See These Two, from Leo Donofrio's Natural Born Citizen

I.O. suggests these two items, in addition to the above and the below, of course.

1. Obama Opposed the Born Alive Infant Protection Act And Won The Nobel Peace Prize

2. SCOTUS: No Private Right To Quo Warranto

The Hawaiian Investigation of Obama Birth Certificate Attestations & Realities: TerriK, Donofrio, et. al. -- Updated

Strand Magazine
...or compendium if you prefer, of the strands of evidence

Hawaii has an open records law, similar to the federal "Freedom of Information Act." A few individuals are looking for equal justice under that law. The articles below are suggested, roughly in this order, to understand the events, aspects, and nuances of the attempts to discover what the alleged "Hawaiian Birth Certificate" of Barack Obama actually is and what has been done with it, by whom, over the years.

Arthur Conan Doyle originally wrote his Sherlock Holmes stories as serials, published in a magazine. That art imitates the real life of a journaled investigation.

As of 10/4/2009

1. "Let'sProve Obama Was Born in Hawaii, So We Can Move Onto His British Birth," prologue by Leo Donofrio, 9/20/2009
2. "Pending Litigation: Hawaii Confirms that Obama's Vital Records Have Been Amended," initial thesis regarding TerriK's initial investigation, by Leo Donofrio, 9/21
3. "TerriK Investigation: Foreshadowing," by Leo Donofrio, 9/29
4. "TerriK Investigation – Part 1: Hawaii Department of Health Directors Fukino and Okubo Are Guilty of Misdirection," by Leo Donofrio, 9/24
5. "Okubo Refuses Another Citizen’s Request to Comply with Hawaii Law," by John Charlton, 9/ 24
6. "Hawaii D0H Official, Janice Okubo Places Her Thumb Directly in the Giant's Eye," by Leo Donofio, commenting on John Charlton's work, 9/25
   
7. "TerriK Investigation, Part 2: OIP Staff Attorney Linden Joesting’s Response to TerriK’s Appeal Appears To Confirm That The DoH Maintains Amended Vital Records For President Obama," by Leo Donfrio, 9/26
8. "Is Fukino's Office in Open Rout?" by John Charlton, 9/30 (Republished in Donofrio's Natural Born Citizen, 9/30, for those who wish to explore comments)
   
9. "TerriK Investigation, Part 3: Hawaii AG Mark Bennett Approved Fukino’s Natural-Born Citizen Statement; All Records Should Be Made Public According To Law," Leo Donofrio, 10/1
10. "Leo Donofrio is No Longer Spokesperson for TerriK," by Leo Donofrio, 10/2
11. "DoH Reverses Course - Releases Index Data for President Obama, Stanley Ann, and Barack, Sr.; No Records for Maya Exist," by Leo Donofrio, 10/2
12. "Okubo Caught Again: Admits Providing False Information Regarding DoH Maintenance of Divorce Records," by Leo Donofrio, 10/3
13. "Okubo has Really Got Herself in a Pickle Now," by John Charlton, 10/4
14. "Our Worst Nightmare Confirmed: Obama's COLB Lacks Legal Veracity; What now?" by MissTickly (a.k.a., "TerriK") 10/4 [I.O. ed., painting the picture, presenting the premise of her inquiries]
    
    New in this Update
    
    
15. "Rejected? (See Update)" by MissTickly, 10/7 [ed., laying out her communications with the State of Hawaii, in orderly fashion]
    
16. "Waaaaa! Was Obama a baby on August 4, 1961?" by MissTickly, 10/8 [ed., more odd ways of wording things, from Team Hawaii]
    

Further reading may be done at The Right Side of Life.

There you have it, for now, with a few more strands, knots, and loose ends, all hanging on the back side of the tapestry -- the side upon which we are presently kept.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<> I.O.<>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Listen to MissTickly, a.k.a., TerriK on "The Awakening," this Monday evening, 10/12, 9-11pm ET,,, 6-8pm PT (and 4-6pm in Hawaii) and ask her your questions.


Listen to Leo Donofrio on "The Awakening," archived from Monday evening, 10/5 9-11pm ET,,, 6-8pm PT (and 4-6pm in Hawaii).

At the back of the tapestry?
Or, swept under the rug, along with your Constitution?
Latch onto a strand and hang on tight;
It may become a flying carpet.

'Quo Warranto for 'Interested Persons'' - Leo Donofrio; Plus Related Items: Are You 'Interested?'

Constitutional lawyer, Leo Donofrio and constitutional journalist, John Charlton have weighed in, on the question of jurisdiction for federal quo warranto petitions for District of Columbia office holders (including those which may question their eligibility - and in case our Attorney General is reading, no pun is intended for the word "holder," yet).

This is of import to the eligibility case, Barnett, et. al., v. Obama, et. al. In addition to this Donofrio article, see references at bottom, for further context, both in history and in present ramifications.

Quo Warranto for 'Interested Persons'

by Leo Donofrio, 10/9/2009

Section 16-3503 of the federal quo warranto statute allows an “interested person” to approach the DC District Court concerning a quo warranto trial (by jury) without requiring the permission of the US Attorney General or the US Attorney for DC.

An “interested person” may sign a “certified complaint” which states facts and those facts must be sworn to under penalty of perjury. Only facts may be sworn to, not allegations. The “interested person” gathers up all facts known to him/her and puts them in the petition, swears to them under oath and hands that in to the Court. Pretty simple, folks.

One fact which could safely be sworn to is that Obama was governed by the British Nationality Act of 1948 and that he was – at birth – a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies. These are facts admitted by Obama. These facts have never been laid before the DC District Court. These facts are not in the complaint before Judge Carter. Why not?

16-3503 states:

If the Attorney General or United States attorney refuses to institute a quo warranto proceeding on the request of a person interested, the interested person may apply to the court by certified petition for leave to have the writ issued. When, in the opinion of the court, the reasons set forth in the petition are sufficient in law, the writ shall be allowed to be issued by any attorney, in the name of the United States, on the relation of the interested person…

Plaintiffs in Barnett v. Obama allege that they have standing which is unique and special compared to the public at large. Therefore, they should have availed themselves of 16-3503.

But they’ve never even tried.

Plaintiffs have only attempted to avail themselves of 16-3502. All citizens are considered “third persons” under 16-3502, but all citizens don’t have unique standing and therefore 16-3502 requires permission by the Department of Justice to use the name of the US – ex relator – ina quo warranto proceeding.

But if you are an “interested person” under 16-3503 – aka a person with unique standing – then you do not need permission from the Department of Justice for the quo warranto.

