Stephen Pidgeon Interviewed, Tonight: Taking Notes Here

From what I see, Steven Pidgon's first live interview is occuring tonight, on the blogtalkradio program, "Fan the Fire," 8pm ET,,,5pm PT.

Pidgeon is expected to tell the story of his multiple close encounters of the first kind with law enforcement officers and what he has alleged to be Department of Homeland Security personnel, this last Wednesday, 3/25. Scuttlebutt has it, he believes himself (and possibly, his associated Obama eligibility challengers) to have been targeted in a practice exercise in surveillance and intimidation. Mr. Pidgeon is arranging a "national grand jury," for the purpose of shedding light upon Barack Obama's many cover-ups, including his actual birth certificate, documentation of his Indonesian citizenship, college records, passport records, etc., proceedings to be initiated soon.

See Wednesday and Thursday's I.O. article, "Obama Eligibility Challenger, 'Stephen Pidgeon in imminent danger of arrest by Homeland Security,' Says the Email -- Updated."



Notes about the broadcast will follow, here, as the evening goes on:

Three black SUV's with six men in camo, plus police cars, at the bottom of the hill; a county sheriff car, an Everett Police Department car... all on the way to the office. That is what Mr. Pidgeon and his associate, Vince, found. Also, on the way to lunch, poilce cars -- and, a police car on the way in, siren and lights a goin', -- a plainclothes police officer coming into the lunchtime restaurant, "noticeably disturbed" that he, according to Pidgeon lost them. The further the day goes, the more the police cars, evidently involved in a training program.

Stephen also mentions numerous concerns, expressed about the authoritarian Marxofascist plotting being dealt out of Washington and the U.N. They do a good rundown, Pidgeon linking the current events to the works of Bertrand Russell.

The topics and reported instances of Obama's globalist, Marxofascist authoritarianism fly at such a pace that it would be difficult to log them here. Many of them have been dealt with in the SentRad.com blog. Pidgeon ties Obama's economics to Mugabe's in Zimbabwe and refers to Alinsky and Cloward-Piven; nice compilation.

Pidgeon also refers to the research of Philip Berg, postulating a Kenyan birth for BHO II. He also spells out the rosy scenario, of the SCOTUS overturning the entire election process and declaring the executive actions of Obama (Soetoro?) null and void. While Pidgeon is still planning a "national grand jury," one in Georgia has already taken action, a group associated with Orly Taitz.

I called in, but did not get a chance to ask my questions:

Mr. Pidgeon, what did you do with the $10,000 raised for you by numerous donors, back at the turn of the year? You also gained time critical information, at that time, for the immediate investigation you promised. What did you do with that information? You have promised a report of results and given deadlines which have passed. The only thing I heard tonight as coming from your research is that there was a male student named Obama in Moscow, around 1990, and the picture associated with a newspaper story about him appeared not to be Barack Obama.

Is that your most important finding, Stephen?

I.O. always hopes to find good news.

Attorney, Mario Apuzzo on MommaE & the Radio Rebels

This is a re-post from the ...Ad for Obama Records blog. I listened to this broadcast, last weekend and join them in suggesting it. I.O. also suggests we find out more about Mario Apuzzo and his eligibility action, Kerchner v. Obama (also logged in TRSoL and documented here). Lead plaintiff, Charles Kerchner is also on the program. Let us learn more about Mr. Kerchner, too. I.O's blessings to all who stand up for the necessity of constitutional integrity.

The initial interview is with Stephen Pidgeon, attorney for the Broe v Reed eligibility case, apparently stalled at this moment, after being denied by the Washington state Supreme Court. Mr. Pidgeon has important announcements about the evils of proposed "hate crimes" legislation.

