American Sovereignty Give-Away (plus other items I.O.)

GulagBound.com

• Netroots Nation – Transmitting the “Party Line” to the Masses

  Trevor Loudon

  The Communist Party USA website Peoples World carries an interesting report on last weekend’s Netroots Nation 2010 conference in Las Vegas. Netroots is the convention where the “progressive” elite come to tell the leftist bloggers and new media people, which messages to push and how. Thousands of progressive bloggers and…

  8/2/2010

• Gulag Bound Dissidents Trevor Loudon & James Simpson in New Documentary, “AGENDA: Grinding America Down”

  Admin

  AGENDA: Grinding America Down (Trailer) from Curtis Bowers on Vimeo. Some things are self-explanatory. If Jim and Trevor are talking, I think we should listen. Same with the others. – AW

  8/1/2010

• Military Homosexual Scandal Tied to WikiLeaks Treason

  Cliff Kincaid

  Bradley Manning, PFC In the scandal involving the theft and release of classified military information that could cost the lives of U.S. military personnel, the British Telegraph newspaper is reporting that the American soldier at the center of the scandal was “openly homosexual” and apparently held a grudge against the…

  8/1/2010

• Will Obama “Persuade” Americans their Slavery is Inevitable?

  Sher Zieve

  For months, virtually each and every day Usurper-and-Dictator-in-Chief Barack Hussein Obama has been removing one or more of We-the-People’s liberties. Whether one wishes to ignore it or not, Obama is now in an all-out war against the American people and their soon-to-be former way of life. And he has…

  8/1/2010

• Whose Promises are Kept: God’s? Marxism’s? Ours?

  Arlen Williams

  “Our salvation is a promise.” Dr. D. James Kennedy has gone to his Savior, in “a better country,” but Coral Ridge Ministries goes on. And they are a beacon that belies the false, dualist and humanist maxim of separation of Christianity from politics (or from any other responsibility of…

  8/1/2010

• Anthony G. Martin: Perhaps It Is Time To Resurrect Joe McCarthy

  Tallulah

  Joseph McCarthy may have been the wrong man, but he was in the right place at the right time and at least he stepped up. We need to step up now, with no delay. Listen to Anthony’s warning in this YouTube video: Anthony’s articles can be read on The…

  8/1/2010

• Fan The Fire w/ CJ & Tallulah ~ Project Gulf Impact, Doug Hagmann & Anthony G. Martin

  CJ in TX

  7/31/10 – 9:00 to 11:00 pm ET, then 11:00pm to 1:00am ET Call-in (347) 215-6929 Listen Live or Archived: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/patriotsheartnetwork Project Gulf Impact We will be speaking with Matt Smith, a Representative of Project Gulf Impact. Project Gulf Impact is reporting in a press release, “area residents have begun…

  7/31/2010

• National Ocean Council & Executive Order 13547; Obama’s Latest Assault on Liberty is Severe

  Henry Lamb

  President Obama’s Executive Order 13547, issued July 19, further extends federal power, embraces global governance, diminishes the rights and privileges of individuals and brings the United States into compliance with Agenda 21, Chapter 17.6, which says: Each coastal State should consider establishing, or where necessary strengthening, appropriate coordinating mechanisms…

  7/31/2010

• More on USCIS Memo & Blanket Amnesty to Illegals

  Admin

  This follows up the initial GulagBound, article, by NumbersUSA, “USCIS Memo Details Administration’s Plan to Provide Mass Amnesty Through Administrative Actions.” That article described a leaked Obama administration memo which discussed tactics of granting amnesty to large numbers of illegal aliens, by executive order. See the following In FoxNews.com:…

  7/31/2010

• Leftist ‘Historian’ Howard Zinn Lied About Red Ties

  Cliff Kincaid

  The prominent “progressive” historian Howard Zinn, whose books are force-fed to young people on many college campuses, was not only a member of the Moscow-controlled and Soviet-funded Communist Party USA (CPUSA) but lied about it, according to an FBI file released on Friday. The file, consisting of three sections…

  7/31/2010

• Law of the Sea Treaty to be Forced by Obama Executive Order & CLEAR Bill, Reports MORPHcity

  Admin

  Confirmed? Update: Yes, the Executive Order happened — and Cassandra Anderson’s research appears exquisite. If you have further information, please comment. This article by Cassandra Anderson in MORPHcity begins as follows: National Ocean Council By Cassandra Anderson July 28, 2010 Thirty states will be encroached upon by Obama’s Executive Order…

  7/31/2010

Announcement on Fan the Fire, Tonight

I'll have something to discuss with you tonight -- something I've been working on with James Simpson, Hanen, Tallulah, Jenn of Fort Hard Knox, Jean of We the People USA, and others.


