was actually considering joining the Obama team, until he found out that control of the US Census was being stripped from the Commerce Department and placed under the direct control of White House Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel.
Then, the same week that Americans learned that they were “domestic terrorists”—at least according to Obama’s new DHS (Department of Homeland Security),—if they own a bible, a pocket Constitution or guns, and still believe in Life, Liberty and Freedom, - they also learned that Obama’s Census Bureau had hired thousands of new temporary employees, equipped each with a handheld GPS computer and sent them out to mark GPS coordinates for every residential front door in America.
Oddly, it was this same period that news was breaking of an international flu pandemic, suspected of being a weaponized strain of the virus never before seen, - and that Obama’s team still sees no need to close the US-Mexican border, despite the cross continental spread of a deadly illness now claiming American lives.
Now, if any one of these events happened alone, one might not get too excited. But when a string of such events happen all at once, one begins to question the string of freedom and life threatening coincidences…
I can’t resist the urge to question the authority and purpose behind such a BIG BROTHER initiative, when the official Census itself is not due to be taken until 2010…
No imagination is required to think up a whole laundry list of evil that could be done with a nationwide GPS grid of coordinate’s markers painted on every private home across the country. But I was having trouble thinking up one good reason for it, even one legitimate use that would justify what must be a very expensive undertaking.
According to one of the Census workers, who spoke with me on condition of anonymity, they must GPS mark the coordinates “within 40 ft of every front door” in America and they are supposed to complete that mission nation wide, within 90 days, by the end of July 2009.
The workers were not told why they were GPS marking every front door. But a supervisor is sent out to follow them door-to-door, to make certain that no door is left unmarked. Every door will be marked by one employee, and then checked by a follow-up supervisor.
So, I had to ask, why?
Why does the Obama administration need or want the latitude and longitude coordinates for every home in America? Why the rush to GPS paint every home in the next 90 days? Why must the marker be within 40 ft of every front door? For what possible purpose does the Fed need GPS coordinates for every home, and under what authority do they have the right? Census workers, whom I asked, had the same holy-crap look on their faces that I had by then…
ACORN signed on as a national partner with the U.S. Census Bureau in February 2009 to assist with the recruitment of the 1.4 million temporary workers needed to go door-to-door to count every person in the United States — currently believed to be more than 306 million people. But the count doesn’t take place until 2010… This is April 2009.
Obama’s interest in an ACORN controlled 2010 Census, for the purpose of redistricting to the advantage of Democrats before the 2010 mid-term elections, comes as NO shock from a regime known for their heavy handed Rules for Radicals political strategies. But what does this have to do with GPS marking every home in the country?
The 2% of Americans, who have served military duty at some point in life, are very familiar with the most common use of GPS target painting. The other 98% of Americans might want to pick up a book on the subject, such as The Precision Revolution: GPS and the Future of Aerial Warfare ...
Their Authority?
RightSoup.com has just about the only online report available on the matter, and they report, “Why does the government (and ACORN) need to have the GPS coordinates of your FRONT DOOR? Your house is probably on Google Maps already. But the front door? Sounds like a jackboot convenience to me. This is a developing story, and several reports of those who have already been visited by the GPS squad can be found in this forum thread.”
If you challenge Census Bureau employees about the GPS marking of your private residence, you will be handed a preprinted explanation referring you to Sec. 223, Title 13, U.S. Code, Chapter 7, Subtitle 2, which explains the penalties for refusing to provide names and statistics of occupants when asked for by a census taker. This only applies when they are taking a census, (which will not be taken until next year), and the penalty for refusing to answer questions for a census is up to a $500 fine.
However, since the actual Census is not due to be taken until 2010, nobody is asking for any information today. They are only GPS marking your front door today, and Sec. 223, Title 13, U.S. Code, Chapter 7, Subtitle 2 provides the Fed NO authority to GPS paint your front door.
Best I can tell, the Fed has NO authority whatsoever, to paint the front door of every private residence in America. Still, that is exactly what they are doing. Now, the trillion dollar question is, why?
A State of Emergency
From Wikipedia - The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed on June 16, 1878 after the end of Reconstruction, with the intention of substantially limiting the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement. The Act prohibits most members of the federal uniformed services from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain “law and order” on non-federal property (such as states and their counties and municipal divisions) within the United States.
In short, the statute generally prohibits federal military personnel and units of the National Guard operating under federal authority, from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States.
As members of the military are sworn to protect and defend the Constitution and the American people against all enemies, both foreign and domestic, a federal order to do the exact opposite, and take aim at American citizens, would be a clear violation of the US Constitution and the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, unless…
US Military personnel are trained to follow orders. But they are also obligated to refuse any order deemed “unlawful.” In order to make such an order appear “lawful,” the federal government would first have to declare a national “state of emergency,” such as in the case of an international pandemic, which can be demonstrated to threaten the health and well-being of American citizens.
Following a state of emergency declaration, a federal order for Martial Law would be expected, to allegedly provide law enforcement and security for citizens. This type of scenario can be followed by a presidential order to quarantine, disarm and contain American citizens in the name of national security, all of it, having the appearance of being “lawful.”
Is this what is happening?
Connecting the Dots
Alone, individual events look concerning, but not conspiratorial. What about when you place the pieces of the puzzle together and take a look at the entire picture developing?
Under this “theory,” how does the GPS marking of every private residence in the nation fit into the picture?
I wish I knew… but I don’t!
What I do know is this… Coincidences of this number and magnitude don’t happen. They certainly do not happen all at the same time, within hours or days of each other, out of the wild blue tin-foil hat heaven…
I also know that people had better start asking the right people the right questions and demanding answers fast. Begin with asking the mainstream press why there has been no public notification of the federal governments GPS marking your front door?
Then, I suggest contacting your local Census Bureau office immediately, and demanding an explanation as well as advice as to what law gives them the right to GPS paint every front door in America?
I’d also recommend sending a copy of this column to your state and federal representative, demanding that they put a stop to it or explain why it’s necessary, and what law gives them the right?
Unfortunately, we live in a moment of history when real events are much stranger than nutty conspiracy theories. The people have every right to know what is happening. But unless you demand to know, nobody’s talking!
Bill Clinton sold US nuclear technology to Red China for a mere $300,000 in campaign contributions. The event landed Chinese bagman Johnny Chung in prison, but put Hillary Clinton in the US Senate, and now at the helm of the US State Department.
Highly secured government servers are hacked daily. Soon, hackers will be able to grab a nation wide GPS grid map, marking the front door of every home in America.
How much is a GPS grid of every American household worth to the enemies of America, both foreign and domestic? I’d estimate, PRICELESS!
There is a foul odor resonating from the current regime in Washington DC and most Americans can smell it. Can most Americans gather the strength to do something about it?
U.S. Census Bureau
The Department of Commerce