Momma E and the Radio Rebels talks to Attorney Mario Apuzzo

MommaE and Hillary talk radio show | Momma E and the Radio Rebels Politics And News At It's Best - Host MommaE: 1/23/2009 7:30 PM - 1 hr 30 min

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Politics and current events with Momma E taking your calls and defending the truth. There will be an Attorney that will give us some updates on what he is going to do to continue the fight against Obama. I am going to keep the first Attorney's name quite until the Show. The last Guests will be the lead Plaintiff in the Kerchner v Obama case that was just filed on the 20th and his Attorney Mario Apuzzo!! Click here to listen.

Provocative Speculations about the Supreme Court's Considerations of the Eligibility Challenges

Quite a bit of contemplating and communicating may be done, before we next hear from the Supreme Court, on Wednesday. Meanwhile, the interested reader is likely to find these items provocative.

In "Berg v. Obama: Case Disposition Likely Wednesday," Phil of TRSoL relates that the Supreme Court (SCOTUS) will not announce a disposition on today's conference about Berg's application for injunction until Wednesday, 1/21, due to the court being closed Monday and Tuesday.

In his piece, Phil refers to profoundly interesting analyses of the SCOTUS by two experienced, albeit, anonymous legal professionals. One, by "Lawyer from Missouri" was discovered in I.O's second comment to Monday's post, "Countdown of the Fictitious Presidency of Barack Obama."

The other brief analysis is that of the father of FReeper, "hoosiermama" (if accurately copied or compiled; it seems so to me). This hoosier grandpa is a former Federal Appellate Court legal clerk.

Both analyses, plus one other, put Berg's case and potentially others in the "alive and very well" category and fit together to potentially provide significant insight into how the SCOTUS is approaching this. It has also been noted that it took a 5 of 9 majority to accept the Anderson amicus brief, to Berg v. Obama.

Can you write a good amicus brief, for any of the cases being brought to SCOTUS? (See the list, here.) Or, do you know of someone who might? This may be a very good time to do so.

Amidst this analysis, it is mentioned that the Supreme Court might find fraudulent activities in Congress, regarding their treatement of Obama as a certifiably eligible presidential candidate. The next posting in I.O. examines how this may be so.

I.O. may also add another analysis or two, to this posting -- if I can find the time and bandwidth (Internet is down, at home).

Update, 1/16: I'm sure some have already seen this. I'll link again to Phil's news, to present a second-hand report from Obama challenger attorney, Stephen Pidgeon, as presented by a volunteer assistant, "Chalice." I.O. is glad to see him on the job, in a fashion quite complementary to those of Orly Taitz and of Philip Berg.

Update, 1/16: Back to Berg: Comment #13 in this post by "Zapem" in the site of the same name, provides further clarification. Since further discovery is in order, that is the job of the lower courts, not of the SCOTUS.

Obama Divorce Papers, via PlainsRadio.com - updating as it goes

The Barack Hussein Obama Sr. / Stanley Ann divorce papers are in the possession of Ed Hale and PlainsRadio.com.

Investigating Obama will likely be making numerous updates within this post, as the afternoon and evening proceed. You might expect some bad spelling, typos, and weird grammar. And, to anyone actually offended by how nutty this all appears to be, just relax and have a sense of humor -- this is just the United States presidency after all. I.O. reports; you decide, hide, or roller-coaster ride. (Ed and Caren Hale, pictured.)

2:25pm CT - Ed Hale has his FedEx package and has made sure that among others, attorney, Stephen Pidgeon is getting a copy. PlainsRadio.com is to post it for public view at 8pm CT, tonight. Ed and others will be 'net audio-wise, too, as previously mentioned.

3:38pm CT - I.O. has gained a pre-release copy of image files of the divorce papers. (BTW, these are the previously unreleased Obama divorce papers, not the Soetoro divorce papers, for any who are still wondering.) I will be examining them over the next few minutes, but will withhold essential information as to how it pertains to BHO II until probably shortly before 8pm, as agreed with Plains Radio.

4:51pm CT - Someone I.O. is not naming has suggested listening to The Shaggs, while waiting for the Plains Radio broadcast. Hm. I.O. confesses it would not have thought of that, but loves you all, too.