The DC District Court examines the certified petition prior to allowing the suit to go forth based upon that petition. If the court is satisfied that the person issuing the petition is an “interested person” then that person is not needed any longer for the trial.

Once the name of the United States is allowed to be used, the “interested person” may step off, and the facts alleged are to be tried independently. For example, facts concerning what makes the President ineligible have nothing to do with the particular plaintiffs in Barnett v. Obama. So there’s no need for them to travel across the country for the trial. The trial is brought against the alleged usurper in the name of the United States.

There’s nothing stopping the plaintiffs from petitioning the DC District Court right now based upon facts known and verifiable as to the President’s British birth.

Why has this option been ignored? 16-3503 provides an excellent chance for review of these facts. There it is. Why not use it? A golden opportunity is being thrown by the way side.

Either the DC District Court will agree that these military persons are “interested persons” or it will not. Either the DC District Court will agree that 2008 Presidential candidate Alan Keyes is an “interested person” or it will not.

If the DC District Court does not agree that these plaintiffs are “interested persons” under the statute, then plaintiffs can make the same arguments they are making now before Judge Carter.

I don’t see any tactical advantage at all in avoiding the DC District Court.

Why give one of your tickets away for free? Why give away your best ticket for free? Why not avail yourself of the very statute created by Congress to review the eligibility of all US national office holders?

Doing so also avoids “political question doctrine” issues because the quo warranto statute is a congressional exercise of Constitutional authority to review the President’s eligibility. Why not kill two birds with one stone? Also, all arguments that a quo warranto action is too late now that he’s been sworn in are just patently bogus.

Quo warranto can only be invoked against somebody holding an office under false title.

Quo warranto only applies to actual usurpation not possible usurpation. It is the legislature’s sole enactment which allows judicial review of the President’s eligibility. And it appears that serious attempts are being made to avoid it. Before going off point and trying to force this issue upon courts which have not been given such authority, an action should have been brought – and still can be – under 16-3503.

Look people, I’m trying to help. Read this over a few times until it sinks in.

Leo C. Donofrio, Citizen Attorney - http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com

Copyright 2009

This article follows Mr. Donofrio's Natural Born Citizen piece, "Judge Carter Does Not have Subject Matter Jurisdiction for Quo Warranto in Barnett v. Obama." There, he muses over the ostensible failure of Obama's personal Department of Justice representation (personal DoJ representation? - what nation is this?) in their not citing the most relevant case, to demonstrate inappropriate jurisdiction. That case is State of Wisconsin v. First Federal Savings and Loan Association.

In The Post & Email, John Charlton analyzes the Wisconsin decision and this underscores the validity of Donfrio's point: "The 7th Circuit Court's Argument Against Quo Warranto's Use - and its Applicability to Barnett vs. Obama." At the same time, he would be reaching a bit, to find any other valid, quo warranto path. A path must be made, potentially via the People's petition for redress of grievances, where government has not already provided a path for constitutional rights and powers to be maintained. However, as Donofrio described, a sensible path has been provided.

Why so Wisconsin-less?

This is a strategically important question, indeed. DoJ attorneys do not fail to find cases cataloged as being those, most directly relevant. And this question is particularly, painfully relevant for those who seriously consider the little daydream: What if this Orly Taitz case were, somehow, set up to be Obama's "chosen one," for the doing of his Marxofascist insurrection's bidding?

Do Obama (and his "transnational progressive" web of string pullers) want eligibility cases brought to a head... in this particular case... in its particular, scheduled time? If so, why?

But, perhaps the most important questions here, are these:

• Do we who seek the authentic, constitutional America, wish to petition the court constitutionally, in the District of Columbia?
• Is this the appropriate move to make, at this time?
• Are some willing to take the lead before Orly Taitz does, this time?
• As the Soros-Obama-Pelosi revolution continues to destroy America, chiefly through violently and steadily draining our economy, is there any time to waste?

Leo Donofrio discussed this quo warranto quandary at the end of the first hour, of his Monday 10/5 interview, on "The Awakening," hosted by yours truly. The rest of the discussion focused upon the new Hawaiian investigations of Barack Obama's birth certificate and related documents, subject to Hawaii's open access law.

These sites are recommended, for keeping tabs on the players and their moves:

Natural Born Citizen
The Post & Email
The Right Side of Life
I may move in and out of it again, as well. Feel free to comment upon any of these questions, there, or in Investigating Obama.

Arlen Williams

Wikipedia animation

Last Night's Interview of Leo Donofrio

The interview of Leo Donofrio during last night's edition of The Awakening was very informative. Key progress has been made, leading to further work to be done. I encourage you to isten to the archived broadcast here:

I may post some reflections, here, tonight. There were items discussed that "stuck with me" and which should be pursued.

And we look forward to Leo Donofrio's and Justin Riggs' return, to discuss latest steps and next steps.

TerriK Relates Her Birth Certificate Research; a Picture of Governmental Cynicism & Evasion of Constitution

The following is essentially represented as originally published by TerriK, i.e., by and in Miss Tickly's Question 'O'thority.

OUR WORST NIGHTMARE CONFIRMED:
Obama’s COLB Lacks Legal Veracity.
What Now?
10/04/2009

By MissTickly (aka ‘TerriK’)

On July 27, 2009, Obama was not verified as ‘Constitutionally Qualified to be U.S. President’ by the standards of Hawaii’s Department of Health and Vital Statistics Registrar. Any assertions by Nancy Pelosi or anyone else must be reexamined under the following LIGHT:

THE KEY: ‘FILED by Local Registrar’ vs. ‘ACCEPTED by State Registrar’

We have two statements about two sets of vital records belonging to the President issued from Hawaii. An “original birth certificate” that is “on record in accordance to state policies and procedures” in October, 2008, AND “original vital records” that are “maintained on file,” on July 27, 2009.

1.) Dr. Fukino, Director of the Department of Health on Oct. 31, 2008:

“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”

2.) Dr. Fukino, Director of the Department of Health on July 27, 2009:

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”

• We also have a COLB presented by President Obama that indicates the information shown has been ‘Filed by Registrar.’ Fig.1 (see below)

• However, we also have samples found online of HAWAII COLBs that say they have been ‘Accepted by State Registrar.’ Fig 2 & Fig 3 (see below)

MOVING ON WITHOUT HAWAII’S HELP

Hawaii refuses to answer simple procedural questions. Using Nevada’s guidelines on vital statistics, we can reasonably discern the validity of President Obama’s COLB online and the “vital records” used to help verify his is a “natural-born” American citizen and “born in Hawaii.”

