Saturday, April 11, 2009

Open Thread for [More] Comments Not on the Topic of Other Posts

Original posting, 1/26 -- Comments that have taken some time to write have been attached to articles on other subjects, today. I appreciate comments, but am going to delete those new ones, so any discussion of the topics of articles may be unencumbered. If you would like to express some "open line" styled comments, please use this posting. If you wish to comment privately, please use the email address posted in the "About I.O." segment of the sidebar. Thank you. Looking for another way here, soon, for receiving private notes.

Update/Repost, Tuesday, 2/3 -- This commentary thread has become a largely well behaved set of concerns and complaints about the behavior of certain of those whom have become well known within the circles of Obama eligibility activists. I.O. has had very little to do, at this point, to moderate those posts and this speaks highly of the patriots who believe it important to log their concerns.

Today, sadly, it also becomes appropriate to link to a letter of warning of lawsuit, with a demand to cease and desist, by the attorney of one eligibility activist party, to another, regarding the purported libel of that latter party. Notice was emailed to I.O. by the former party, requesting that I post an adjoining note, which is included by me in the comments, below (February 3, 2009 6:46 AM). Making note of this is warranted, in this writer's opinion. Dwelling upon it is not suggested.

I did choose to dwell upon today's emails between Nancy and Hanen, which I am also copying into comments. Finding people who have found themselves in abusive situations and have not only "escaped," but have come out better, somehow -- refined by trial and enabled by forgiveness to truly overcome -- free to be gracious to all, and built-up in soul to bless others who can use a hand and a touch -- that is inspiring. And that is likely my final word, in this top posting.





Update/Repost, Saturday, 4/11 -- Woops, here's this post again! I've bumped this to the I.O. top because certain comments angel(s) have been continuing to post here, quite polite not to change the subject, elsewhere. So (a-hem) I am eager to have a look in, since February! How about you? Then, maybe on Marxist May Day, we should have a new "Open Thread" post, to celebrate the Obama achievement! -- and let anyone say what's on his mind, unselfconsciously. The Lord only knows what will break between now and then, though....



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Anonymous said...

Real ID -- http://www.ncsl.org/default.aspx?tabid=13577

Anonymous said...

Orly's sur-reple : http://www.scribd.com/doc/20508475/KEYES-v-OBAMA-78-opposition-surreply-opposition-to-motion-to-dismiss-re-MOTION-to-Dismiss-Case-AND-MEMORANDUM-OF-POINTS-AND-AUTHORITIES-IN-SUP It is 14 pages.She was to limit to ten pages.Might not matter.But it is another example of her not following the rules.

Anonymous said...

Kreep' latest Motion : KEYES v OBAMA - 79 - NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Sever PLAINTIFFS filed by PLAINTIFFS Markham Rob http://www.scribd.com/doc/20516291/KEYES-v-OBAMA-79-NOTICE-OF-MOTION-AND-MOTION-to-Sever-PLAINTIFFS-filed-by-PLAINTIFFS-Markham-Robinson-Wiley-S-Drake-Attachments-1-Declaratio

Anonymous said...

Systemic Failure Approaches
by Jim Willie, CB. Editor, Hat Trick Letter | October 1, 2009 excerpt: Its primary elements will be a failed US banking system (as in seizure) and a USTreasury Bond default (as in coerced restructure). Again, martial law and declaration of economic emergency will be the final solution. The prison camps will become debtor prisons and warehouses for illegals, maybe a processing plant for those who refuse virus vaccination. They are already constructed with over 200 ready for occupancy. Those in denial might become residents. They could also feature some dissidents, along with some writer analysts. Two years ago, my analysis regularly mentioned martial law and imposed order to handle the chaos from a disintegrated economy and insolvent dysfunctional banking system. Here we are in the present, when such forecasts do not sound so outrageous anymore. The Jackass has featured a string of seemingly outrageous forecasts that have come true. The US system is credit dependent, and credit will soon be cut off, in the next chapter of isolation. The Printing Pre$$ is a temporary solution, en route to a failed state. The US leaders and citizens do not learn from history. They defy history amidst delusions of omnipotent power. See the Weimar Republic, which has gone global! Even Gore Vidal expects recognition of the Untied States having adopted communism. Even the World Bank led by yet another Goldman Sachs pupil warns the Untied States not to assume the USDollar will remain the unchallenged global reserve currency. http://financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/willie/2009/1001.html#

Anonymous said...