See this, from Fan the Fire.

Saturday, July 3rd, 2010
Show Times: 9:00 to 11:00pm and 11:00pm to 1:00am ET
Call-in Number: (347) 215-6929
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/patriotsheartnetwork

BIG SHOW LINEUP TONIGHT!

Vanessa Needs Her Mommy

Stacey Doss says other website, OperationVanessa, “I have been put on this Earth for one reason. To love my daughter Vanessa. I adopted her two years ago, at birth. In that time, I’ve watched her bloom into a happy, healthy, intelligent child. I am her mother. She is my child. The bond is unmistakable. Irreversible. Unbreakable.”

Until now.

Tune in and hear what is happening to tear this family apart. People across the county are banding together to keep this family together. Tune in and find out what they are doing and what you can do too.

I Am America

We will speak with the talented Krista Branch and her husband Pastor Mike Branch about their new viral video, “I am America,” an inspiring and timely patriotic song preformed by Krista and written by Mike.

They just had a personal visit with Glenn Beck and we hope to hear all about that too. Follow them on twitter http://twitter.com/tweetsczar and http://twitter.com/kristabranch

Gulag Bound

Are you Gulag Bound? Arlen Williams and Jean of We the People USA will join us in discussing the unveiling of a special, collaborative, and continuously updated Web magazine for uncompromising Americans looking for and willing to speak out about the facts that the Washington politicians and mainstream/Marxstream media hide.

It will feature articles by important researchers such as Trevor Loudon, James Simpson, Jack Cashill, Joan Swirsky, Jean of We the People USA, Sher Zieve, and — Us! It is also a place where researchers can go to share what they know and connect the dots. I AM GULAG BOUND. ARE YOU? (#IMGB hashtag on Twitter) http://twitter.com/GulagBound

Oil Spill

The Oil Spill will also be a big topic of discussion. Patriots are meeting to organize and take action, something the current occupant of the White House seems unwilling to do. Find out what they are planning.

Call in and talk to us! We want to hear from you.
Call-in Number: (347) 215-6929

James Simpson on Fan the Fire w/ CJ & Tallulah, Tonight

Fan The Fire with CJ & Tallulah - Saturday 5/29/2010, 9-11pm ET

James Simpson, Special Guest

Listen online: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/patriotsheartnetwork

Call In Number: 347-215-6929

Fan the Fire's announcement: This week we are very pleased to welcome James Simpson. James writes as the DC Independent Examiner. Tonight we’ll be discussing his most recent article, Rand Paul’s unintentional warning to conservatives and tea partiers. As the mid-term elections approach, you won’t want to miss his insight of the lessons learned. As circumstances permit, we may also welcome another surprise guest or two. If you have questions or comments for James, call in! We want to hear from you!

Bio: James M. Simpson

James Simpson's Chat with Mark Levin & His Cloward-Piven Articles Indexed for You

I.O. continues to implore you, o reader, to ask The Three SOVEREIGNTY NOW Questions, of your candidates and sitting politicians. And please pass them on to your favorite organization for electoral activism, so they can do the same.

Then, perhaps you would like to send seven more questions to your "conservative," or "moderate" elected officials in Congress and in your State House -- make it an even ten questions, total:

1. Cloward-Piven, do you get it? 2. Cloward-Piven, do you get it? 3. Cloward-Piven, do you get it?
4. Do you get it? 5. Do you get it? 6. Cloward-Piven? 7. Eh?

Our compatriot and Frances Fox Piven's biggest fan, James Simpson was blessed with four minutes on the Mark Levin Show, a few days ago. That was Monday, 5/17. You can monitor it, if you click here and then move the slider over to 96 minutes.