In viewing the U.S. Vital Statistics System found here: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/misc/usvss.pdf (pp.62-63), we can see that there began a distinct effort to establish uniform practices of recording Vital Statistic information in all states.

Budget Bureau’s recommendations in 1943:

“Instead it proposed the creation of a cooperative vital records system, comprising the existing State and independent city vital statistics offices and a national office to ‘‘represent and serve the system from a Federal standpoint, and, by making available financial and technical aid, would work to improve, develop, and integrate the individual units of the system.’’ It called for a program of continuous allotment of money to the present State, city, and Territorial offices to be spent for correcting defects in the registration system and for expansion as required.”

Using the state of Nevada’s clearly posted procedures AND policies as a guideline, we can conclude that President Obama is not ‘constitutionally qualified’ to be U.S. President with the information found on his original birth certificate. AND the information he submitted to the state, to support any changes, was still pending approval on 7/27/09 and therefore insufficient to verify anything legal…like birth place and natural born citizenship–which happens at birth and those facts are static.

Birth place can arguably never really be amended once recorded the first time. Proof was offered at birth in order for the State Registrar to record it originally….unless it was left blank at birth...or perhaps the President has an *ahem* ‘clerical error’ on his original birth certificate.

This is highly irregular, no?

IF THE U.S. HAS STANDARDIZED MUCH OF THE POLICY AND PROCEDURES FOR RECORDING VITAL STATISTIC RECORDS LIKE THE U.S. VITAL STATISTICS SYSTEM INDICATES, THEN WE DON’T EVEN NEED HAWAII TO ANSWER OUR SIMPLE REASONABLE QUESTIONS.

Not really anyway. Only a FOOL would argue otherwise at this point. A paid or unpaid FOOL:

• What does the phrase “on record in accordance with state policies and procedures” mean in the October Statement referencing the President’s original birth certificate?

• What does the phrase “maintained on file” mean in the July Statement referencing the vital records verifying his birth place and “natural-born” American citizenship status?

• What does a ‘Filed by Registrar’ COLB indicate?

• What does an ‘Accepted by State Registrar’ COLB indicate?

We can conclude from Fukino’s use of the phrase “maintained on file” which refers to the vital records “verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen,” the state had not recorded and indexed the information verifying the facts within. We can conclude that the State of Hawaii was unsatisfied on July 27, 2009 of those facts.

THIS IS SIMPLY OUTRAGEOUS. BREATHTAKINGLY STUPID. IT’S RECKLESS. IT’S UNBELIEVABLE.

Excuse me? It is just beyond words.

I cannot imagine a worse scenario emerging from all of this. Can you?

And when the State issued his COLB that states ‘Filed by Registrar,’ in 2007, we can conclude that the evidence submitted to them of the ‘proof of the facts stated within the COLB’ was insufficient, at least at that time, to warrant recording on permanent state record with the Registrar.

To preface the following, please read Leo Donofrio’s account of my experience that yielded two types of admissions by the State of Hawaii’s Department of Health, that an amendment &/or correction to the President’s Birth Record was pending on July 27.

• ‘Foreshadowing’ (first indication of admission)

• ‘TerriK Investigation: Part 2′ (statutory admission)

The following ‘vital records policy and procedural information’ from Nevada also seems to indicate, an amendment was pending OR INITIATED when the President was issued his 2007 COLB. I suspect similar policies are in place in Hawaii. We just can get to it. We can’t ask…or at least they won’t answer. And they won’t tell us where to find the answer.

Staff at the Hawaii DoH do not want people to know how to read the legal documents they issue AND they don’t want to explain what their statements to the public really mean.

FIRST you mix the dough, THEN you bake it: there is a TWO STEP PATH to issuing legitimate, registered birth certificates in Nevada. There are two sets of obstacles which an ‘application to file for’ and an ‘application to file for an amendment of information’ must clear. The second involves providing PROOF of facts.

Amazingly, President Obama’s online COLB never got that far when it was issued in 2007.

UNLESS BOTH STEPS ARE COMPLETED, THE STATE DECLARES THE FILED APPLICATION OR AN APPLICATION TO AMEND HAS ‘INSUFFICIENT PROOF’ TO SUPPORT THE INFORMATION FOUND WITHIN.

An application can be dismissed for lack of evidence after a period of time, or a person can submit evidence to be reviewed and accepted in the SECOND STEP. In the interim, the state makes no claim that the Birth Certificate ON FILE has been found sufficient on a state registrar level. AND they should clearly state so on the Certificate if this is the case.

They do. Now we all know–it’s been in front of our faces all along.

FIRST STEP IN FILING AND REGISTERING A BIRTH IN NEVADA IS AT THE LOCAL ADMINISTRATION LEVEL:

http://www.leg.state.nv.us/nrs/NRS-440.html

LOCAL ADMINISTRATION
NRS 440.190 County health officer as registrar.
NRS 440.200 Furnishing blank certificates. [It's likely that President Obama filled out a blank certificate or form supplied by the state to local officials in order to file for an amendment to his birth information.]
NRS 440.210 Certificates of birth and death: Examination by local health officer.
NRS 440.220 Certificates of birth and death: Enforcement of requirements by local health officer.
NRS 440.230 Certificates of birth and death: Numbering; attestation of date of filing by local health officer.
NRS 440.240 Certificates of birth and death: Preservation of copies by local health officer.
NRS 440.250 Certificates of birth and death: Filing by deputy county health officer; filing of list of deceased persons with public administrator.
NRS 440.260 Certificates of birth and death: Time for delivery to State Registrar.

[NOTE: UPON COMPLETION OF THE FIRST STEP, THE FILED ‘APPLICATION CERTIFICATE’ IS SENT TO THE STATE REGISTRAR FOR THE REQUIRED APPROVAL.]
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PLEASE ALSO TAKE SPECIAL NOTE OF THE FOLLOWING LANGUAGE (TERMINOLOGY) WHICH INDICATES THE PROCEDURES COMPLETED WHEN PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS ISSUED HIS COLB POSTED ONLINE:

“NRS 440.230 …..Filing by deputy county health officer”

• Now add it to this:

“NRS 440.190 County health officer as registrar.“

• Translation: “Filed by Registrar” which is what the President’s online COLB states clearly.