Orly Taitz's view on Kreep's Motion : Willey Drake and Gary Kreep are at it again

Posted on | October 2, 2009 | No Comments
(ANx), DISCOVERY, MANADR
It was reported to me by an Attorney Larry Miller and a number of other parties that Willey Drake is again saying things that are absolutely not true
1. Willey Drake is spreading rumors that I was kicked of the legal team in Barnett et al v Obama, that Gary Kreep is the only attorney on the case.
2. Gary Kreep is sending heavy solicitations through the media, specifically WND and Newsmax, completely misrepresenting the case and presenting it as if he is the only attorney on the case.

3. Willey Drake claims that I no longer represent Alan Keyes – that is a lie.

In reality Gary Kreep became part of this case only recently through manipulations of Willey Drake and Markham Robinson. Please see the docket- I represent all of the plaintiffs 46 out of 48. Kreep represents only 2 – Drake and Robinson. Kreep recently filed a motion to severe the case, which I stipulate to (I agree to). I used this motion to simply pour dirt on me. Most of it is not true or misrepresentation of what really took place. For example he claimed that I couldn’t serve the case properly. This is nottrue. I served Obama as an individualal for his actions prior to elections, namely claiming to be eligible, while he wasn’t. US attorneys office stated that he was supposed to be served under different rule- meaning as a governmental official for something he did in office. This gave Obama an opportunity to get legal defense on our dime, at our expense. Judge Carter stated at the hearing on July 13ththat I should just serve the US attorneys for expediency or otherwise they will appeal and the case will be dragged. I agreed, but notbecause I did something wrong and didn’t serve Obama properly to begin with, but since at that moment, it was the only thing I could do. I still get numerous letters from citizens asking me, why i don’t file a motion to disqualifyUS attorneys office, why Obama isn’t paying for his own defense, since it has to do with something he did as an individualal before the election. Kreep twisted the matter and lied and tried to present it in a way, as if I couldn’t serve Obama.

There are numerous examples like that. Ii am pretty busy, but keep in mind one thing. Kreep ran solicitations this whole year telling people " I’ll fight for you, I’ll file law suits every time Obama signs a law or executive order. In reality he didn’t file one single law suit, absolute zero. He just joined me in prior case in state court and squeezed himself in this case. In the prior case he came up with the legal theory, that is detrimental to the plaintiffs, as he claimed that citizenship of the father is not important. He, also, left for HI for 12 days when we were supposed to be in court. It is important for me to keep the record straight.

Jim said...

Kerchner v Obama & Congress - DOC 40 Judge Simandle Response to Atty Apuzzo Letter of Inquiry http://www.scribd.com/doc/20547848/Kerchner-v-Obama-Congress-DOC-40-Judge-Simandle-Response-to-Atty-Apuzzo-Letter-of-Inquiry Planned delay until all ducks are in a row with Orly and the inquiries going on in Hawaii.Leo mentione a rversal of policy in the DOH today.But then gave an update on a radio show tonight of another odd move by the folks in Hawaii.All patter and misdirection.The truth will come out as was planned,but at the timing and discretion of the elites.They planned this Con.Crisis and are in control of it.

Anonymous said...

Taitz files motion seeking Recusal of Judge Land------- http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/taitz-files-motion-seeking-recusal-of-judge-land/ Can any thinking person not see what is going on here???? Berg...Taitz...Hale....Kreep...biased judges and blatant lies from other government officials???? It's a circus sideshow.If this were one-sided it would be different.But this is a dramtaic play taking place.All the prope stalling techniques employed until the final scene unfolds.