As noted to Trevor Loudon on the last "Awakening," it is good, but rare, frankly, to see our bigger conservative media giving credit to our leading exposers of the conspiracy fact playing out in the Marxofascist war on/in America. After all, heroes get commendations at such a time, war time, even as others get wealthier from their work, bless their hearts, knowwhatImean?

Jim Simpson also put together an index of his Cloward-Piven articles on his DC Independent Examiner site, especially for Levin listeners clicking in. But it's for you, too; just click and see. And now, there is an excellent page to point out, when you put Cloward-Piven in the face of your crack state and national representatives and senators, also compatriots, family, friends, ex-friends, those who might be worth having as friends if they had a clue, etc.

See how it's done? All that is left now is the doing -- and the replacement of politicians who fail to heed the trumpet call to duty. - AW

PS: In case you didn't see it and want to, Sarah Palin's latest big speech, is presented and reviewed in light of these drastically important Cloward-Piven and American Sovereignty issues. Do you agree with its sentiments?

Thank you very much, Jim. Thank you very much, Trevor.

James Simpson: Questioning Conspiracy

An excerpt from Jim Simpson's latest article, the excellent remainder found at its DC Independent Examiner page:

Questioning Conspiracy

Cloward and Piven were not merely two lone sociology professors conspiring on teacher salaries to bring down America. They were prominent socialists and lifelong members of Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), the largest and oldest worldwide socialist organization. Therein lay their strength, both in recruitment and resources. The leftist Institute for Policy Studies (IPS) held seminars for activists on how to use the CPS. Cloward and Piven’s Nation article was reprinted a record 30,000 times.

These folks were not alone. And they only added to the plethora of anti-American strategies being used, building on the already utilized Alinsky method. Also, we have been infiltrated since the 1930s by the KGB and their sister agencies in other communist countries whose goal has not merely been to obtain military secrets, but much more to create a subversive infrastructure in this country. The IPS, mentioned above, is largely a KGB front. All of its principals are American communists, who, by definition, work for the communist international, still run by the KGB despite the alleged "fall" of communism.

All these groups, the think tanks, the DSA, ACORN, ACLU, the National Lawyers Guild, the Communist Party and all their offshoots are led by people who know each other, have worked in the "movement" for years, and share the same goals, often trading places in the various organizations. It is well organized, powerful, and even deadly when necessary. Connections to foreign intelligence agencies like the KGB are well hidden, but very likely much closer than even a lot of people in the movement realize (those, like many prominent Democrats, are the useful idiots).

Finally, it doesn't take much for a conspiracy to work when you give participants a vested interest. That was an overtly stated component of the CPS. Cloward and Piven said:

First, this plan promises immediate economic benefits. This is a point of some importance because, whereas America's poor have not been moved in any number by radical political ideologies, they have sometimes been moved by their economic interests.

continued...

James Simpson: Cloward-Piven Government

"It is high time we overcome the denial...."

Excerpt 1, from Jim Simpson's article today, in DC Independent Examiner; I fervently suggest clicking through and reading the entire piece:

Cloward-Piven Government

In September of last year, American Thinker published Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis. Part of a series, it connected then presidential candidate Barack Obama to individuals and organizations practicing a malevolent strategy for sabotaging our society. Since then the story of that strategy has found its way across the blogosphere, onto the airwaves of radio stations across the country, the Glenn Beck television show, Bill O’Reilly and now Mark Levin.

Excerpt 2:

The real goal of “healthcare” legislation, the real goal of “cap and trade,” the real goal of “stimulus” is to rip the guts out of our private economy and transfer wide swaths of it over to government control. Do not be deluded by the propaganda. These initiatives are vehicles for change. They are not goals in and of themselves, except in their ability to deliver power, and will make matters much worse, for that is their design.

Excerpt 3:

It is time to acknowledge that these people are our enemies. They don’t use guns, yet, but they are just as dangerous, determined and duplicitous as the communists we faced in the Cold War, Korea, Vietnam and bush wars across the globe, and the Nazis we faced in World War II. It is high time we overcome the denial, and fully digest and internalize this fact, with all its ugly ramifications.

Excerpt 4:

Every single citizen who cares about this country should be spending every minute of his/her spare time lobbying, organizing, writing and planning. Fight every initiative they launch. It is all destructive. If we are to root out this evil, it is critical that in 2010 we win competent, principled leaders willing to defend our constitution and our country. Otherwise the malevolent cabal that occupies the seat of government today will become too entrenched.