Contacting the Congress

(Response)


FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer
TO: F
DATE May 5, 2009
SUBJECT: Reply

Dear F.

You ask the question, why GPS coordinates for every house. Under martial law and severe protests/rioting, the plan is to use GPS locations for the military to easily destroy by missile any undesirables on the HLS lists quite quickly and easily. This is the same tactic Israel used on Gaza.

In your comments on proposed gun bans of Americans over sixty, the second Amendment has no meaning to the Obama/Bush/Clinton Cabal, because they are operating under a Corporate U.S. and have been since 1933. Obama is the President of the U.S. Corporation and the Cabinet and Congress are on the Corporate Board of Directors.

Abe Lincoln started the first Executive Orders and made his own laws when the southern Congressmen walked out. All presidents since have done the same. These "directives" become corporate law. It's time for a spring house cleaning.

In Love and Light,
Patrick H. Bellringer


Source: http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/homeland_security_patriot_act_fema/news.php?q=1241545465

Anonymous said...

Ed Hale will most likely not have his big blockbuster show next Wednesday.I think someine finally told him to keep his trap shut until the lawsuit is over.Here's a couple disclaimers from Plains Radio ----- PLAINS RADIO NETWORK. INC DISCLAIMER

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Anonymous said...

From Orly --- First of all, I got a number of questions in re to Lisa Liberi, as through some surrogates Lisa Liberi was spreading rumors that she is an innocent Lisa Liberi, residing in PA and the one, I’ve written about is a different Lisa Liberi, residing in New Mexico.