Anonymous said...

As mentioned here,the quickening process started in July.We are about to see things get chaotic between the middle of October and next month.It should be noted that the vague reference early on in this thread mentioning working with Leo should not be misconstrued as working in a legal or research partnership sense.There were some of is giving him the "bigger picture" as it were in comments and saw the influence in some of his posts and directions.That is with regards to m1,m2, and m3[aka a few other monikers here].That being said,he is taking the bait of the Illuminists with the Hawaii angle.There is no birth certificate in Hawaii,at least not a legitimate one.There is index data that will likley be proffered under the petitions for informaton.But if there were a real COLB there it would've seen the light of day months ago.Where Obama was actually born is irrelavant.He admitted his non-nbc status on the forged COLB online.But all this stalling and slow release of the truth was controlled.This latest saga with the DOH is not about things unraveling.Just wanted to point these things out.

Anonymous said...

Ironic how Leo exposed Arthur and it appears he will be the one to be bitten in the rump with the Chester Arthur Gambit in the whole Hawaii affair.I heard the show he was on last night and he says he belives in his heart Obama was born in Hawaii.He conceds he could be wron and the reason for this pursuit is to get to the nbc issue,but this sidetracking will do more damge than he knows.

Anonymous said...

Leo was on a radio show tonight with breaking news of another game played by the DOH.They are not “scrambling”.This is well orhestrated.Hawaii is the thesis of the hegelian dialectic in this con crisis and eligbility issue.Kenya is the antihesis.And Orly will work out the synthesis.Simandle replied to Apuzzo.He is stalling until the right time.This ties into the financial meltdown coming,that has been held back for over a year through manipulation.I feel sorry for Leo.He went down the rabbit hole and into the Abyss.This trail could be done by a lesser Atty,and Leo could be at the forefront of a more important battle.But that is his choice.As for Rod Class.The judge is awaiting an amended complaint listing violations of the Corporation and then will sign the default judgment.Then he heads to DC on Nov.6th.Couple in forced vaccs in next two months and you see where this is going. And yes, I concur with the statemets on Leo.This is m1 aka msge,and this is my last post here.Bigger fish to fry.I will advise others as I feel this pagan psychodram should be recorded in a few places on the net for people to refer to if the internet tays up after the chaos ensues.Whispering in ears as it were.Lol!I would like to say that Leo has made a wise decision with repect to focusing on the work.The rah rah sis boom bah cheerleading and praise and worship comments were disturbing.You see that at many blogs.They think they are a little group saving the world and showing adoration for their leader.That made me wince months ago.I saw a cult of personality buiding around him.Glad he stepped back.Because the whole secret identity thing he mentioned in one comment a few months ago was freaky.

Anonymous said...

Afirrmative.Here for setting down the endgame plan of the rulers of this evil world,and for concerned citizens to go over,Lord Willing,after the collapse takes place.Also for friends that have been given the link to see updates of current events and the analysis.Lastly,for Arlen to check out when curious as to how spitual thinkers are covering these trying times.Some of the views are a bit too much for some people to understand.Surely,we don;t have all the answers.The thing that can be said is that the world is not as it seems.

Anonymous said...

What every reader should know is that Obama had the backing of the real movers and shakers of this world.Not a little mob of marxists in Chicago......m2

Anonymous said...

It will be good for an education if my fellow americans read this thread after this all ends.Preferably done twice.Starting form the beginning.Then when in disbelif over the claims of this being a desifnated crisis with a correagraohed series of events,to read from the end and upwards.See this: Was U.S. Attorney General secretly in town to counsel Land? http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/was-u-s-attorney-general-secretly-in-town-to-counsel-land/

Anonymous said...