Tonight on "The Awakening" at 9pm ET, 6pm PT, we will examine our opportunities for activism, especially electoral activism, and some of the prominent organizations at work. You may listen at this Sentinel Radio location.

Lord Monckton Live on Net-Radio, Thursday 10/22, Noon ET, Host: Wiley Drake, Panel Includes Guests & Host of "The Awakening"

Lord Christopher Monckton, the former science advisor to Margaret Thatcher who, one week ago, blew the cover off the conspiratorial, globalist sovereignty grab of the proposed "Climate Change Treaty," will be interviewed by Wiley Drake, Thursday, 10/22 at Noon, ET. If Barack Obama signs that treaty this December, the abrogation of our national sovereignty to a foreign governing body of the U.N. would be an act of national sabotage and civil war, by an anti-American, American regime. We must stop it, by applying all the constitutional, non-violent power, that We, the People hold.

The program will be net-cast on Crusade Radio and is available for pick-up, live or otherwise, by other media. Link to the site of this net-cast:

www.crusaderadio.com

Lord Monckton will be the principle speaker for at least thirty minutes and the program will open to invited panelists. Regular listeners to "The Awakening" will be familiar with five invitees: Walter S. Hudson, James Simpson, Markham Robinson, Allan Erickson, and myself. All indicate their attendance.

Walter Hudson is the man who broke the Lord Monckton story last week on his blog, Fightin' Words and he has since done further key research and reporting (check for the latest). James Simpson featured this burgeoning national crisis shortly thereafter, in his examiner.com story, "Obama to Surrender US Sovereignty at UN Global Warming Conference." Allan Erickson has also covered this story and has expanded upon it with his new post, "The Case of Dr. Richard Lindzen," (MIT climatologist).

This past Monday, Walter Hudson was our guest on "The Awakening," while the program also replayed an informative interview of Lord Monckton by Glenn Beck from earlier that afternoon.

Feel free to copy and send this announcement. See embedded links and Sentinel Radio widget in Investigating Obama:

http://investigatingobama.blogspot.com/2009/10/lord-monckton-on-crusade-radio-thursday.html

Below you may find this Monday's "Awakening," archived on Sentinel Radio:

Arlen Williams

Surrender of US Sovereignty at UN Global Warming Conference, Copenhagen, December - James Simpson Reports

This article begins below. See Simpson's entire article, with its very pertinent links, on its examiner.com page.

Obama to Surrender US Sovereignty at UN Global Warming Conference

Not content with his humiliation at Copenhagen, Denmark this past September, President Obama will be traveling there again in December to attend the UN COP15 Climate Change Conference. This agreement would commit the United States to punitive and expensive greenhouse gas regulations dictated by the United Nations without recourse.

COP stands for "Conference of the Parties" and the December Copenhagen conference will be the 15th under the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), hence COP15. According to their website, it will be one of the largest conferences ever held outside the New York or Geneva headquarters, with an anticipated attendance of over 10,000 people, including governmental representatives from 189 countries, industry groups, and other non-governmental organizations.

The theme of the December 7 - 18 conference is "Hope," so perhaps Mr. Obama will have more luck this time. Instead of soliciting the International Olympic Committee with trite clichés and no payoffs, he will be doing something much easier: selling out our country. After all, ceding power, relinquishing billions in U.S. tax dollars and destroying U.S. economic competitiveness is a pretty easy sell to the countries that will benefit, and he has had a lot of practice doing the same thing here at home. He will have a hard time screwing this one up.

The Hope site optimistically pronounces:

On 7 December, leaders from 192 countries gather for UN Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen and decide the fate of our planet...

Decide the fate of our planet... Do these people have any idea how mindlessly grandiose they sound? Of course not. They are out to save the planet, just like Nancy Pelosi! It is hard for a normal person to imagine making such proclamations without embarrassment. But this is today's political class.

This agreement will cede U.S. sovereignty permanently and irrevocably to the United Nations. So says British Lord Christopher Monckton at an event at Bethel University in St Paul, Minnesota this past Wednesday, October 14th.