Well, in the pleadings prepared by her and Berg and in their joint radio appearance on the redio of Momma E aka Evelyn Adams, they admitted that I provided correct and truthful information, as Liberi stated that after I provided her address, she became fearful of her ex-husband and now she needs to go into hiding and change her social security number. The only information I provided, is one of Lisa Liberi, residing in NM. If she would’ve been this woman residing in PA, she would’ve had no reason to be concerned about me providing an address in NM.

She does reside in NM, she corresponds with Berg via e-mails and phone and Berg needs to explain to the public and donors, what is his justification for continuing employment of one with such a serious criminal record of forgery and grand theft.

Initial evidence in Obama eligibility case became a public record in August of 2008. I am not using a record of affidavits, that they presented, but I would like to confirm this school registration, that originally was published in a newspaper in Indonesia. Can someone find it?

I am, also, looking for the newspaper article, that has a full press conference with Janet Okubo, spokesperson for the Director of Health of HI Dr. Chiyome Fukino. Can anyone find this full press conference?
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/_______________________________________ None of these characters are backing down.At least not yet.

Anonymous said...

Orly still maintains she and Hale had the divorce papers first.I remember Berg saying he had them long ago.But he never posted them on his website.--------- Information update on both Liberi and Obama
May 9th, 2009
Submitted on 2009/05/09 at 5:09am
His last postings on his site:

THE LATEST

01/02/2009: PRESS RELEASE - Philip J. Berg, Esquire Obtained the Obama 1964 Divorce File

01/02/09: BERG files a lawsuit on behalf of a RETIRED COLONEL The lawsuit is an “Interpleader” that shifts the burden of proof to OBAMA Further, OBAMA is named as “BARRY SOETORO” as that is his “real” name when he was legally adopted in Indonesia

01/02/09: The latest in the Berg vs. Obama Case No. 08 - 570 is that there are two conferences scheduled; one for January 9, 2009 to hear the Petition for Writ of Certiorari and the other for January 16, 2009 to hear the Petition for Injunction.




I got this information. Beginning of January was the last time there was any info posted on Berg’s site.

By the way, Berg and Lisa Liberi got Dunham-Soetoro divorce papers from me and they got Dunham-Obama divorce papers from Ed Hale.

Prior to the electoral vote I tried to file a legal action on behalf of the electors, to get verification of Obama’s eligibility. I got in touch with some attorneys in Conservative red states and asked them to file with me and sign Pro Hac Vice- it is a form that allows an out of state attorney to work together with the in state attorney. I Worked with an attorney in AL, Keith Cornett and later Ben Dupre, associate of Moral law center, that is ran by former Chief Justice of Al Supreme Court Rory Moore. I studied all of Al elections statutes and Keith Cornett filed a request in HI to get Dunham divorce papers. When he couldn’t get them, I got in touch with attorney Jim Hochberg in HI and he personally went to the court house and got the Dunham -Soetoro papers. I e-mailed Berg and stated that I got these divorce papers and would like to know if they want them, since it can help both cases. Berg asked me to e-mail them and later Lisa Liberi called and asked to mail a hard copy.

Dunham-Obama divorce papers were obtained by Ed Hale, who paid a private investigator to go to HI and obtain the copy.

I never asked for any credit. Many of you read my blog and you could see that I didn’t even mention hundreds and hundreds of hours I’ve spent trying to bring an action on behalf of electors, who would have a better standing. At the end we could not file such action in AL, since the statutes were amorphous, it wasn’t a strong hook, however Mr. Robert Cusanelli, an elector from AL, who actually voted in the 2008 electoral college, became one of my plaintiffs. Now you know how much work was done in conjunction with this one plaintiff, one out of over a 100.