5:02pm CT - While, as stated, I will not yet divulge whether or not the divorce decree refers to the citizenship of Barack Obama ("The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers," as FReeper, Rodney Dangerfield has named him) I will say that this document is significant and do suggest listening to Plains Radio, tonight.

6:10pm CT - Ed Hale is on PlainsRadio live, now. He is proclaiming he has new information (that is beyond me at this point, but don't let that get you down) but will not state yet, what it is. He is exhuberant indeed. Go ahead and listen, if you can. He says they can prove now, that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. That is what he is saying. I'm just hearing. ;-)

6:23pm CT - Ed won't say what exactly he is speaking of, but he believes that one piece of information on the document has lead to further information. He also reports that four pages of the divorce decree information are missing and that he is working with his PI in Hawaii to get them. Also, that the Globe will be reporting further and interviewing him. (Remember, it was National Enquirer that found out about John Edwards.) And now, my PlainsRadio audio feed has gone out.

6:30pm CT - I got the audio back. Ed Hale is convinced he can prove Obama was born in Kenya, with the further, undisclosed evidence. I believe he is convinced.

6:56pm CT - It is the original Hawaiian a birth certificate of BHO II [at a port of entry] that Ed believes he can somehow fish out of the Pacific islands [of public records]. He purports it can be obtained with further work on the ground, now that some bit of information in this divorce decree has been discovered: a different name for Stanley Ann is listed there? I'll have to take another look at those documents.... And, whoever is on the ground may want to start eating out of vending machines and wearing Kevlar -- just kidding about that, aren't I?

7:18pm CT - Okay, Mr. Hale says the birth certificate he seeks is not the Hawaiian vault copy.

7:46pm CT - As for names, I see names on the divorce decree. Stanley Ann is listed in a standard and consistent way. So are both B.H.O's I and II. It would s-e-e-e-m that Hale is referring to another name/person. And here, it isn't even 8:00, yet.

8:07pm CT - Here are the image files of the divorce decree, from Plains Radio. You may enlarge each one with a click. As you see, there are no pages marked 8 through 11. Just 1 through 7, plus 12. Hale believes he will have copies of the missing four pages on Monday, 1/7 and while confessing he does not know what they are, speculates they could be child support papers, which could possibly refer to BHO II's birthplace. This coming Monday is one day before Congress is to certify the Electoral College vote, which opens an opportunity for Senators and Representatives to officially object (which in turn, could precede a trip across the street, to the SCOTUS, with all the standing that black robed constitutional cartel can handle).


Hale says that the "D." in Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama's name is significant of something. I wouldn't know what, except for her maiden name. You may also note that BHO II is mentioned in two places and place of birth is not mentioned. However...

This is a court declaration that BHO II is in fact the son of BHO I as has been "naturally" assumed. That means that Barack Obama is constitutionally disqualified from being U.S. President, as this Web log has repeatedly explained and has documented -- along with numerous lawyers, historians, and thoughtful Web surfers.

8:28pm CT - Obama challenging lawyer, Stephen Pidgeon is on Plains Radio, now. His perspective will be quite interesting.

8:28pm CT - Attorney Pidgeon is essentially giving Ed Hale his legal assistance, on the air. Interesting times again, at Plains Radio. Pidgeon explains how BHO II is not a natural born citizen, if born abroad. Further, he explains how Obama's online "Certificate of Live Birth" (COLB) has been altered and in that way (among others, potentially) is invalid. Then, he explains how Hawaii COLB's are not birth certificates of the kind which are required for fundamental identification. Then, he explains how it is admitted knowledge that Stanley Ann's second husband, Lolo Soetoro adopted Barack, whose name was changed to Barry Soetoro and who was registered in an Indonesian elementary school as an Indonesian citizen. After this, the discussion gets into the question of whether Barack Obama might be guilty of criminal fraud, if he were born in another nation.