Poor Leo Donofrio is all confused.He is not only baffled at the DOH,but is getting his theories blown sky high by the up and coming wonderful blog called the post and email : Honolulu Advertiser’s Propaganda Piece of Nov. 9, 2008 http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/honolulu-advertisers-propaganda-piece-of-nov-8-2008/

Anonymous said...

NWO researchers knew this one was coming : First Order of Business for Post-Lisbon EU: Appoint War Criminal As President quote: Now that the EU has “won” by forcing the Irish public to vote on the Lisbon Treaty until they got it “right,” liberty-minded people the world over will have the uncomfortable experience of watching the expansion of this vast new tyrannical superstate headed by unaccountable bureaucrats. Of course, given that the EU has been frustrated in its attempts to undermine national sovereignty again and again and again when the people are actually given a chance to have their say, we can only hope that the entire EU enterprise has been so discredited now that the political opposition to this rising EU Federation will continue to rise.

The coming weeks and months will be the most critical for the creation of this pumped-up regional superpower

Anonymous said...

From Tim Alexander: To my readers: Please copy this article to as many sites and people as possible. It is important that people know just what is at stake in the coming war on Iran.

SCENARIOS

Now that the Iranian/Six Power talks have concluded with no breakthrough (Netanyahu will never accept the 'final' uranium refining being done in Russia as a breakthrough), we can expect an Israeli attack on Iran at any time. We need to consider what will happen next.

Scenario 1: The Israeli Air Force bombs the major Iranian nuclear sites. The destruction of the fully fueled nuclear reactor causes massive deaths. Iran does nothing. This is the pre-school level thinking scenario and believe it or not, it is the scenario that is most likely covered by the corporate owned mainstream news media. If you believe this scenario it is likely you should also believe in Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy.

Scenario 2: The Israeli Air Force bombs the major Iranian nuclear sites. Iran mines the Strait of Hormuz. It takes several weeks to several months to remove the advanced mines using the best mine sweeping technology available. The World's economy, already in a depression, goes into total collapse. The economic depression becomes far worse than the Great Depression of the 1930s. Early grade school level thinking.

Scenario 3: Same as number 2 above but Iran fires some missiles on Israel, most are shot down by Israeli and American air defense systems, however some hit their targets and several thousand Israeli civilians are injured and a few hundred killed. Middle school level thinking.

Scenario 4: The Israeli Air Force bombs the major Iranian nuclear sites. Iran mines the Strait of Hormuz. Iranian missiles and Syrian missiles and Hezbollah rockets and missiles rain down on Israel. After several days of back and forth missile and air attacks the UN Security Council establishes a truce. Thousands are killed in the attacks on Israel and many more in Syria, Lebanon and Iran (plus the large number killed by the destruction of the fully fueled nuclear power plant in Iran). The World's economy is toast from the cutting of the Strait of Hormuz but eventually a type of peace returns and the economy gets better. Congratulations you have reached high school level thinking. Still not realistic but better.

Anonymous said...

