Some have recently complained about Plains Radio's Ed Hale, here and elsewhere. In my "Final Update" to the initial posting of the divorce decree story, I complained a bit too, but no one needs to cast a stone at Mr. Hale. He can become exhuberant. My advise: figure that in; he does, so should we. As I mentioned, he has never expressed full confidence that the divorce decree indicated a Kenyan birth for BHO II. I.O. noted one element of discrepancy between 1/30 and 1/31, as to how Mr. Hale may have heard about "Kenyan," or not. Let's call it an example of what can happen in the "telephone game" and move on.
Alarmism is a negatively regarded trait. But, when something is both alarming and critically important, what better -ism to practice? Maybe we should call Ed Hale's pitching of his eventually gaining copies of the Barack I / Stanley Ann divorce decree alertism. He sounded the alert and I, Arlen Williams, gladly confess to alertism, in shouting the news onward.
In doing so, I also pointed out that Obama is not a natural born Citizen in the first place, by means of inheritance of his father's Kenyan/U.K. citizenship, wherever he was born. Constitutionally disqualified to ever become U.S. President is literally, legally, and "naturally" how BHO II was "born." Specifically for a president, no non-U.S. jurisdictions are allowed, or U.S. citizenship would not be natural from birth (i.e., originally and purely self-evident) and instead, would require the further action of eliminating one citizenship or the other. Furthermore, competing allegiance is specifcally what the Constitution intended to prevent, for a Commander in Chief, in Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5. As has been mentioned in the comments attached to I.O's initial post of the story, this document might just refer to BHO II's citizenship, even if it does not name his nation of birth. We will see.
In the fable, "The Boy who Cried Wolf," who was eventually to blame, for the havoc wrought by the wolf? The boy? He actually did his duty, albeit imperfectly. The farmer was the one who should have continued to pay attention. So, let us do a yeoman's job of paying attention to any and all significant aspects of Barack Obama's ineligibility for the presidency and his potential fraud -- and spread the news -- now!
The following explains further, how Plains Radio is gaining these papers. It was written last night by a forum poster whom I have read previously. I have no reason to doubt he is who he says he is. It adds details confirming why we should pay serious attention to this revelation.
I.O. expects the papers to be revealed as Hale describes, to be dealt with fairly, with freestyle communication, and perhaps with further speculations, tonight. I strongly appreciate what Ed Hale is doing. As posted prior, this is poetic justice for Barack Obama, whatever it does or does not show about his childhood citizenship. The road to his own U.S. Springboard-Senate career was paved with the divorce paper scandals of a Democratic primary frontrunner and a strong GOP opponent. This forthcoming divorce decree is highly newsworthy, about our affirmative media action beneficiary, despite the marxstream media not being the ones to show it to us.
If you were listening on the Plains Radio around 7:45 Wed evening (last night), I was the guy who called in from Texas. Let me assure you that the 1964 divorce decree from Hawaii is NOT a hoax — it does exist.With info that Ed gave me on Tuesday night off the air, I coordinated to have the package pulled at the ramp in Honolulu, placed into a Fed-Ex Next-Day envelope by a person at the terminal to get Ed the next day for last night's show. It was originally scheduled for Two-Day Delivery for some reason — I think either by the PI or as as standard procedure of the Hawaii Courts. However, we WERE able to change the package to Next Day (afternoon) Delivery.
It arrived at LAX on time, shortly after midnight. HOWEVER, we hit a snag — the aircraft broke for approx 4 hours, apparently awaiting a part. The 747 finally took off at 6:47 am Wednesday, bound for Memphis, FedEx’s main hub.
As the morning passed, we began to realize that the package would not get to Ed's local FedEx hub, and then out on a delivery truck to get to him. We tried to transfer it to another location to be picked up at that FedEx depot, to scan it for Wed's show. However, we couldn't pull it off in time to make a departure on Wed afternoon.
Ed will have it Friday at a changed location. Arrangements have been made — it's very safe.
Additionally, I personally spoke with the PI in Hawaii myself Wednesday morning. Let me pass on what I can relay at this time:
Ed Hale has more information tht he will relay on the Lion's Den on Friday night on Plains Radio.