President Obama’s online COLB says ‘FILED BY REGISTRAR.’ The information on the President’s COLB represents information he furnished the local registrar in an application to amend his vital record information. He furnished this info likely on a blank certificate or form supplied by the local registrar. Fukino’s statement in October 2008, indicates that an original birth certificate already existed ‘on record in accordance to state policy and procedure.’ The vital records she refers to on July 27, 2009, “verifying” the President is a ‘natural-Born’ American citizen and born in Hawaii are only “maintained on file,” therefore they cannot possibly be “on record with the State Registrar:”

Fig 1

SECOND STEP IN FILING AND REGISTERING A BIRTH IN NEVADA IS AT THE STATE ADMINISTRATION LEVEL:

THIS STEP MUST BE COMPLETED FOR A BIRTH CERTIFICATE OR INFORMATION BEING AMENDED WITHIN A BIRTH CERTIFICATE TO BE FOUND VALID OR LEGAL PROOF.
http://www.leg.state.nv.us/nrs/NRS-440.html

If the records that verified our president was born in Hawai’i and is a “natural-born American citizen” did not complete or end at state level registration through STEP TWO, those records are completely empty and unfounded for all legal purposes.

STATE ADMINISTRATION
NRS 440.110 State Registrar of Vital Statistics.
NRS 440.120 Regulations of State Board of Health concerning registration; enforcement by State Registrar. [NOTE: This never happened for the President's online COLB, so the info found on it is NOT LEGAL.]
NRS 440.130 Preparation and distribution of forms and blanks; charge for blank certificate.
NRS 440.135 Form for reporting divorce or annulment of marriage: Preparation; contents; distribution.
NRS 440.140 Preparation and issuance of instructions; use of other forms and blanks prohibited.
NRS 440.150 Examination and supplementation of certificates. (See below)
NRS 440.160 Preservation and indexing of certificates. [Any pending application has not been indexed. Therefore, the index data won't show the whole picture. Perhaps, not even for Maya.]
NRS 440.165 Reproduction of original records and files.
NRS 440.170 Records open to inspection; use of data restricted.
NRS 440.175 Furnishing statistical data; limitation on preparation or issuance of certain documents; charging fees to homeless persons prohibited; remittance required for issuing copies.

Obama has an incomplete and unsatisfactory COLB if indications from Nevada policy are true:

“NRS 440.150 EXAMINATION AND SUPPLEMENTATION OF CERTIFICATES. THE STATE REGISTRAR SHALL CAREFULLY EXAMINE THE CERTIFICATES RECEIVED FROM THE LOCAL HEALTH OFFICERS, AND IF THEY ARE INCOMPLETE OR UNSATISFACTORY HE SHALL REQUIRE SUCH FURTHER INFORMATION TO BE FURNISHED AS MAY BE NECESSARY TO MAKE THE RECORD COMPLETE AND SATISFACTORY.”

In other words, The State Registrar says, “Something stinks here and I ain’t puttin’ any of it on record.”

“COMPLETED RECORDS” – MEANING ONE WHERE ENOUGH EVIDENCE HAS BEEN COLLECTED, REVIEWED AND ACCEPTED, PER POLICY AND PROCEDURE, TO RECORD THE VITAL STATISTICS WITH THE STATE REGISTRAR.

IT IS AT THIS POINT THAT A FILED CERTIFICATE APPLICATION OF ANY KIND HAS BEEN ‘ACCEPTED BY THE STATE REGISTRAR.’

It is now “ON RECORD IN ACCORDANCE TO STATE POLICY AND PROCEDURE.”

Fig 2

OR the application for an amended certificate has been ‘accepted by the state registrar.’

Fig 3

Once the President’s filed application to amend his Birth Certificate was accepted by the State Registrar, the amended information would be pulled out, noted and endorsed as in Fig 3 above. It’s impossible to tell by looking at the President’s COLB, which information is to be amended until after it’s accepted. In fact, the notation that President Obama’s COLB is ‘Filed by Registrar’ indicates the state stands by NONE of the information found on the document.

HAWAII STATE REGISTRAR OFFICIALS ISSUED PRESIDENT OBAMA’S ONLINE COLB IF NEVADA SERVES AS AN ACCURATE COMPARISON:

“NRS 440.165 Reproduction of original records and files. To preserve original documents, the State Registrar is authorized to prepare typewritten, photographic or other reproductions of original records and files in his office. (Added to NRS by 1967, 1108; A 1971, 808)”

“…reproductions of original records and files…“

PRESIDENT OBAMA’S COLB IS A REPRODUCTION OF A ‘FILE.’

President Obama has a ‘reproduction of a FILE’ while other samples of Hawaiian COLBs found online are ‘reproductions of RECORDS’ that have been accepted and therefore completed with the State Registrar using the support of sufficient evidence required by the state to register the Birth Certificate on record.

Fig 2 and Fig 3 (above) have been validated and are found satisfactory to the standards of state policy. These type are accepted, recorded and indexed by the State Registrar.

DISTRACTIONS, ROADBLOCKERS AND SMOKESCREENS

While conducting my investigation I encountered a FReeper that pointed me to her own alleged Hawaii COLB which she provided to ‘Polarik’ for use in comparing to the President’s COLB. In Leo Donofrio’s blog post, Foreshadowing, he mentions a comment left to me by ‘Polarik’ on August 4, 2009 at FreeRepublic. That comment indicates that ‘Polarik’ thinks I am making the story up about receiving the Press Release pdf from Janice Okubo in Hawaii on July 27, 2009.

HOWEVER, I received confirmation from ‘Polarik’ that he received the press release pdf sent to me by Okubo when I sent it to him, myself, on August 3, 2009: the day BEFORE he left that comment. He confirmed to me on August 3, 2009, that he got the pdf and he thanked me for sending him a download link. I won’t post his private message but I assert that it happened to the best of my understanding.

Why would he then try to discredit me on a post I left on FR, entitled “Orly is Working for Obama?” His thuggish attempts to use sexism to paint me as ‘unstable’ bear a stark resemblance to the tactics used on the left against Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin.

(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2308045/posts?q=1&;page=51)

“There was NO PRESS RELEASE. It was a direct statement made to Dan Nagaso of the Honolulu Advertiser.

An “electronic press release? You mean, like an email that nobosy else has seen except you?
51 posted on Tue Aug 4 14:38:36 2009 by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)”

**It should be noted that when ‘Polarik’ confirmed he got the Press Release pdf sent to me from Okubo on the night of 7/27/09, which I uploaded for him especially on August 3, he then directed me to a story about Orly and the ‘Kenyan Birth Certificate’ that was dropped on us all in early August. As it turns out, he directed me to a distraction. We all remember the ‘crumpled ball’ photos saying we got punked? Eh?