Considering all the work that I have done, the allegations coming from Berg, are just outrageous and hurtful. I believe a lot of what Berg is doing now is related to some criminal issues involving Lisa Liberi. I got information from one of the people that worked with Berg and Lisa Liberi, whereby Lisa Liberi stated that she gets disability payments from social security and those payments were paid by Berg to her husband, so that she can continue receiving disability payments. I decided to check this matter and called James Secord-District Attorney of San Bernardino county in CA, who prosecuted Lisa Liberi, when she got 8 years in jail for grand theft and forgery and this jail term was stayed and reduced to probation and restitution, supposedly because of her medical disability. Mr. Secord has confirmed all of the information in regards to her conviction and stated that she is indeed getting disability payments from the government. If Berg is paying her for her services and it is done in any form: check or cash or indirectly through her husband, it is a very serious offense for both of them. I would like to find as much information, as I possibly can in regards to this matter. If you have donated to Berg, where did the donation go? I believe, Berg filed this frivolous action to keep everybody quiet about Lisa Liberi’s past and her current actions. Another matter, that I am trying to ascertain, where does she get the restitution that she owes to the victims of her felonious activities in CA. If you read dossier #6, you can see that the total restitution is $21,000 per month. Possibly it was reduced to 12,000 per month. Where is this money coming from? If she is on disability and her husband is working at a factory, where do they get this kind of money? This is a catch 22. If she is not paying restitution, she is supposed to go back to jail and serve her 8 year term. If she is paying this restitution and she is paid by Berg, then there are two very serious problems:

a. she is working with donations and other people’s credit cards, which means she is violating her probation and supposed to go back to jail. Berg should not be allowing her to be anywhere near the donations

b. If she is getting any payments from Berg, while getting disability, that is fraud and she is supposed to go back to jail and is supposed to be prosecuted on these additional charges.

Her probation officer is Dawn Hellwig. Another officer in the department, who is familiar with the case is Johanne Martinez. If you have given any donations to the offices of Phil Berg, you need to contact Dawn Hellwig and demand an answer. I need to know if there are any volunteers, who live in Santa Fe.

There is another issue. Did somebody arrange for her to be associated with Berg, to get him into serious legal trouble. Was this arranged to begin with? I discovered an interesting detail and need your help in getting to the bottom of this.

Liberi was first arrested in Rancho Cucomanga Ca, being involved in financial fraud schemes going back to 2001-20o2. When I looked at the name of the town, I remembered, that among 130 jobs for Barack Obama and Michelle Obama, there was one notation: Michelle Obama working for “Muslim World Today” in Rancho Cucomanga, CA. (dossier #1)
I remember being surprised,since Obamas claim to be Christian. As I’ve written in dossier #7, this current position was recently erased with 110 other positions and I demanded investigation in this destruction of evidence affair. Of Course Holder did nothing so far.

Another parallel. According to District attorney Secord, Liberi has changed her social security number several times and now she applied for yet another SS number.

If you recall in dossier #1, I provided 100 addresses around the country for Obama that are connected to 25 different social security numbers.

Liberi has changed her last name. Her name was Corvelle and Richardson. For some reason she and her husband suddenly took the name Liberi. According to the private investigator, the husband’s last name was Brent McCormick.

By the way, her social security number is a public knowledge, not only because of her conviction for grand theft and forgery, but also because of her bankruptcies. According to the private investigator, Mr. Sankey, there are 4 bankruptcy filings done by her: one -under Richardson, one under Corvelle and two under Liberi. This information is readily available to 5 billion people on the planet, who have access to Internet, which makes Berg’s case for injunction totally frivolous.

I need all the information, that can be found in regards to criminal convictions for her and her husband. I need to know all of their associations, particularly in Rancho Cucomanga CA.

There are Internet services, that can give you a printout of web sites, as they were a month ago or a year ago. These are crawlers, that scan the Internet. One of them is “Internet Access Wayback Machine”. There are other similar services. I need your help in getting info in both directions:

a. all of the names, addresses, social, associates, convictions, incarcerations for Liberi. Any and all info on her husband. You can see past recordings on the Wayback machine.

b. any and all info on those 100 addresses and 25 social security numbers for Obama and 130 job positions for Obamas . When did those appear in databases and when were those erased? Those addresses and ss numbers and job positions came from Lexis-Nexis, Choice Point, Jobs.com Intellius.