- as I understand, because the decree was Certified, it came straight from the Court House to Ed; the PI did not have the opportunity to copy or fax it. (If you've ever ordered an old deed or lien that has to be copied from archived records or microfiche, it's much the same — it's mailed directly to the requester ...)
- The PI did seem to have looked at the Digest version of the Divorce Decree, not the full version Ed is getting. His words to me, was “it's very interesting”
- The PI did not know if the document indicated Obama Jr's place of birth. However, in the early 60s in Hawaii, the place of birth oftentimes does appear in the notes.
- He told me also that the divorce decree was VERY hard to find and not readily searchable — not just a $30 fee at the counter. Significant research had to be conducted. It seems to have been hidden, possibly by Ann Dunham in her youth. (IMO, if it HAD been found already, Berg would have put it on his site along with other docs he's posted: http://www.obamacrimes.info/justthefacts.html. This is NEW documentation)
- The PI indicated that there's evidence that Ann used at least one alias tied to this. It's common knowledge that she used many names (Dunham, Soetoro, Sutoro, and variations thereof).
- There are other copies of the Divorce Decree going other places — the one going to Ed is NOT the only copy! There are back-ups going to other parties.
Alan Keyes is slated to be on with Ed.
Some, in one forum or another, have mentioned problems that Hale had been involved with, in a previous and annoying set of events and non-events about an alleged Kenyan birth certificate, Philip Berg, and African Press International. There are numerous sides to that story. I may or may not deal with that in the comments for this post. From what I gain, Ed may also deal with that, in this evening's broadcast.
I.O. intends to post about this matter again, today or tonight, after the divorce decree is revealed. Meanwhile, many of us will be checking in to PlainsRadio.com and rightly so.
22 comments:
Well its now the 2nd of January, 2009, where is this magical proof? I went the the web site and its under a "password"? Really, how old are all of you? Are you all 5 and you need the secret password to get into the "club"? Really mature!!
SLM, read.
I will patiently await this news, as with the other patriots. However, I am perplexed why they would announce this delivery process well before receipt of the document. What I am worried about is the Obama cronies, and there are many of them, powerful and cunning, who may find some way to intercept the Fedex delivery. It seems awfully fishy, that FEdex delivers packages all over the world, and the ONE plane that this document is to go on, has a malfunction? How do we know that Obama got news of this delivery, had it intercepted, and replaced it with a forged document?
More conspiracy theory? After finding all that Obama is capable of, I would not put anything past this piece of trash. I would have preferred that you kept everything hush until the document was safely in Ed Hale's hands. I mean, really, why publicize this entire process, you are just setting it up for sabotage?
Thank you for updating us. I'll check in later for more updates. Please post the link to listen to the radio broadcast again.
It's imbedded in the article, but:
http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/2442810129
...or if that does not work, you can just click into and through:
http://www.plainsradio.com
I agree re: full disclosure of fedex route. Why would anyone do that? This makes it sound like another API fiasco... something always happenned that prevented them revealing their "secret" docucments... at the end--- well we all know how it turned out.
One can only hope there are duplicate copies sent and that they were sent using different methods not revealed to the world
All we can do is wait for publication of the divorce papers. I believe in EVIDENCE. Hearsay is one thing, we need to have a pdf file of the actually document. Then we can analyze further.
But if it states that the child was born in Kenya, it would not surprise me that the U.S. has just elected an ILLEGAL ALIEN as POTUS. Man this makes black folks really look bad. You mean to tell me that there was no other black/biracial natural born citizen that they could have groomed at Harvard University to be elected POTUS?
Sen. Ted Kennedy should be ashamed of himself to make a mockery of Bobby Kennedy's prediction in 1968.
Maybe I'm missing something here, but this link was provided today at another site http://decalogosintl.org/documents/Soetoro_Divorce.pdf
What am I missing here? Isn't this the paperwork you are referring too? If not, what is it?
If it went straight from the court house to Ed without copies being made, how did it get sent to others?????????
It is the Obama divorce not the Soetoro one.
@ anonymus January 2, 2009 11:39 AM
I totally agree!
This is just downright stupid!
Of course they can get into the FedEx machine, and change the papers.
How could they announce this, and on top of it also announce the carrier?