8:50pm CT - Pidgeon now explains once more how BHO I passed along U.K. citizenship to BHO II and how that disqualifies BHO II from being U.S. President (not a natural born Citizen of America, clearly a U.K citizen). Ed underscores this. Good for Ed. Nevermind the letter "D." for Dunham. Ed has the the letter from John Jay going for the cause. "This program is brought to you by the letter, Jay."

9:15pm CT - Now, Pidgeon explains how becoming an Indonesian citizen voids the status of natural born Citizen, requiring naturalization, if one is to then become an American citizen, again. And now, the discussion goes to this peculiar, new working assumption of Ed Hale that there is an immigration birth certificate (perhaps my term) for BHO II on file in America and how to gain a copy.

9:26pm CT - Now, Pidgeon discusses the natural born Citizen issue per the foreign father further... friends. There is a difference between controlling authority (law and precedent) and persuasive authority (original intent and meaning, informed by such things as contemporaneous documentation). Pidgeon discusses how the "hard" (my word) British citizenship of BHO II brings weight in terms of controlling authority, as well as the Donofrio doctrine of what Pidgeon refers to as persuasive authority. My personal take as a part-time student of history: the courts should/must defer to hard evidence of persuasive authority in such an instance as this, in order to maintain intellectual/epistemological honesty, though Pidgeon's point is hard-core clear, too. Pidgeon says the courts would consider that they would have to "define" natural born Citizen. I say that if the courts think this, they are foundationally maladjusted. The term has been cast in stone by the Constitution as its known and documented meaning of that time.

9:46pm CT - Now, a caller's question is about the effect of Obama potentially having an Indonesian student visa, when a college student and later. Also, did Obama have an American passport, when he traveled back to Indonesia, in 1981? Can this be discovered? [Yes, can this be discovered, or can it be certified that one does not exist? Can an Indonesian passport be discovered? Not many days left....] Other callers are asking other questions. Pidgeon is very informative.

9:50pm CT - Pidgeon reminds us that the Wrotnowski case is still "pending" and procedurally alive.

The program closes, to the synthesized drum and bugle core music of the Hales' Lion's Den program. It should become available soon, as a streaming archive on the plainsradio.com site. Stephen Pidgeon is to revisit Plains Radio on Monday evening. I am sure that Ed Hale and his Plains Radio compatriots will continue to pursue the immigration-? birth certificate issue and that we will hear more about it.

And now, I will invite you to read further in your humble Investigating Obama and suggest that you look into the article in The Right Side of Life, "Dunham v. Obama: Document Confirms Fatherhood, FactCheck.org, UK-Kenyan Colonial Law," for a recap of this evening's events, Internet discussion, and documentation. I'm going to read that article for the first time now, myself.

I will take at least one more look into comments for this post, too. There have been numerous ones. Feel free to pass along this and other I.O. postings.

Shucks, you might also be interested in the next Plains Radio program, Wild Bill Hickock, brought to you by Kellogg's Sugar Pops. This episode: "Silk Hat Hogan's Donkey."

PS: 11:02pm CT - 1. It is a mistake to think that Ed Hale did not know that Stanley Ann's maiden name was Dunham. 2. It is also a mistake to think that these divorce records are not significant.

PPS: 12:03am CT - In this broadcast, it was mentioned that staunch defender of the Constitution, Rep. Ron Paul of Texas may be getting interested in standing up for Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5, in Congress, January 8 -- and hopefully in prior discussions with colleagues. I repeat: we also need a U.S. Senator to protest for the Constitution, a.s.a.p.

Plains Radio Webcast, Listener's Notes: Wrotnowski, Donofrio, Pidgeon

Live updating through the evening -- my notes from tonight's Plains Radio Webcast. (Parenthetical comments are by I.O., AW.) After Jill Stanek, on the state of the pro-life movement in an American culture steeped in death are featured Natural Born Citizen Challengers, Cort Wrotnowski (CT), Steve Pidgeon (WA) and Leo Donofrio (NJ) and... Chester A. Arthur.