I was asked, How do they get those addresses? It is all coming from public records: non-profit organizations, their donations records, county recordings, real estate recordings, probate records of the deceased (do you remember that Madeline Dunham, Obama’s grandmother was a volunteer for the probate department of Oahu circuit court), disclosed salaries (if you recall, recently Washington DC FBI has raided offices of Vivek Kundra, Obama’s chief of computer security and arrested his assistant amidst allegations of creating bogus job positions and splitting salaries). We need to find the connections: who and when created those fraudulent units and who and when erased them.

I need help from patriots, who are in law inforcement, such as Police, Sheriff, FBI, Marshall, DA , Border Patrol, military police. Most importantly in CA, NM, PA, Il and DC.
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/

Anonymous said...

Andy Martin has claimed Berg is an Obama supporter months ago. http://www.pr-inside.com/the-strange-behavior-of-philadelphia-lawyer-r908429.htm Orly says the SS no.she released was in the public domain due to Liberi's bankruptcy filing.

Anonymous said...

5-11-09.. Orly hasn't backed down at all over Berg's lawsuit.But as expected,Ed Hale has canceled his big Wednesday show this week where all would be down and over with.In addotion to the disclaimer for content he put on his forum he now recotes it before every show.LOL!!!

Anonymous said...

Yesterday,Walter Fitzgerald mentioned that another military man is about to file a criminal complaint against Barry soon.He is making a You Tube video this week.

Anonymous said...

Update from maligned investigator-- I called “Muslim World Today” at their new address in Alta Loma. The editor is Mr. Zaidi, however when I asked to talk to him, the secretary told me that he is not available because he passed away. I asked to talk to the new editor, she said that for security reasons she cannot give me the name of the new editor. Due to the fact that the newspaper also goes by the name Pakistan today and based on her accent, I believe this paper is run by Pakistanis. So far I couldn’t get any info on that notation for Intellius Jobs.com about Michelle Obama. I believe, as with other papers, it was just a notation made for the purpose of a financial transaction. It must’ve appeared in some database of non-profit donations, this was picked up by the net crawlers of Intellius, and when smbd saw it in my dossier, it was erased. I really need help of somebody in law enforcement to go further. I just don’t have an access to the databases that they have. Is there anybody, who can help?In regards to Obamas, if you recall, they had some 100 addresses in National databases, he had 25 Social security numbers and they both had 130 job positions. Recently most of this info was erased from National databases, but we have a hard copy in Dossier#1.

One of the job descriptions was for Michelle Obama- with a newspaper “Muslim World Today” in Rancho Cucomanga, CA. I called the directory, there is no listing for this News Paper. They do have a large Muslim Community and a Muslim American Society. I tried to call them and inquire about the News Paper. The Phone number 909-945-5078 is currently disconnected. Do we have volunteers in that area?

In regards to Liberi she also has several social security numbers and several names. From around 2000 she lived in this small community of Rancho Cucomanga and it looks like she changed her name around that time. Aside from 8 year prison term, that she got last year, that was reduced to probation(how and why?) she has another active case, see above, where the charges include forgery and forgery of seal. She might be looking at additional prison term on those charges, if convicted at trial. Talking to the arresting officer and DA, I found out, that this woman sues everybody around her. She makes up charges and slanders people, hoping to intimidate and harass them and reduce her prison term. You can see among the charges one, where she filed against the county. I can understand, why she is coming up with all those slanderous charges against me and everybody around, she wants people quiet, but it is sad that Berg, an attorney, fell into a trap of a common criminal. I don’t get harassed, I don’t get intimidated, she cannot pull this garbage with me and I will get to the bottom of it. It seems to me that this woman was somehow planted to discredit Berg and the whole Obama’s illegibility for presidency litigation. We don’t need tainted evidence coming from her, we will win without any evidence prepared by her. There is sufficient evidence against Obama without her. I believe she is a diversion and was put in place to discredit the effort. I believe Phil Berg needs to distance himself from her, and cooperate in getting to the bottom of this matter before this issue becomes irreversible for him.
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/

Anonymous said...

Update on H1N1 from Reuters-- * 4,379 people infected with H1N1 flu in 29 countries

* Big increase in confirmed cases in United States

* First death reported in Costa Rica



ZURICH, May 10 (Reuters) - H1N1 flu has infected 4,379 people in 29 countries, the World Health Organisation (WHO) said on Sunday, increasing its count by almost a thousand in a day.