I have my own understanding of what happened with ‘Polarik’ on August 4 and, therefore, that led me to question the person that gave ‘Polarik’ her claimed Hawaii COLB. This person approached me and in talking to her, she claimed to have a ‘Filed by Registrar’ COLB from Hawaii herself. It’s available online, often in conjunction with ‘Polarik’s’ stuff. This person also claimed that there was nothing unusual about the birth information contained within her alleged COLB–no amendments pending or otherwise, she told me, just a regular birth certificate. So I guess that blows that theory, huh?

Not so fast, I say. This COLB came out shortly after Obama released his COLB online, as I recall. It was used to get people focused on a possible forgery. Ha! It successfully distracted people from questioning too closely the words” ‘Filed by Registrar’ found on both COLBs. From the beginning. Imagine that?

I don’t know about you guys, but I have reason to suspect now that this person was mistaken, joshing with us, or received a COLB issued in error IF her story behind it is true and correct. Furthermore, a quick Google of her name indicated she was in Colorado–not Hawaii.

I can’t say for certain, but it appears that people are having fun at our expense. And these people link with other people we are trusting to help with this issue. The time to STOP relying on others is NOW. Seems no one is above suspicion these days. Be wary. Get answers from Hawaii or credible sources as I have. Do it yourselves.

INDEX DATA & WHAT IT MEANS

Although this data exists, it’s not relevant to move forward concerning the events of July 27, 2009, IMO. We KNOW the vital records used to verify the President’s Birth Place were insufficient on July 27, 2009.

We understand NOW.

Dr. Fukino, rightly tells us the vital records she saw were only on file, not on record. Unfortunately, Hawaii doesn’t offer any information on how to read a COLB nor do they use terminology that they are willing to explain–even when outright asked. As much as I worry if they are under some unfair pressure, I cannot help but think this is very disingenuous, indeed.

However, those of you interested in gathering the rest of the index data information that we are entitled to, might find this section useful. The ‘Index Data’ that Leo Donofrio reveals at his blog may be just a portion of the data that Hawaii has.

The information Leo received is likely incomplete and inclusive. Furthermore, the President’s name may be recorded on multiple ‘cards’ or recorded multiple times without the index data reflecting a change like ‘birth place.’ Please read the following and ask for ‘index data’ separately yourselves from Hawaii for a fuller picture. You will likely need to ask for each name ‘attached’ to his family and himself (e.g. Barry Soetoro). Make one request at a time or you may be directed to see the full record index in person for examination.

Send everything in separate e-mail requests to: janice.okubo@doh.hawaii.gov & chiyome.fukino@doh.hawaii.gov.

INDEX DATA (http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-440.html#NRS440Sec280):
“NRS 440.160 Preservation and indexing of certificates. The State Registrar shall:
1. Arrange and permanently preserve the certificates in a systematic manner.
2. Prepare and maintain a comprehensive and continuous card index of all births and deaths registered. The cards must show the name of the child or the deceased, the place and date of birth or death and the number of the certificate. When a certificate of birth indicates that a person has changed his name, the card index must contain a card for each name.
[Part 18:199:1911; RL § 2969; NCL § 5252]—(NRS A 1960, 157; 1981, 464)”

RESOLUTIONS & CONCLUSIONS

By using Nevada as a reasonable comparison to Hawaii’s vital records/statistics policy and procedure, we are left wondering: was the President’s “natural-born” American citizenship and birth place verified using ‘original long form birth certificate information’, an ‘application to amend his birth place’ and ‘insufficient pending evidence of that amendment that was maintained on file at the DoH?’

If so, the information used is insufficient proof, unsubstantiated, unrecorded and suspect.

State government seems to have a higher standard than our own federal government when it comes to the integrity of recording vital events. For example, look how seriously the state of Kentucky takes registering true and correct birth information:

“The Vital Statistics 1999 Report Estimates approximately 324 births occurring outside a hospital setting.

That means that 324 birth certificates were filed by local registrars and midwives who interviewed the parents, gathered the information for the certificate, asked for evidence if necessary, and prepared the certificate. Whatever the reason, there will probably be a time, or several times, that you will be required to file a “home birth”.

The thought of it scares us. We have all heard the horror stories of how some have established new identities for imaginary babies. We don’t want to be the one that was duped into filing a fake birth certificate. But, it happens, and there are precautions we should take. [Emphasis mine.]

This section will assist the registrar in filing home births or births that did not occur in a hospital setting. All local registrars must require prenatal and postnatal documentation plus documentation of residency in your county at time of birth.”

http://chfs.ky.gov/NR/rdonlyres/8C9672A5-C25C-4C13-9E66-298D55C5FBAF/0/REGGUIDELINES112008.pdf

COINCIDENTAL & BIZARRE CONGRESSIONAL MOVES…OR NOT, shhhhhh…

On July 28th, did Congress sell out our Constitution with a Resolution that declared that President Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961? If so, was it inadvertent, on purpose, corruption or stupidity? All of the above? Who knows with that gang of thieves?

From FReeper ‘BP2’: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2351064/posts?page=28#28

“Looking at the dates of TerriK’s pre-release of Fukino’s written statement (July 27) and the PUBLIC release of Fukino’s written statement (July 28) seems to indicate a COORDINATED effort by the Hawaii Department of Health and Hawaii Congressmen in an attempt to “shut down” further questions of Obama’s eligibility.

As you may recall, there was a non-binding Resolution with the passage of H.RES.593 (House timeline on July 27) and S.RES.225 (Senate timeline on July 28) recognizing Hawaii’s 50th Anniversary as a US state. Also in the Resolution, among other things, was a clause that stated “the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961.” (House version text).”

Could Congress have provided the ‘evidence’ to amend the President’s Birth Place? If so, did Dr. Fukino answer my question HONESTLY on July 27, 2009 and with fifteen minutes to spare?

My question to Dr. Fukino, Director of the Department of Health on July 27, 2009:

“Is the Director of Health for the State of Hawai’i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, able to state they have verified that the Hawai’i State Department of Health has President Barack Obama’s AMENDED original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.[?]”

HER ANSWER TO ME RECEIVED AT 11:45 p.m., July 27, 2009:

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.“

Had Dr. Fukino had answered my question with a straight-forward answer and without the extraneous points about “..born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen..,” it would have looked SOMETHING like this:

“I…have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health…I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.“

AND, we would have seen clearly that:

1.) There ARE amendments and submitted proof: “Vital Records” (plural)
2.) The vitals records are NOT “on record in accordance with state policies and procedures”
3.) The vitals records are NOT verified to be on record by the “Registrar of Vital Statistics”
4.) The vital records and proof offered to amend are insufficient for the State Registrar and, therefore, Fukino states they are “maintained on file.”