Interview of Cort Wrotnowski...

• Donofrio's research on President Chester A. Arthur's covered-up U.K. citizenship brings new implications that will be included in the filing before the SCOTUS.
• If a SCOTUS hearing is held, Wrotnowski plans for Donofrio to present his case.
  
• Press is avoiding Wrotnowski, while it plays up the denial of Donofrio's hearing.
• Adam Liptak of the New York Times is inqiring, also Eric Zorn of the Chicago Tribune (obdurate leftist propagandist I've had experience with - AW).
• Joe Thunder reporting on the liveliness of the National Press Club press conference today, by others bringing suit (on the birth certificate). Thunder videotaped it. Pastor Manning was there (oh, oh) in addition to Orly Taitz. Thunder will post on his site, tomorrow afternoon, freedommarch.org. [I.O. Ed., audiotape, here]
  
• At one point, one of our objective-as-Goebbels journalists told Ms. Taitz, "...just go home...."
  

During the break, I see on I.O's sidebar that Leo Donofrio has updated his blog about the Wrotnowski progress at the SCOTUS.

• Adulterated allegiances are very dangerous for a nation's Commander in Chief to have.
• After December 15, charge of the process of determining the presidency is passed from the Electoral College (provided they vote, that day) to Congress and the chances of effectiveness of law suits are diminished.
• Ed Hale pass along from Leo Donofrio that he believes Wrotnowski's case is very strong, with advantages over Donofrio vs. Wells. "Layman" Ed says he thinks this is indicative of positive results.
• A caller wonders if and when Obama's side will be called in and will weigh in.
• Cort has to beg off -- claims he's busy. ;-`
• The Political Pastor program is signing off; TPP announces his chat room at Plains Radio.
  
• Ed Hale will have Steve Pidgeon on, who is bringing suit before the Washington Supreme Court.

Break -- if they need to keep beating the SCOTUS over the head with 2x4's so be it, until they gain constitutional sense.

Now, Karen and Ed Hale's Lions' Den program - it's a long, rich, historical evening at Plains Radio, interviewing Steve Pidgeon...

• Pidgeon's case has standing.
• Discussion of the 1790 statute, setting forth a "natural born citizen" (BTW, this phrase was specifically stricken from the stature in 1795.) requiring both parents to be citizens and the father, a resident of the USA. This disqualifies Obama.
  
• The 14th Amendment calls anyone born in the USA a "citizen." (However, see the declaration of the framer of the 14th amendment, about being a "natural born citizen!"). And this requires Obama's mother to have been 19 (longer story made short) when Barack-II was born. She was 18.
• Suit says Obama, a. not a natural born citizen, b. not a citizen, and c. arrrghhh!! the program winked out on me and it isn't coming back up!

If/when I can regain the broadcast, I'll be back to it. Coffee... want... coffee.... // OK, it's back for me.

• I'm guessing that point "c." above is that his Indonesian citizenship revokes his American citizenship (or perhaps he point "c." has to do with the birth certificate).
• Pidgeon's suit may bring the first case with standing having to do with the birth certificate before the SCOTUS.
• Caller from New Zealand brings up the writing of John A. Bingham (framer of the 14th Amendment) regarding allegiance, to be a natural born citizen.
• Obama became a Kenyan citizen officially in 1963, then an Indonesian citizen. He was apparently adopted, from the Lolo Soetoro / Ann divorce records, by an Indonesian citizen. If he is an American citizen after these facts, this means Obama is a naturalized citizen, and utterly not a natural born citizen by anyone's construct.

The one and only Leo Donofrio, Esq. is now on the program...