The WHO tally tends to lag national reports but is considered more definitive.

The U.N. agency said Mexico has reported 1,626 confirmed cases, up from 1,364 on Saturday, and repeated that 45 people have died there from the new flu strain that is a genetic mixture of swine, bird and human viruses.

The Mexican government has said the worst is over and eased restrictions on commercial and public activity in the country that has been at the epicentre of the outbreak.

The WHO's latest flu tally increased the number of confirmed infections in the United States to 2,254 from 1,639 reported on Saturday, while the number of reported deaths remained at two.

U.S. officials on Saturday said a man died from the new flu in Washington state last week, bringing the toll in the United States to three.

WHO increased the number of infections in Canada to 280, from 242, and repeated one person had died there.

It said one person had also died in Costa Rica, which had eight confirmed cases.

European countries with cases confirmed in WHO laboratories include Spain (93), Britain (39), Germany (11), Italy (9), France (12), Portugal (1), Ireland (1), Netherlands (3), Austria (1), Denmark (1), Sweden (1), Switzerland (1) and Poland (1).

The WHO also confirmed the following infections in the rest of the world: Israel (7), New Zealand (7), Brazil (6), Japan (4), Panama (3). South Korea (3), El Salvador (2), Hong Kong, China (1), Guatemala (1), Colombia (1) Argentina (1) and Australia (1).

Evidence that the disease, popularly known as swine flu, has taken hold in communities outside the Americas would prompt WHO Director-General Margaret Chan to declare a full pandemic.

Chan raised the global pandemic alert level last week to 5 out of 6 in response to the spread of H1N1 flu. Phase 5 means a pandemic is imminent.

The WHO also repeated its guidance that international travel should not be restricted as a result of the outbreak.

Anonymous said...

Texe speaks out against Jason Bermas' tirade for a caller bringing up the subject of Zionism.Regardless of the Marxist takeover taking place,there is a strong Zionist angle in the cultural marxism in America.But mentioning it gets one branded an antisemite.Which is why the ADL and SPLC is able to lobby for draconian Hate Crime Laws.--- Do The Jews Own Hollywood
And The Media?
By Texe Marrs
5-9-9

Do the Zionist Jews own Hollywood and the media? Are they using the media to mold and shape American opinion by constantly injecting Zionist propaganda and bias into news programs, movies, television shows, even children's cartoons and entertainment?

The answer is so blatantly "Yes!" that you wouldn't think these questions are even worth pursuing. But recently, the untoward comments of a patriot talk show host made me stop and rethink it. Are there people out there-even in the Patriot Movement-who really are that much in the dark, who deny Jewish influence in the media?

Recently, when a caller to a talk show on the Genesis Radio Network suggested that the Jews control the media, the host went wild. He raged on and on, playing the race card. He branded the surprised caller and others like him who are weary of Zionist influence "Nazis" and "anti-Semites." Angrily, he denied Jewish involvement in any conspiracies and ridiculed those who had the audacity to suggest that Jews run Hollywood or the media. Then, in a real fit of spewed venom, the talk show host demanded that the caller and all others who believe like him should go out and hang themselves to promote population reduction.

As if that wasn't hateful enough, the pro-Zionist host then stated that all the "Nazis and Anti-Semites" who opposed Zionism and the Jews should plug in an electric toaster, hold it to their naked bodies, jump into a bathtub filled with water, and have a party." In other words, kill themselves.

Quite a rampage by the supposedly "patriot" talk show host. And all because the poor caller had dared to propose undue Jewish influence over the media.

Hearing the actual taped broadcast of this unbelievable tirade by a pro-Zionist advocate confirmed my resolve to inform good folks once again of the truly dictatorial grip that Zionist Jews have on the media. The best way to do this is not to rage and spew venom, but simply to present the facts, to document the truth of Jewish control of the media.

What Do Knowledgeable Jews Say?

How about going to top Jews in the media themselves and see what they say? Take Joel Stein, for example, columnist for the Los Angeles Times newspaper and regular contributor to Time magazine. In his column in the LA Times (Dec. 19, 2008), Stein says that Americans who think the Jews do not control Hollywood and the media are just plain "dumb."