Scenario 5: The Israeli Air Force bombs the major Iranian nuclear sites using low yield nukes but claims that only conventional weapons were used. Deaths from the destruction of the nuclear sites, including the fully fueled nuclear power plant, run into the millions. Nuclear fallout spreads throughout the Middle East and SW/SE Asia and eventually over the Northern Hemisphere. Iran responds with a full MAD (mutually assured destruction) counter-force attack. Iranian missiles with radiological warheads, chemical warheads, advanced conventional warheads (fuel air explosive warheads with yields in the tactical nuke range), and some conventional warheads. Syrian missiles, equipped with similar warheads, also fly towards Israel. The Hezbollah missile force, which is controlled by Iranian and Syrian officers, cuts loose with everything it has. This amounts to over 50,000 rockets and guided missiles, everything from large numbers of unguided Katyusha 122 mm artillery rockets with a 19 mile/30 km range and capable of delivering approximately 66 pounds/30 kg of warhead to longer range guided missiles that can and do hit all of Israel. Many of the 50,000+ Katyushas have simple 'dumb' conventional warheads but others, and most of the larger guided missiles, use chemical, or radiological ('dirty bombs'), or FAE warheads and cause massive damage as a all-out effort to fire as many as possible, in as short of time as possible, is made. The Syrians and Iranians fire a range of medium range guided missiles, mostly with advanced conventional/NBC (nuclear [radiological]/biological/chemical) warheads. The Iranians release the large Advanced Biological Warfare arsenal, that they have spent most of twenty years building up (first using former Soviet biowar scientists to jump-start their entry into the 'poor man's nuke' genetically engineered biowar virus 'game'), into Israel, select Arab nations, the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy and certain other EU/NATO nations. The 50+ different super-killer viruses are spread using 'sleeper agents' and use the population as vectors to spread the advanced biowar viruses. Total numbers killed in the target nations run into several hundred million. The Israelis use neutron bombs (atomic bombs with a low blast effect but high short term radiation effect) on a large area of Lebanon and Palestine in an effort to 'kill' the launch sites and personal involved in the launches. The Israelis see most of their civilian population killed or seriously injured. Large areas of Israel are contaminated with long-term radiation by the radiological warheads of its enemies. Israel, using a combination of aircraft released weapons, ground-to-ground guided missiles, and sub lunched cruise missiles showers Iran and Syria with nuclear warheads from smaller yield weapons to high yield Hydrogen bombs. Most Iranian and Syrian cities are totally destroyed with too few people left to bury the dead. Nuclear fallout spreads throughout the world, especially in the Northern Hemisphere. The Advanced Biological Warfare viruses continue to spread throughout the world, although the most stringent quarantine measures are put into place including total lock-downs of most cities and the issuance of RFID chips to buy or sell anything (especially food and medicine) and to pass military checkpoints (total martial law throughout most of the world).

Anonymous said...

Scenario 6: Same as the above but Illumunati agents and Illumunati controlled governments arrange massive 'terrorist' strikes/bombings in India and Pakistan and China and in the Georgia area. A major sea incident takes place near Georgia with Russian naval forces. India and Pakistan and China engage in a major nuclear war destroying over a billion people's lives and spreading truly massive amounts of nuclear fallout across the land. Russia and China release a barrage of ICBMs and SLBMs at what is left of Israel destroying all life there and in much of the Middle East. America and NATO and Russia and China engage in limited nuclear war when suddenly the return of Jesus Christ puts an end to what would be total destruction for the human race. http://europebusines.blogspot.com/2009/10/iran-war-scenarios_03.html

Anonymous said...

OPEN LETTER TO MICHAEL STEELE AND THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE http://sanantonioteaparty.org/655/open-letter-to-the-republican-party/

Anonymous said...

Marine Sergeant Warren Bonesteel - Researcher: Police State America, Additional References and Resources http://jaghunters.blogspot.com/2009/10/marine-sergeant-warren-bonesteel.html#

Jim said...

Donofrio's latest on Okubo: http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/okubo-caught-again-admits-providing-false-information-regarding-doh-maintenance-of-divorce-records/ Leo,if you ever peruse this open thread,you should know that the main contributors have respect for you.Furthermore,it was a good sign of Christian humility to enforce a new comment policy.There has been concern over the sheeple mentality of many people on your blog and others that bordered on idolatry.You know,thinking that one man will save the nation and all that nonsense.Anyway,you have our support and respect.

Jim said...