• Talking about how lame and inexperienced the states are, at even considering how to verify the citizenship qualifications of candidates. (How can one certify without verifying?)
• About the history of Chester A. Arthur's huge cover-up campaign to hide his U.K. citizenship. He appointed Justice Gray, who is the very one who wrote the opinion in the Wong Kim Ark case which liberalized American citizenship requirements! (That sounds eerily familiar, if you have read what friends of BHO are opining about citizenship.)

Break. I'm getting angrier, now. Blood pressure rising. "History repeats itself." -- history of corruption of the sacred trust we place in elected officials. God, if you are judging America, please spare the most innocent and punish most, those who most deserve it.

• Donofrio's point seems to be that allowing a fictitious president allows a great deal of dishonesty -- it allows a corrupt U.S. President. Justice Gray may have been writing "that opinion to sanitize Arthur's citizenship." Quid pro quo dealing is implied.
  
• All of Arthur's decisions and actions are tainted for history.
• Per Arthur's example, "You can't have a precedent if it is a fraud."
• Donofrio being Donofrio -- warns Pidgeon to investigate how Roger Calero was not allowed ballot access, for the sake of precedent. (Whatever one says about his NJ style, Donofrio is an excellent tactician and strategist.) Says that someone from the SoS had Calero removed and who did that should provide sworn testimony, to build the case. (Selective investigation and disqualification.) There could be a cover-up in WA.
  
• Donofrio believes Wrotnowski's application is much better drafted.
• Donofrio explains how the judge in NJ misapplied his suit: action in lieu of a prerogative writ became forced by the court into a writ of lesser application. Then, they refused his motion by a hoodwink excuse, based upon the procedural error the court itself created. (I'm not a lawyer and don't even play one on TV, so pardon my terminology.)
  
• (BTW, I'm wondering, since Wrotnowski is not a lawyer and Donforio says he was/is pleased at how much better his case is drafted -- it would seem, before Donofrio got to it -- did they get help from another attorney, in cognito? I did take Latin and I played a lawyer in a couple 5th grade vignettes.)
• The goofball idea that the SCOTUS should turn down the challenges, to avoid unrest and "overturning the will of the people." (David Horowitz is haranguing at conservatives challengers on this, for one.) Donofrio: "I'm sorry, it's not a real election if it's two fraudulent candidates."
• Pidgeon tells Donofrio that if the SCOTUS weren't interested in the case, it would have been rejected without going to conference. (My point: depends on the Justice.)
• Donofrio: even though he blogged about the idea that the SCOTUS might have preferred the strength of the Wrotnowski case, he was (stunned) when blog commentators told him Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz was referred to conference, a few minutes later!
• A stay of the Electors before Dec. 15 would be in order, because otherwise there would be a conflict of laws.
• Allowing not a strictly "natural born Citizen," could allow an orchestrated agent provocateur to become U.S. President. (What about someone of the kind who, during his campaign, would hold a rally in Germany, before hundreds of thousands, claiming himself a "Citizen of the World?")
  
• Caller commends those bringing these cases, affirming that the United States Constitution is worth sacrifice.
  
• Ed Hale asks someone for a pack of cigarettes and to his credit says "please."
• Discussion shifts (degrades? I hope not) into some contention of the likely success of the quest for the original certificate of live birth (COLB) but rises back to the point that this is the responsibility of the states' Secretaries of State, to which Pidgeon and Donofrio agree.
• Ed Hale requests that Donofrio and Pidgeon come back Friday night.
• Leo has to work all night on the new Chester A. Arthur brief and Cort Wrotnowski will drop it off in SCOTUSville tomorrow.

End of broadcast.
Prayers are in order.

• End note, 12/9, 2:10am: Despite the media gates, some do pay attention, but just who? Well, among others, I.O. just got a view from Hanoi -- via a Google search: "Wrotnowski obama."
  

Hey, here's an idea -- pick some of the media gatekeepers you most wish to bother and...
SEND it to the psy-ops jocks!! -- email envelope, below
(And they've called President Bush "incurious." -- Try, ostrich-headed.)

PS: my apologies, but not inclined to do much proof reading of the above.