"Jews totally run Hollywood." Stein proudly admits. He then goes on to provide a long, long list of Hollywood/media chieftains-all Jews!-to prove his point. On his list: Fox News President Peter Chernin; Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey; Walt Disney CEO Robert Igor; Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton; Warner Brothers Chairman Barry Meyer; CBS CEO Leslie Moonves; MGM Chairman Harry Sloan; and NBC/Universal Studios CEO Jeff Zucker.

That's just the top brass at the studios. Then there are the actors and entertainers - predominantly Jews, from Barbra Streisand and Gwyneth Paltrow, from Adam Sandler to Ben Stiller...Jew, Jew and Jew again. As Stein wryly remarks, even the head of the Actors' Union, the Screen Actors Guild, Alan Rosenberg, is a Jew.

"The Jews are so dominant," writes Stein, "I had to scour the trades to come up with six Gentiles in high positions at entertainment companies." "But lo and behold," Stein says, "even one of that six, AMC President Charles Collier, turned out to be a Jew!"

"As a proud Jew," says Joel Stein, "I want America to know of our accomplishment. Yes, we control Hollywood."

ADL's Foxman Admits Jewish Control

Stein says he then called Abe Foxman, Chairman of the Jewish ADL, to ask him, why don't more Jews just come out and boast at this great accomplishment? Foxman responded by admitting that yes, it's true that most of the top execs "happen to be Jewish." In fact, Foxman told Stein, "all eight major film studios are run by men who happen to be Jewish."

Ben Stein (no relation to Joel), the well-known Jewish actor, economic commentator and writer, when asked "Do Jews run Hollywood?" stared blankly at the questioner, then retorted, "You bet they do-and what of it?" Shahar Ilan, writing in haaretz.com, the internet division of Israel's top daily newspaper, commented, "The Jews do control the American media. This is very clear, and claiming otherwise is an insult to common knowledge."

Neal Gabler, also a Jew and a noted media researcher, wrote an entire book outlining Jewish control of Hollywood. It was entitled, An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood. But to really see how the Jews, in their own publications and press, view the reality of Jewish control of the media, all one has to do is take a look at a recent issue of the Jewish Daily Forward, which featured an article entitled, "Billionaire Boychiks Battle for Media Empire."

Billionaire Jews Battle for Media

This fascinating, look-see article discussed how the Jews had for decades owned the media and now were competing; that is, vying, to buy one of America's most powerful media companies, Tribune Company, which owns 23 television stations, a baseball team, and many major newspapers, including the Chicago Tribune and the Los Angeles Times.

"However, it turns out," gloated the Jewish mag, "we'll have a Jew in charge of the (LA) Times, which was once one of old Los Angeles' most famous WASP (White Anglo Saxon Protestant) institutions. What a great day for old LA Jews"

The publication noted that among the Jewish billionaires ("boychiks") vying for the Tribune media empire is "Liberal, Jewish, media mogul David Geffen."

And who, pray tell, is the current owner of the Tribune Company? Why, that would be Jewish billionaire Sam Zell. Zell is a major donor to Israeli, Zionist and Jewish causes. His own rabbi proudly reports that Zell is "a committed Zionist, a generous supporter of Israel, and a member in good standing of the synagogue."

Asked who his own favorite newspaper columnists were, Zell quickly answered, "Charles Krauthammer, Thomas Friedman, and David Brooks." Surprise! The trio are all ardent Zionist whack-jobs who clamor over each other demanding the U.S. attack Iran, provide billions more in foreign aid to favored nation Israel, and so forth.

Local Newspapers Owned by Foreign Agents

So powerful is the Jewish control over the media that Nathanael Kapner, a rare Jew who converted to Christianity and now is adept at reporting these things, asserts that no longer can we trust our local daily newspaper. "Zionist Jews have taken over the 'local newspaper' in America," Kapner writes. Indeed he explains that there basically is no local newspaper anymore, because, "Most local newspapers are owned by companies controlled by Zionists whose offices are hundreds of miles away."