In other words, the support to amend his birth place is pending acceptance.

Furthermore, if we break her statement down further in context of the assertions made within, we see this:

“I…have seen the original vital records…verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen…“

For most people it takes ONE (singular) ‘vital record,’ an ‘original long form birth certificate,’ to verify these two things. For our President, it took more than one.

These vital records ‘maintained on file’ had no evidential value it seems. They weren’t on record in accordance to policy and procedure with the State Registrar. They were possibly used by lazy or corrupt people to assure us, We the People, that our Constitution was being upheld by government and election workers and elected officials who made oaths to uphold the Constitution.

Games may have likely been played using terms like “natural-born American citizen” to distract us from the truth.

FOR ALL WE KNOW, President Obama’s application is headed right for the garbage can even with the non-binding resolution.

What are Hawaii’s standards for approving a filed application to amend/correct ‘birth place?’ I think we know that Congress hasn’t got any. I know what mine are. How about you?

There is only ONE TRUTH. Get answers from Hawaii. If need be, get answers from Congress.

We have the evidence now, without accessing the President’s birth files – 1.) Dr. Fukino’s 7/27/2009 statement and 2.) President Obama’s online COLB because both state clearly they refer to Files of NO EVIDENTIAL value…Files that are maintained, but not on record… Files that are proof of nothing…SLEIGHT OF HAND.

Thank you Dr. Fukino for showing President Obama what transparency means, what ‘Open Government’ means. What honesty means. And what being forthcoming as a leader in whom people place their trust means. You didn’t need to give us the last clue! You’ve done enough.

Where do we go from here? What watchdog will protect us now that we have the proof that we are being bamboozled by federal government leaders? What does it mean that Hawaii won’t or can’t release information on policy and procedure? Why can’t they tell us what their legal terms mean?

Please let me know what YOU think about how we should proceed…

And please spread this analysis FAR AND WIDE.

Thank you! MissTickly (aka TerriK)

As mentioned in the I.O. sidebar, the opinions expressed by those whose work is represented here, are their own. I.O. wishes to keep its mind open to numerous possibilities and recognizes that conflicts do ensue. The contributions of MissTickly are self-evident.

For further discussion, listen to Leo Donofrio on "The Awakening," today, Monday 10/8, 9-11pm ET,,, 6-8pm PT (and 4-6pm in Hawaii). Let the investigations go on....

Obama's Past Gone Dark

Commentary by Beckwith, The Obama File, 10/3/2009

Where Do Birthers Come From?

Well, it probably started with Dreams . . . [I.O. ed., link to examination of Obama, including his book, Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance]

In the introduction, Obama acknowledged his use of pseudonyms, composite characters, approximated dialogue and events out of chronological order. "He was trying to be careful of people's feelings," said Deborah Baker, the editor on the first paperback edition of the book. "The fact is, it all had a sort of larger truth going on that you couldn't make up." -- basically, Obama's story as told by Obama, and a few others, has more than a few holes in it -- and his relationships are extraordinary.

Well, folks put that information away. Everybody puffs up their resume -- no harm -- no foul.

Then along came that Muslim thing. Obama's sister Maya was quoted by the New York Times as saying, "My whole family was Muslim." Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth," in an interview with Nicholas Kristof, published in The New York Times, reciting the Muslim call to prayer, the Adhan, "with a first-class [Arabic] accent."

The whole question of whether Obama was or wasn't a Muslim began in the Obama camp -- then there was a whole series of contradictory reports -- no! he isn't -- well, maybe he is -- well, maybe he used to be -- no! absolutely not! -- he's a committed Christian. Yeah, but what kind of Christian -- he wasn't quite what I was used to -- for 20 years, Obama was a member of a huge black nationalist church, the Trinity United Church of Christ (UCC) -- its pastor, Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, a former Muslim and black nationalist, unabashedly preached a "black" gospel" and "liberation theory."

And people said -- hey! -- wait a minute! Then the dozens of different eligibility issues -- Obama's birthplace is not certain -- the birth certificate is demonstrably counterfeit -- he admits he was a British subject at birth. And then The Obama File published this list:

• Original, vault copy birth certificate -- Not released (lawyers' fees = $2,000,000; birth certificate = $15)
• Certification of Live Birth -- Released -- Counterfeit
• Obama/Dunham divorce -- Released (by independent investigators)
• Kindergarten records -- Records lost (this is a big one -- see here -- read two frames) Obama/Dunham marriage license -- Not released (if one exists)
• Soetoro/Dunham marriage license -- Not released
• Soetoro adoption records -- Not released
• Fransiskus Assisi School School application -- Released (by independent investigators)
• Punahou School records -- Not released
• Soetoro/Dunham divorce -- Released (by independent investigators)
• Selective Service Registration -- Released -- Counterfeit
• Occidental College records -- Not released
• Passport -- Not released and records scrubbed clean by Obama's terrorism and intelligence adviser.
• Columbia College records -- Not released
• Columbia thesis -- "Soviet Nuclear Disarmament" -- Not released
• Harvard College records -- Not released
• Harvard Law Review articles -- None
• Illinois Bar Records -- Not released.
• Baptism certificate -- None
• Medical records -- Not released
• Illinois State Senate records -- None
• Illinois State Senate schedule -- Lost
• Law practice client list -- Not released
• University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None

The Illinois State Archives told Judicial Watch that they never received any request from Senator Obama to archive any records in his possession.

In 2007, Obama told Tim Russert that his records were "not kept."

And there's less on the web every day. In time, the entire Obama body of knowledge will consist of 3 documents -- "Dreams From My Father" -- "The Audacity of Hope" -- and the latest -- "Change We Can Believe In" -- all written by Barack Hussein Obama or his "ghost-writers."

Just an accident? I don't think so.

Obama has lived for almost 50 years without leaving any footprints -- none! There is no Obama documentation -- no bona fides -- no paper trail -- nothing.

Being a "Birther" is not about the birth certificate. The birth certificate isn't the answer. It's a symbol for all the other stuff that's just not there. You wouldn't hire with a guy with this CV to mow your lawn. Obama's complete disregard for the reasonable expectations of the American people to know who and what their leaders, are created Birthers -- and Obama can make them go away -- in a heartbeat. Obama -- release your bona fides. The American People have a right to know who you are, and who sent you.