I was so disappointed, when I heard that on PlainsRadio!
"Ed Hale has more information tht he will relay on the Lion's Den on Friday night on Plains Radio."
"Alan Keyes is slated to be on with Ed."
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I wasn't sure if you meant Alan Keyes on tonight or on future show.
Thanks!
Anon's concerned about interception: Let's hope BHO II doesn't have quite that much control... quite... yet!
Unless the men in black are on his side... ;-)
Mr. Williams, plainsradio.com has a pdf. file of the divorse papers of Stanly Ann Dunham and Lolo Soetoro. Are those the papers that we've been waiting for? Where are the divorse papers for Stanly Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr.? And I must say that I agree with Anonymous who posted at 11:39 AM. Isn't it rather unwise to go announcing the findings of the PI before he returns with the evidence? I believe that the Obama machine is a dangerous one, and a lack of prudence could endanger not only our cause, but also the life of the PI.
Anyway, thank you so much for what you are doing here with I.O. I am glad to see that there are some Americans left who care about the constitution!
~P.H.
it would appear, the Documents are in Ed Hales hands. He has posted them on his site, and yes they are password protected,.
tonight, he will remove the password for all to see. 8pm central time, I believe he said.
and it is the Barack Sr divorce from Ann Dunham, not the soetoro divorce papers we will be looking at.
Papaw
For those who are confused, there are two divorce papers. As you will recall, Stanley Durnham married two people:
Barack Obama I (Kenyan National)
Lolo Soetoro (Indonesian Citizen)
What is on plainsradio.com is a copy of the divorce papers for Lolo Soetoro and Stanley Durnham.
In that document, it states that there was two children. The relevant part that relates to Obama is that there was one who is a full time student treated as a dependent for IRS tax return purposes.
The one that Ed Hale is receiving is the divorce papers related to Obama I and Stanley Durnham. This will give us info on whether or not Obama was born in the U.S. or in Kenya as has been alleged.
Is this clearer now for you and Obamaots?
as I understand, because the decree was Certified, it came straight from the Court House to Ed; the PI did not have the opportunity to copy or fax it. (If you've ever ordered an old deed or lien that has to be copied from archived records or microfiche, it's much the same — it's mailed directly to the requester ...)
I do not understand how the copies were made if the PI didn't make them. I do not understand how others people had the same info mailed to them if copies were not made by the PI. Was this same info sent to the other recipients directly from the courthouse like Ed's was? How was that coordinated? I want BHO busted just much as anybody but "delivery" senerio is not adding up for me. What am I missing?
On the last page of the documents currently available at plainradio.com it has the names of the 2 children, neither of them are our future president of the USA.
This is just another chicken with no legs running around.
As much as I would like to see this ended no matter how it ends....This looks just like another one of those things that turn out to be duping on people who are trusting these people to give the correct information.
Let's face it...if there was any truth to it...McCain would be our president elect and he would have been the first one to jump on it.
It's 9:18 - the show is on the papers are up. Unless I am blind it does not say anything about the location of Obama's birth. It says that his parents were married in Hawaii and last lived together as man and wife in Hawaii. Where is this smoking gun?
"Where is this smoking gun?"
Nothing more than maybe the squelching of the innuendos of other fathers (at least legally) for Obama - American born fathers - which would take away the dual citizenship complaint.
The "smoking gun" would occur if there really is an attainable "port of entry" birth certificate which, as enthusiastically assumed by Ed, shows the Kenyan birth of Obama. There are still only a lot of assumptions about the still hidden birth certificates!
Re. Anonymous said...
This is just another chicken with no legs running around.
As much as I would like to see this ended no matter how it ends....This looks just like another one of those things that turn out to be duping on people who are trusting these people to give the correct information.
Let's face it...if there was any truth to it...McCain would be our president elect and he would have been the first one to jump on it.
January 2, 2009 7:13 PM
John McCain inoculated Obama, by gaining the GOP and bi-partisan support for his own fictitious presidential candidacy. He was born, not in American territory, but in a Panamanian hospital in Colon, Republic of Panama.
The Democrats were quite eager to pass a (meaningless) Senate resolution dubbing him a "natural born citizen." Wrong.
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