Kapner provides manifold evidence of Zionists' dominating control of the media at all levels. The Newhouse Empire of the Jewish brothers Samuel, Donald, and Theodore Newhouse, Kapner says, "illustrates the insatiable appetite for opinion control:"

"Today, the Newhouse Empire owns 40 local newspapers across the U.S.A. These include the Newark Star Ledger, the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the Portland Oregonian, and the St. Louis Globe-Democrat."

Then, there are the vast array of magazines run by the Jewish Newhouse family-including the New Yorker, Vogue, Golf Digest, Glamour, Gentleman's Quarterly (GQ), and the massively circulated newspaper insert, Parade magazine.

Jewish Media Spew Out Pro-Zionist Propaganda

The fact that Zionists control virtually every media outlet in America is no doubt why the American citizenry hears only one version of events in the Middle East-the pro-Jew, pro-Israeli side. This led Dr. Kevin MacDonald, professor at California State University, to write:

"In the contemporary world, organized American Jewish lobbying groups and deeply committed Jews in the media are behind the pro-Israel U.S. foreign policy that is leading to war against virtually the entire Arab world."

This Zionist bias and propaganda spin by the Jewish-owned American media is not new. As far back as 1978, the noted Jewish political writer Alfred Lillienthal, in his revealing book, The Zionist Connection, stated:

"The most effective component of Jewish connection is probably that of media control. It is well known that American opinion molders have long been largely influenced by a handful of powerful newspapers, including the New York Times, the Washington Post, and the St. Louis-Post Dispatch (All Jewish Families)."

To further illustrate the breadth of Jewish media control, we note that Jewish magnate Arthur Sulzberger's media empire today includes not only the New York Times (which, in Stalin's day, systematically covered up the genocidal crimes of Jewish commissars in Communist U.S.S.R), but also the Boston Globe, the Lexington Dispatch (NC), the Gainesville Sun (FL), the Ocala Star Banner (FL), the Tuscaloosa News (AL), the Spartansburg Herald Journal (SC), and the Santa Barbara News Press (CA). Each of the newspapers Lillienthal mentioned back in 1978, in turn, owned and still owns dozens of others. So tainted is the news because of this that almost every newspaper in America endorsed President George Bush's radically pro-Israel policies in the Middle East, including Israel's savage butchery of Lebanon and Palestine.

There can be no doubt. It is easy for us to document the massive dominance over the media by evil Jewish shills who are continually hostile to pure American interests while, everyday, unabashedly spewing out reams of misleading Zionist propaganda. Time magazine, Newsweek, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, FOX-and many, many more are all owned or run by Jews and operated solely to further the aims of the traitorous, anti-American, ever-growing Zionist World Empire.

All America is in the Grip of the Hidden, Red Iron Fist of Zionism

Of course, the media, even as important as it is to our culture, is only a bit piece of the whole that is now, regrettably, under the big thumbs of the Jewish Zionist elite. Our educational establishment, Wall Street, the banks, the Federal Reserve, our Congress, the White House (just consider Rahm Emanuel, the Zionist Israeli freak who is Obama's White House Chief of Staff), and our judiciary-each and every one is infiltrated by Zionist radicals who put Israel and their own "Chosen People" first, to the detriment of everything sacred to honest, God-fearing, hard-working Americans.

So, the next time you hear some ignorant rube on talk radio or elsewhere shoving the race card in your face and ranting and raving about "Nazis" and "anti-Semites" who "claim" the Jews control the media, why don't you just reach out and turn that radio dial to another place. And please, don't forget to also let the radio network and station manager know of your displeasure.

The fact is that the dishonest Zionist shills out there promoting Zionist lies, drivel, and nonsense truly deserve our contempt.

The Truth is Precious

As for Texe Marrs and Power of Prophecy, we have long pledged ourselves to telling you the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. And part of that truth, simply put, is this: That yes, absolutely, Zionist Jews do own and control Hollywood and the media. So beware of their lies and deceit. The truth is precious. Let us work together to protect and nurture it.

(Texe Marrs, Author and Researcher may be contacted at www.powerofprophecy.com)

Note-Bermas is Alex Jone's protege.Texe has known Alex his whole life.

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