Leo Donofrio on the new Hawaiian Birth Certificate Investigation, on The Awakening, Monday

​Leo Donofrio will explain the pursuit he has, for a time, shared with Terri K, looking for the truth about the Obama Birth Certificate (if that is what is there) based upon the State of Hawaii's implicit admission that it has been amended -- plus, the pursuit of a possible conspiracy of fraud and cover-up. Or, has the Hawaiian Department of Health begun to cooperate? Perhaps they will be compelled to do so.
​
​And, as Donofrio and Terri K have described, Hawaiian official, Dr. Fukino's public pronouncements about what remains concealed may inadvertently open the door, under Hawaii's Open Records Law (UIPA) to the disclosure of the birth certificate, itself.

Listen live, Monday 9-11pm ET,,, 6-8pm PT, plus there will either be additional guests​ related to this, or we will take calls, or both. You may set up a reminder at this link.

There are more details and angles to come in I.O., along with links to articles exploring the legalities and possibilities.

Even Vegetables are Getting to Know; Did a Little Bird Tell You?

May have to start watching Conan O'Brien's Tonight Show



Ya think Jeff Immelt, the NWO Barron of Fascist Generalissimo Electric, had a nice phone call with Conan, today?

Orly Taitz Watch, '...'Eligibility' Movement Members Breaking Ties...'

As reported in Orange County, California's, OC Weekly, excerpts and a click-thru, provided -- sometimes even conventional media get it pretty straight. Then again, when the news is as bad as this is, why would they need to make things up?

It starts by addressing Lucas Smith, purported Kenyan birth certificates, and the alleged suborning of perjury on the part of Orly Taitz, DDS.

Anti-Obama 'Eligibility' Movement Members Breaking Ties With Laguna Niguel Birther Orly Taitz
By Spencer Kornhaber
Published on September 23, 2009 at 11:43am

Birther Defects
Members of the anti-Obama ‘eligibility’ movement are breaking their ties with Laguna Niguel attorney Orly Taitz

John Gilhooley picture, captioned, "Orly Taitz: Big birther"

In a Santa Ana federal courtroom on Sept. 8, Dr. Orly Taitz had a clear message for Judge David O. Carter: Lucas Smith, a witness whom she had brought from the Dominican Republic that morning, had to testify that day—before it was too late.

“The biggest issue we have today is that evidence is disappearing,” said the Laguna Niguel dentist, lawyer and real-estate agent who is attempting to sue President Barack Obama out of office. “We have a number of parties that had evidence, that had knowledge that might be detrimental to the defense, that were found dead. . . . We have the most important, the most crucial witness. We have to be able to work something that they [the U.S. attorney representing Obama] can hear what he says, that you can hear what he says, that there is a record of it. . . . If, God forbid, something happens to this witness, at least we will have his testimony here.”

Carter didn’t oblige. After all, Taitz’s lawsuit against Obama hadn’t even reached the discovery stage, and the defense had been given no notice that she planned to call a witness that day. But Taitz ended up being right about one thing: Smith, who says he obtained Obama’s original birth certificate in Kenya, likely won’t get another chance to testify in Santa Ana. A week after the hearing, he says he has cut ties with Taitz because she asked him to lie under oath, making him the latest in a string of “birthers” to publicly criticize the woman who has become the face of the movement.

“I finally told her to forget it, we’ll part ways,” Smith told the Weekly on Sept. 16. “I definitely do not want anything to do with this dentist/wannabe movie star.”

After going on about Smith, it addresses Larry Sinclair and once again, an alleged suborning of perjury.

He flew to Orange County from Florida, but the night before the hearing, Sinclair says, Taitz told him to testify he knew about three people who had been killed by Obama—a charge that Sinclair says isn’t true. The next day, he told her he wouldn’t testify and would be flying home.

Then, the topic becomes the Orly Taitz problems of Cpt. Connie Rhodes

On the same day, Rhodes sent a letter to the court saying she had not authorized Taitz to fight Lands’ ruling and that she would be filing a California State Bar complaint against Taitz.

I.O. still knows of no refutation of the apparent letter/fax from Cpt. Rhodes to Judge Lands regarding misbehavior on the part of Taitz. The investigations and analysis of Larry Sinclair and net-radio's "MommaE," addressing oddities about this missive were apt, but as MommaE soon related, such evidence was not conclusive.

This article ends thusly.

Taitz wouldn’t speak to the Weekly for this story, other than to say that everything Smith had said was a lie—except the part about obtaining the Kenyan birth certificate. On her blog, though, she has lashed out at her detractors in the mainstream media, the judiciary and the birther movement. “Please don’t listen to vicious rumors,” she wrote on Sept. 16. “I am getting close to removing the usurper.”

But, the story goes on. The Judge in Charles Kerchner's suit (Mario Apuzzo, attorney) is stalling, but the Orly Taitz story goes on. And Gary Kreep, Markham Robinson, and Wiley Drake have to cope, trying to steer the boat of Barnett, et. al. v. Obama against Tatiz' sails. And again, I.O. points out that traditionally, Marxist revolutions have their strategic plants in the opposition's camp.

Investigating Obama calls, once again, for information from those who have kept tabs on the Orly Taitz details, over the last year or so, especially for anyone with legal training. If you have done some logging, or can do so, especially with an eye to her management or mismanagement of cases, please email: arlenwilliams@yahoo.com.

And for further hard news and commentary, as always, one may review the Usurper roll in I.O's sidebar. There is indeed more news, including that Taitz has apparently been compelled to admit she is now persona non grata with Cpt. Rhodes. That is pretty ex post facto, it would seem. The work has already been done in that case -- and in the career of Connie Rhodes.

h/t: Hanen

Orly Taitz Watch - More Destruction of Her Own Cases? Updated with Documentation

Judge David Carter ruled that the latest filing of Orly Taitz in Barnett, et.al., v. Obama may not be supplemented, as Tatiz had apparently intended, without the permission of the defense (the Department of Justice, oddly enough). This was their response to Obama's motion to dismiss, lauded by some for its eloquence as it rambled far beyond the points of the dismissal motion. When the right hand flourishes, watch what the left hand does.

This means that while the response of Orly Tatiz, DDS is apparently incomplete, it must stand. The umpteenth harmful error by Taitz? Merely a set of errors, or worse?

This is separate from the response given by Gary Kreep, the attorney for Markham Robinson and Wiley Drake in this same case.

Judge Carter's order is linked, here. I.O. hopes to have time to further address this mess, today.

Update ~ Do you think these concerns are wrong? Do you think that Tatiz' response hit the nails on the head, or that it addressed the motion to dismiss weakly, point for point?