Lord Monckton was former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher's science advisor. He has lectured and written extensively on the issue, including an in-depth scientific critique to the 50,000 member American Physical Society, a serious side-by-side comparison slap-down of Al Gore's global warming assertions, and a recent summary of the global warming issue. In introducing his topic at Bethel University, he states unequivocally:

...and I am going to show you the latest science, which now doesn’t leave the question unsettled any more, this is now settled science, it is now settled science that there is not a problem with our influence over the climate. The science is in, the truth is out, and the scare is over.

You can watch his entire 1 hour 35 minute presentation here - well worth the time if you can spare it. The slideshow he frequently points to in this presentation can be viewed along with the video, here. Lord Monckton presents a series of statistics, charts and studies showing not only convincing evidence that global warming is insignificant - if it exists at all - likely not manmade, and more importantly, that the global warming alarmists have repeatedly, blatantly, deliberately lied, suppressing the real story to promote the myth.

Despite his effective refutation of manmade global warming, his closing remarks about the Copenhagen treaty are chilling:

Link again, to: James Simpson's full article, including its links.

As related elsewhere in I.O., tonight, "The Awakening" will feature the man who witnessed, recorded, and broke the news about Lord Monckton's Bethel University presentation, Walter Scott Hudson.

Monday, 10/19/2009, 9-11pm ET,,, 6-8pm PT.

Listen via the widget, or Sentinel Radio's blogtalkradio site. There may or may not be time for questions.

What is Obama Up To? (Why, this speech to the schoolchildren?)

by James Simpson

Last night I read the draft of the speech Obama intends to deliver in a nationwide broadcast to our schoolchildren from Wakefield High School in Arlington, VA today, September 8, 2009. It is actually a good puff piece – a lot of stuff about personal responsibility, a lot of exhortations to be the best you can, fully develop your potential, etc., etc.

The speech starts by talking about how teachers, parents and government have a responsibility to provide a good education, however it turns on the following statement:

But at the end of the day, we can have the most dedicated teachers, the most supportive parents, and the best schools in the world – and none of it will matter unless all of you fulfill your responsibilities. Unless you show up to those schools; pay attention to those teachers; listen to your parents, grandparents and other adults; and put in the hard work it takes to succeed.

And that’s what I want to focus on today: the responsibility each of you has for your education. I want to start with the responsibility you have to yourself.

Well, that is new. Up until now the dialog has been all about how the government can solve every problem and take care of your every need. The only people talking about personal responsibility are those evil, tea-party attending, town hall disrupting, domestic-terrorist, astroturfing shills for the morally bankrupt Republican Party. Shame on them!

But what is the point? This speech could be given by any speaker at a commencement ceremony, or for that matter, a good guidance counselor offering advice to a troubled student. So why bother?

Without knowing any better, after reading the speech – and I am sure after he delivers it in that rich, baritone voice – it is understandable how one would come away wondering how anyone could think ill of this guy. The speech was about as down-to-earth as they come. He comes off as a good guy, speaks well, and articulates the concerns we all have for our children. He relates to the problems he had as a child, living in a single-parent household, feeling like he didn’t quite fit in, etc, but returns to the theme of personal responsibility, describing how he overcame his problems to become what he is today. The speech elicits sympathy and offers platitudes we can all agree with.

And that is the point.

Barack Obama has been taking a beating, at least in the New Media, for his seemingly deliberate irresponsibility; his duplicity, his mindboggling, careless spending, his eye-popping appointments of the most radical lunatics this country has produced in a generation, his smug, conceited “we-know-better-than-you” attitude, his in-your-face lavish lifestyle coming on the heels of strident demands that upper income groups “pay their fair share,” (as though they don’t already,) his attempt to ram wholesale, deadly changes to healthcare down our throats, his and his surrogates vicious and disingenuous smearing of legitimately concerned and frightened Americans as “astroturfers,” “liars,” “paid Republican operatives,” and so on, ad infinitum.

Yesterday one of his choice picks, Van Jones, was forced to resign due to revelations about his radical past and present, his association with the 9-11 Truthers (who believe 9-11 was a deliberate government plot,) his admission of being a communist, and the incredibly stupid remarks he has made in public. Of course it wasn’t his fault. It was just another "vicious smear campaign against me." What was that about personal responsibility, Obama?