Editorial: Oct. 5, 2009 — Now Obama’s Goose is double-cooked-- http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/04/editorial-oct-5-2009-%e2%80%94-now-obamas-goose-is-double-cooked/ Remember kids we have two scenarios to factor in the equation unitl tomorrow,which is why I pen this prior to the Barnett decision by Carter on the MTD.Either Barry goes down or he is world president.If Carter dismisses the MTD he has upheld the Corp Con and we have time to battle the beast.If he upholds the MTD and the case is shot,we have some time,but either way we have to be concerned of a false flag even in the next 6 weeks,as the mid-Oct to mid-Nov timetable has been laid out for us in spades as to the Endgame.Sadly,the best thing for us is if this case is dismissed.Because if it isn't,either the judge is playing a deadly game with us or he needs our prayers for bucking the elites,and the Administrative State,for he truly lacks subject matter jurisdiction to take this case on.AS readers know,some of us here believe this has been planned all along with the celeb lawyers and the final outcome is a predetermined one.

Jim said...

Leo is a good investigator and atty,but still believes the officials in Hawaii would not dare lie about Obmaa being born in Hawaii,and believes the whoe official story.He will learn the truth the hard way.But at least he did mention "Obama operatives" without naming names in hos recent intervoew on The Liberty Pole.He knows Berg,Taitz,and Kreep,and possibly Martin are NWO shills.Apuzzo is legitimate,and his case will be dismissed unless we are thrown for aloop this upcoming week with his case and the Barnett case.Time will tell.

Jim said...

One definite thing to be noted is that an honest QW case as Leo suggests is possible is never going to take place.

Arlen Williams said...

S'pose I should go back to where I left off and skim through this thread, eh?

I have switched I.O. comments so that a log-in is necessary. That's basically to discourage cranks and Obotic flamers.

Kay, I didn't quite get that Leo D. was accusing all Hawaiian officials of being honest. He cited one who was apparently above board in that person's response to a query.

Jim said...

The internet is abuzz with the Barnett case today.Carter didn't rule on the MTD but there is a flurry od specualtion on the case going forward.It is possible,but that is not someting that people should be headlining as fact,as is being doen by the Post and Email blog and elsewhere.Leo is taking heavy blows across the blogosphere for saying Carter lacks subject The essays above focus more on the wholematter jurisdiction.Well.he is right as this open thread has been right more often than not,even its hypothetical scenarios put forth for food for thought.Jim has expained the Chester Arthur gambit,and I will relay it here.It is simply that most people these days are mind controlled by propaganda,and are going to believe the offial story when this is all said and done.It makes no different if a birth certificate surfaces or not.Obama will win by virtue of appeals or by proving his eligbility in one or another to the people that do not understand our Constitution,law,or history.That is the Chester Arthur Gambit that will be playes on the world.That is of course if this all doesn't fade away due to a false flag event or real crisis.The whole game was to dealy the problem until martial law takes place.It has worked.If you read the above posts you will see that they deal more with the overall deception than with any definitive scenario on how this eligbilty issue will be resolved or finalioed.

Jim said...

Arlen,I understand.Alot of Marxists here lately.You don't have time to ferret out vulgar posts.Take care.!

Jim said...

Arlen,we did mention to Leo that if he took this as a QW or lawsuit against Barry or the Corp to the Superior Court in DC as a private Atty Gen it would be feasible.Again,we are not a part of his team.Mainly,Jim comments over there in private.We hope some of this type of deeper information registers with him.Class is going to DC on Nov.6th.

Jim said...

Carter does not have subject matter jurisdiction to hear a Quo Warannto case.And he knows it all too well.The default last July in that lawsuit spelled out the plan for us with regards to this con crisis.Jim explained it to Leo.You can ask Leo about all this going on with the DOJ and Carter's strange moves.We all know about Orly.She is not just incompetent.She is playing a role.There should be something on this over at Leo's blog by messenger later,but those comments are usually not meant to be public.I do know that Leo knows more than he share on his blog and on radio interviews.Not sure if some of our material is a little too esoteric for him,but he does get most of it,as we see shifts in his writings at opportune times.Hope we have helped people across the web fighting this battle to comprehen the bigger picture.I'm signing off for the night.God Bless Arlen and any readers here that are real truthseeekers.

Jim said...