Feel free to compare Orly Taitz' response, to that of Gary Kreep, to Obama's motion to dismiss -- documentation:

9/23, KEYES v OBAMA - 70 - MINUTES OF IN CHAMBERS ORDER by Judge David O. Carter: DENYING REQUEST TO FILE

9/21, KEYES v OBAMA - 69 - OPPOSITION to MOTION to Dismiss Case AND MEMORANDUM OF POINTS AND AUTHORITIES (from Orly Taitz)

9/18, KEYES v OBAMA - 67 - OPPOSITION to MOTION to Dismiss Case AND MEMORANDUM OF POINTS AND AUTHORITIES (from Gary Kreep)

9/4, Keyes|Barnett GOV MOTION TO DISMISS - 56

Update 2/25 - This comment received. Let deciders decide.

Professor Jorgen said...

@Arlen,
She wasn't indicating that she would ammend her response to the motion to dismiss but indicating that she was going to ammend her complaint again. So that says nothing to the completeness of her response to this particular motion, they are separate in that respect.

September 25, 2009 11:53 AM

And, if you would like to hear why Markham Robinson fired Orly Taitz, listen to the first hour of "The Awakening," this past Monday. It is archived and available by clicking here.

Donofrio & TerriK Using Hawaiian Law, to Get to Obama's Birth Certificate, or Evidence it Was Altered

Constitutional justice activist, TerriK tipped us off about her Hawaiian idea, in recent I.O. comments and has since gotten Leo Donofrio on the case.

I.O. suggest you keep an Hawaiian Eye (not a stink eye) on this heretofore quiet investigation, of whether Barack Obama's apparent birth certificate of this state has somehow been altered. And, as Leo Donofrio explains, the nearly famous official statement of Dr. Fukino about it, should open the door, under Hawaii's Open Records Law (UIPA) to the disclosure of the birth certificate, itself. Book that, Dan-o.

See this excerpt, from Donofrio's new blog article, "Pending Litigation: Hawaii Confirms That Obama’s Vital Records Have Been Amended," then read the rest of the story as it develops, at Natural Born Citizen.

Section 92F-12(15) states that the following must be released to the public:

(15) Information collected and maintained for the purpose of making information available to the general public;

On July 27, 2009 Hawaii Department of Health Director Fukino issued a press release which stated:

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”

TerriK requested all information “collected and maintained” for the purposes of preparing the public statement made by Director Fukino as such information must be released according to the statute.

I.O. will continue to monitor what could be a Magnum Opus.

Ye gads, not even Zeus and Apollo,
can stand in the way,
of Leo D. and TerriK,
as they doggedly pursue the truth.

George Soros, h1n1 Flu, Obama Usurper & Orly Taitz - Jim O'Neil & Markham Robinson, on The Awakening, Mon. 9/21, Archived

- George Soros, the Marxofascist Market Maker for the Global
Insurrection
- What's going on with the h1n1 flu?
- And, with Obama's (in)eligibility cases?
- And... with Orly Taitz?

Markham Robinson, plantiff in Barnett, et.al. v. Obama and Keyes v. Bowen, one of the original Obama eligibility challengers, will discuss the current case(s), his attorney, Gary Kreep's work, and why he fired Orly Taitz, in our first hour.

Jim O'Neil, on his excellent expose' "George Soros - Republic Enemy #1" and his new research on the h1n1 pandemic flu, in hour two.

Monday, 9/21, 9pm-11pm, ET,,, 6pm-8pm PT - [Edit: This program is archived and available to stream or download target="_blank"]
Stream it live, or listen in or call in at (646) 727-2652

Cpt. Connie Rhodes to File Complaint against Orly Taitz, to California Bar? NO, FRAUD, says Larry Sinclair, MommaE

Update 9/20/2009 ~ Emailed by "MommaE" on Sunday, 9/20

I want everyone to know that while the information that has been gathered, not only by me, but others as well that points to the Rhodes letter being a Forgery and Fraud, there are still questions about it.

If new information comes to light to continue to prove what we believe, or to change the belief that it is legitimate then that will be released to everyone immediately.

I would like to hear from Rhodes and not in letter form, as to whether she wrote it or not. So please understand that while I believe it is a Forgery and Fraud, that is based on the information that has been gathered by myself and others. There could be information out there to confirm that, or debunk that and prove that it is completely legitimate.

As far as I am concerned and there may or may not be others that feel as I do, this is an on going investigation, until there is absolutely no question in my mind, as to the legitimacy or illegitimacy of the letter.

Respectfully,

Evelyn Adams aka MommaE

of MommaE Radio Rebels

Update 9/19/2009 ~ This in now, from net-radio host, MommaE:

I just want everyone to know that the letter that was supposedly written and faxed by Capt. Connie Rhodes, MD to Judge Clay Land is a FORGERY AND A FRAUD!!!

There was another person besides me that was investigating this and we exchanged information this morning. That person was the one that knew how to get what was needed as undisputable truth. The proof is posted on this web site
http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/, along with a recording of a conservation with the Office Max Manager in Columbus, GA. The Manager, Andrea agreed to let the conservation be taped.

I hate it when some one commits this kind of act and gets everybody that is working hard for the cause in this kind of an uproar. I had told you all that when I had proven it one way or the other I would let you know and I am now letting you know. Please go to the above web site and read and listen to the Audio of the conservation. Both the notarized letter with Rhodes signature and the "LETTER WITH THE FRAUDULENT SIGNATURE IS POSTED THERE ALSO".

I want to thank all of you for being diligent enough to want to post nothing but the absolute TRUTH, while others don't care what they post or report as long as it keeps up dissension between everyone that is fighting for the Cause!

Respectfully,

Evelyn Adams

MommaE of MommaE Radio Rebels

Friday 9/18/2009 ~

Today's letter to Judge Land, by plaintiff Cpt. Connie M. Rhodes, MD:

[Edit: or is it? Based on a tip, check out the signature line. Now, someone may sign her name and underline it, as I.O. first regarded it, but it a-p-p-e-a-r-s to be a pre-printed line. That in turn appears to make the signature a photocopy, which appears to suggest the letter is a forgery. Yet more drama and disruption. Does someone have something to hide? I don't know, though. It would be a pretty stupid prank, if a prank.]

http://static.mgnetwork.com/rbl/pdf/birther_letter.pdf

Plus, see Judge Land's orders and the reasons for his punitive measures against Dr. Taitz:

http://static.mgnetwork.com/rbl/pdf/rhodes_macdonald_order.pdf

The source for this story is WRBL TV in Columbia, Georgia: "$10,000 Sanction Proposed Against 'Birther' Lawyer." They have been asked about this letter and they are trying to track it down. More to come.