But most young people know little, if any of all this. Thanks to the MSM news blackout, all they know is what they get from a fawning media and popular culture. Obama is the coolest thing since sliced bread. He’s got it all figured. Join his crowd and you’ll go far. You’ll be cool too, unlike those mean Republicans.

Obama plans to grow a new civilian army in the not-too-distant future. He already has the “Kennedy Serve America Act,” passed into law while we weren’t looking, to provide the guidance and funding authority. But you can’t inspire a lot of kids to follow you into the abyss if you are perceived as a jerk or a loser. You certainly can’t inspire the confidence of the parents of those kids if you look like some kind of subversive, and everywhere around you communists are popping out from under the bed.

Millenials (people born between 1982 and 2003) are Obama’s future. Young techies built his internet campaign into what it is today: the largest online radical community organization in the world. He needs these people now and will need them more in the future.

Obama is losing ground with older Americans. We are onto him and are getting sick of his silk-tongued slop. Tea party rallies, town hall protests, and plummeting poll numbers have proven this beyond doubt.

So now he’s turning the charm campaign on our innocent, trusting and unsuspecting children.

If he can seduce enough of them, he doesn’t have to care what we older Americans think. All we do is get in the way. With the help of his youthful army he can sweep us into the dustbin of history. And the only way to recruit them is to be cool, while keeping us off balance long enough to solidify his power. And then, Zimbabwe, look out! You haven’t seen nothin’ yet!

And that is what he is up to.

So, in the interest of maintaining this new theme of personal responsibility, I will ask President Obama some pointed questions that perhaps he may finally be inclined to lead by example, and answer – questions he has been dodging since he first announced his intention to run for office.

Mr. President, in your speech you say: “I was fortunate. I got a lot of second chances and had the opportunity to go to college, and law school, and follow my dreams.”

Great! We have all been wanting to know for quite a while now, who gave you those second chances, Mr. President? How was it that you were accepted at the prestigious Columbia University after two years at Occidental College where, by your own admission, you got poor grades and spent your time doing drugs and chasing women? Who paid for Columbia? What were your grades there? What classes did you take? What was your major? What did you DO exactly? We don’t even know where you lived!

If your Columbia grades were so good, why not share them with the world? If not, then how on earth did you get into Harvard? Who paid for that? Was it Khalid al Mansoor?

Tell us more about that sweetheart deal on your house in Hyde Park that Tony Rezko arranged. Was there a quid-pro-quo? I guess the contracts he received after your election as state senator were just a coincidence? What other favors did he do? What about Michelle’s $300,000 per year, no-show job at the University of Chicago Hospital? What about ACORN, Ayers and Dohrn? What about George Soros and his wealthy friends? What about bundling illegal campaign contributions from overseas and the phony domestic ones?

What about all that, Mr. President? How does that demonstrate responsibility??

You said “The story of America isn’t about people who quit when things got tough. It’s about people who kept going, who tried harder, who loved their country too much to do anything less than their best.”

Funny, I thought America was a country to be ashamed of. Oh that’s right, Michelle said that! And of course all that magically changed when you were elected, right? You say this is a country that takes more than its fair share of the world’s resources. Of course, we pay for those resources, and make the entire world a more prosperous place as a result. You say we are a country that needs to apologize for its bad behavior? Sir, the United States of America is the most generous nation on earth, perhaps in the history of man’s time on earth. Where have you been? Or maybe I should ask: who have you been talking to??

If you want children to take responsibility, you need to lead by example. Stop with the corruption. Stop the bait and switch. Stop lying. Stop with the rampant spending. Stop undermining our military and destroying our intelligence agencies. Stop mortgaging our future and wrecking the economy with your disastrous economic policies!

In short, quit trying to destroy this country Mr. President, and keep your hands off my children!

Alternate title:
The Two Faces of Barack
or,
Lessons to Marxist Saboteurs: If You Get Spotted, Seek Cover -- Use Children as Human Shields;
Worked for that Other Hussein, for Awhile

James Simpson is the author of last September's pivotally important article, "Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis." Jim is a former White House staff economist and budget analyst. His writings have been published in the Washington Times, FrontPage Magazine, Whistleblower Magazine, American Thinker, DefenseWatch, Soldier of Fortune, and others. His blog is Truth and Consequences.