Arlen.,no,I was referring to his pollyanna view of most politicians and officials being honest.Hey,whatever floats his boat.Lol!We do have to give people the benefit of the doubt.But clearly,most official in government are corrupt these days.It is silly not to see and accpet that sad fact of reality.Glad,he is on Rense tomorrow.Rense is big time in the alt. media.Real big time!!!

Jim said...

Very good sign that Leo is using the word : "administrative" and the phrase :"Administratice state" for we are in an Admiistrative State.It is one in which we no longer have a separation of powers.Those lines were blurred a long time ago.He might not get that one yet,but he does know codes and statutes,which is to the chagrin of many bloggers that are upset that he play fair in pointing themm out.People,the DOJ and judge Carter know these things.The DOJ didn't cite case law or precedent on Quo Warranto because they are playing a part in what my compatriot calls "" a pagan psychodram" or a play.A reality drama that is not a game to us,but is to the globalist cabal.

Jim said...

And yes,that new blog called "The Post & Email is suspect,and has veered towards a propaganda mode.Scary contemplation,but it is spewing some extremely erroneous information the past few days.

Jim said...

By the way,the QW has nothing to do with eligbility.That is a common misnomer all over the place.It is about facing off with an office holder and asking"By what authority do you hold or claim this position and office?".Go over to TRSOL blog and read one of our commentaries by Pragmatic Dog for more.

Jim said...

As mentioned here dozens of times.as poll numbers drop,the world will embrace Obama all the more in our Orwellian world.He just won the Nobel peace prize.Please go over this thread to see where this is all going.

Jim said...

People get upset and live in denial when told that we have passed the point of no return.A couple intersting things took place in the last couple of days.One was that,as mentioned here,the Charlton blog is damge control for the elites.Leo cracked wise on that one.The second thing is that it was mentioned around the blogosphere and here that Carter was playing a role for the elites.It was mentioned to Charlton that Carter might be a mason and that should be explored.The next day he had a puff piece on Carter as a patriot and heroic serviceman.Gee.it all becomes clearer and clearer when they show their true colors.He did do a good job for a few weeks,and credit was goven to him.But he exposed himself the past week.He is being defended by fools as Orly and other shills are but a few people will always learn the truth before the kill.

Jim said...

Hillary Clinton is now playing her part towards the end with commentary on the aliases and adoption.The 52 year age thing is not a fluke from a month ago.Jim calls this final round : 52 Pickup and Alias-DEnial which I think will be the title of another essay.Arlen,there was no point in commenting on the last two posts.The questions asked already had been answered here months ago.What was once specualtion has now--for the most part-- come to pass.Leo isn't going to get anything of import from Hawaii.None of the celeb lawyers will resolve the problem.The delaying tactic worked,and if the crap doesn't hit the fan in the next six weeks or so,it will play out in California,or elsewhere with Orly.This had to be done in DC and months ago.It has to do with the mass mind controll of humanity.The awakening masses do not know their enemy and we are out of time.This is not an Obama-Pelosi-Soros Marxist insurrection.This is the Illuminati Endgame.The focus on those pawns is sublime misdirection and a waste of time.That's why Beck and a few other NWO shills are exposing that stufff.Plus,the truth must be revealed to the sheep before the slaughter,so even better information will come from these shills in the coming months.

Jim said...

No time to go back and see if Leo or others have commented on his position on Charlton,so here it is-- in part : [ed. My input is that I do not have any faith in you - Mr. John Charlton - or your publication the Post and Email. I suspect your blog's motivation for existing is directly opposite to the intention of my blog.
As of today, October 9, 2009 you are permanently banned from commenting at this blog. You have the sole honor of that ban to yourself. No other person or journal has earned this distinction. As far as I am concerned, you no longer even exist in the blogosphere.
I do not trust you and I find your attempt to jump from journalist to lawyer arrogant, suspicious and very sad. I will not grace your Seussian Hooplah with another glance. I encourage my readers to ignore your dangerously misleading legal analysis.
No future links to your blog will be posted here. All prior links will remain although this statement will be added as an update. I will not attempt to revise history and erase my prior - very mistaken - support of your blog.
Readers, there appears to be a very well coordinated attempt in the blogosphere to control damage which my recent reports and legal analysis have generated in opposition to the official Hawaii DoH story........] link:
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/uipa-request-5-from-leo-c-donofrio/#comment-14255

Jim said...

Orly Taitz wa sanctioned $20K by judge Land in a 48 page court report.Too bad this didn't happen months ago,it would be worth the effort to explain the game.She desrerves it,,but Land showed his treason as well.The views on Charlton are on target.Although Leo said he wasn't reading his work,it is clear he has from recent comments.It is also clear that Leo knows he is getting nowhere with the DOH or any other agency in Hawaii.Yes,corruption will be exposed but information will not be brought out in the open unless it is planned that way.He doesn't accept that we can go to the Superior [not Supreme or District] Court in DC for justice,which is truly ouronly shot at justice.There are always wild cards.The elites could throw Obama to the wolves,but it is highly improbable after the events of the past three weeks.

Jim said...

Clinton signed an EO in the 1990s to pave the way for Obama to sign away our sovereignty in Copenhagen in December.The debate over illegality and constiutionality is academic at this juncture.We expect a amjor upheaval in the world in the coming weeks. p.s. Mario and Charles,we haven't gone over your case in detail here simply because it is a rock solid case and there is no need to keep abreast of it as it will never see the light of day.Other than Leo's efforts we saw your case as the best one if we really were on a level playing field with the federal beast.But the irony in the APA Act is that it is the opposite of what they claim.Instead of openness and an avenue for a redress of grievances for the common folks,it is actually a tyrannical system that admits it does not have to offer a remedy for the people.It just has to publish the abominal statutes in the Federal Register,and if not opposed in tendays,the people are thus shackled.The Congress issues laws or statutes at large,but the whole byzantine agency system has set up the police state for them under the color of law,thereby giving them a pass at being held accountable to the people.The talk about voting them out will never happen.It has been rigged for over a half a century.As for POTUS,that goes back even further.The facade of free elections were feasible assumptions when we had paper ballots.But the bottom line is that all presidents had elite bloodline lineage and the greater the roots,the bigger the chance they were "selected" and "voted" into office by the people.

Jim said...

Alot happened in the past two weeks.I would call it a silent upheaval.The Ukrainian Plague;IMF sale of tons of gold to India;flurry of one world government proclamations from world leaders including the UN Sec Gen and other world leaders;emgency health declarations in two countries,not to mention the one by Obama a month ago that is being downplayed in the media;bankruptcies of huge financial lenbders also being underreported in the mainsteam media;and a some natural disasters that are breathtaking going on in the world.More terrorist drills are going on and pandemic drills that simply do not get media coverage.Lindsey Williams taliking about this being dragged out for 2 years is laughable.He was fed disinformation.We also see the Chester Arthur gambit--as mentioned here- being played out and Donofrio is falling for it...actually thinking it is a good thing for some future litigation.

Jim said...

Refer to the comments by Lee in the comments section of the following article : http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/11/14/kerchner-v-obama-appeal-november-14-2009-update-charles-kerchner-mario-apuzzo-u-s-3rd-circuit-court-of-appeals-philadelphia-pa-obama-not-natural-born-citizen/ I would only ad this: Cap & Trade;;;;;; DONE DEAL .... Hate Crimes;;;;; DONE DEAL..... Health CAre;;;;;; soon to be a DONE DEAL !!!

Jim said...

Charlton over at The Post & Email is doing a good job.All of us here think so.So,John if you stop by please don't be offended by the red flag comment on you from some months ago.Pleas listen to Greg Evensen on Dec.3rd,2009 show of QFiles.Go to Survie2Thrive archives and listen -- http://www.stevequayle.com/index1.html

Arlen Williams said...

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